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Theoretical Best Roster Using Evolving Hockey GAR

Created by: pretzelcoatl
Team: 2022-23 Custom Team
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 20, 2023
Published: Jan. 20, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Parameters: 20 man roster, no limit on ELCs
Does not factor in ice time
Numbers are this season only

Do not argue that substituting x player for y player would improve the team. Using EH's model, there is no better cap compliant team.
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
20$82,500,000$81,297,500$0$2,275,000$1,202,500
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
Pettersson, Elias
$7,350,000$7,350,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
Hughes, Jack
$8,000,000$8,000,000
C
UFA - 8
Logo of the Florida Panthers
Tkachuk, Matthew
$9,500,000$9,500,000
RW
UFA - 8
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
Kuzmenko, Andrei
$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Seattle Kraken
Beniers, Matthew
$897,500$897,500 (Performance Bonus$925,000$925K)
C
RFA - 2
Logo of the St. Louis Blues
Thomas, Robert
$2,800,000$2,800,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Boston Bruins
DeBrusk, Jake
$4,000,000$4,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Dallas Stars
Hintz, Roope
$3,150,000$3,150,000
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Vegas Golden Knights
Stone, Mark
$9,500,000$9,500,000
RW
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Florida Panthers
Luostarinen, Eetu
$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, C
UFA - 2
Logo of the Los Angeles Kings
Vilardi, Gabriel
$825,000$825,000
RW, C
RFA - 1
Logo of the Dallas Stars
Pavelski, Joe
$5,500,000$5,500,000 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
RW
NMC
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
Morrissey, Joshua
$6,250,000$6,250,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo of the Buffalo Sabres
Dahlin, Rasmus
$6,000,000$6,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the New York Islanders
Sorokin, Ilya
$4,000,000$4,000,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
Siegenthaler, Jonas
$1,125,000$1,125,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Seattle Kraken
Dunn, Vince
$4,000,000$4,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Edmonton Oilers
Skinner, Stuart
$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Washington Capitals
Gustafsson, Erik
$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
Hronek, Filip
$4,400,000$4,400,000
RD
RFA - 2

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Jan. 20, 2023 at 4:35 p.m.
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There are definitely better players you could have instead of Jake DeBrusk, Vince Dunn and Erik Gustafsson
Jan. 20, 2023 at 4:37 p.m.
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Quoting: CJets
There are definitely better players you could have instead of Jake DeBrusk, Vince Dunn and Erik Gustafsson


Not according to Evolving Hockey.

Edit: Obviously anyone with a brain would take Bratt over DeBrusk given that there's the cap space for it. However, their model says DeBrusk is the better player this year.
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Jan. 20, 2023 at 4:44 p.m.
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There are definitely better players you could have instead of Jake DeBrusk, Vince Dunn and Erik Gustafsson


You seem to have missed the purpose of this.
Jan. 20, 2023 at 4:46 p.m.
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Not gonna argue since you did the leg work but it is really surprising that Tage and Robertson aren't here. Especially with their combined cap hits being lower than Mark Stone.
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Jan. 20, 2023 at 4:47 p.m.
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shouldn't you have done a 23 man roster? The above isn't even possible
Jan. 20, 2023 at 4:47 p.m.
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Quoting: pretzelcoatl
Not according to Evolving Hockey.

Edit: Obviously anyone with a brain would take Bratt over DeBrusk given that there's the cap space for it. However, their model says DeBrusk is the better player this year.


Eh, I’m not sure you can say that. Bratt is a marginally better point producer, but Debrusk has been tearing it up this year, solidified himself as a legit top line winger, and has a two way game that bratt doesn’t. Also chips in on the penalty kill etc.

The one thing i think this team shows clearly is that GAR is a somewhat overrated stat, and really doesn’t show the full picture.
Jan. 20, 2023 at 4:48 p.m.
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Quoting: Ihopeigetit
shouldn't you have done a 23 man roster? The above isn't even possible


Here's 23:

Salary Cap: 82500000

Include Scratches: true
ELCs: 6, no limit
xGAR enabled: false

Andrei Kuzmenko
Gabriel Vilardi
Matty Beniers
Jack Quinn
Martin Necas
Robert Thomas
Zach Hyman
Jake Debrusk
Eetu Luostarinen
Joe Pavelski
Roope Hintz
Jared McCann
Nic Dowd
Jack Hughes

Erik Gustafsson
Erik Karlsson
Rasmus Dahlin
Jonas Siegenthaler
Filip Hronek
Josh Morrissey
Vince Dunn

Stuart Skinner
Ilya Sorokin
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Jan. 20, 2023 at 4:49 p.m.
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Not gonna argue since you did the leg work but it is really surprising that Tage and Robertson aren't here. Especially with their combined cap hits being lower than Mark Stone.


They're both on if you go by xGAR
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Jan. 20, 2023 at 4:51 p.m.
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Eh, I’m not sure you can say that. Bratt is a marginally better point producer, but Debrusk has been tearing it up this year, solidified himself as a legit top line winger, and has a two way game that bratt doesn’t. Also chips in on the penalty kill etc.

The one thing i think this team shows clearly is that GAR is a somewhat overrated stat, and really doesn’t show the full picture.


I mean fair enough on Bratt and DeBrusk, though there are other examples I could've used. Bratt actually has insane defensive metrics though.

On the second point, I somewhat agree. No stat is complete without context.
Jan. 20, 2023 at 4:52 p.m.
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Quoting: pretzelcoatl
I mean fair enough on Bratt and DeBrusk, though there are other examples I could've used. Bratt actually has insane defensive metrics though.

On the second point, I somewhat agree. No stat is complete without context.


But we should settle down on the metrics. Contrary to the belief of some, if you’re drawing conclusions from these statistics, they can lie to you. It’s not the end all be all.
Jan. 20, 2023 at 4:54 p.m.
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But we should settle down on the metrics. Contrary to the belief of some, if you’re drawing conclusions from these statistics, they can lie to you. It’s not the end all be all.


I am aware that they are not the end all be all. I literally just said context is needed. I think you should take my word as someone who has seen every game Bratt has played this year that he's a complete two way player.
Jan. 20, 2023 at 4:56 p.m.
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Quoting: pretzelcoatl
I am aware that they are not the end all be all. I literally just said context is needed. I think you should take my word as someone who has seen every game Bratt has played this year that he's a complete two way player.


Well, I’m not going to. Because i have no reason to like or dislike the devils, and I’ve watched him plenty. It’s not like he’s a liability, but a 200-foot game wouldn’t be in my top ten compliments for Bratt.
Jan. 20, 2023 at 5:14 p.m.
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There are definitely better players you could have instead of Jake DeBrusk, Vince Dunn and Erik Gustafsson


Vince Dunn has been elite this year.
Jan. 20, 2023 at 9:39 p.m.
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They're both on if you go by xGAR


I'd like to see that roster!
Jan. 20, 2023 at 9:42 p.m.
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I'd like to see that roster!


I posted it earlier, check my profile
 
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