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Fire everyone - trades with rationale given

Created by: joshelkin

Team: 2022-23 New York Islanders

Initial Creation Date: Jan. 23, 2023

Published: Jan. 23, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

We've known since the summer that Lou failed in a big way by not getting this team a legit scorer. In a span of a few months, Johnny Gaudreau, Kevin Fiala, Claude Giroux, Nazem Kadri, Max Pacioretty, David Perron, Ilya Mikheyev, and Andre Burakovsky all changed jerseys. Even if you didn't get the "sexiest" name, there were plenty of improvements we could have made. The Romanov trade hasn't looked great, especially when that pick could have been used on a guy like JT Miller, coupled with firing the third winningest coach in NHL history for no good reason, only to be replaced by his underling clearly over his head (and Lou's company man/lap dog). This team needs to begin a retool with different men in charge.

GM: Kevin Weekes
HC: Bruce Boudreau

The below trades set the Isles up for replenishing the prospect pool and could also use the picks in other trades to more immediately improve the roster. I don't want to trade Sorokin (yet). He is a franchise goalie and I want to see if he extends this summer first. If we retool fast enough, we will need him to have any chance at success. If he won't sign an extension in the summer, then trade him to a team like LA for a haul.

#TankforBedard

Trades

NYI

Firkus, Jagger [Reserve List]
2023 1st round pick (SEA)
2023 2nd round pick (SEA)

Additional Details:

Isles get a decent wing prospect who is a few years from making an impact and a pair of draft picks in a deep draft.

SEA

Nelson, Brock

Additional Details:

If SEA falls short in landing Horvat, Brock Nelson would be a great consolation prize. He is signed for another two seasons at a bargain $6m

NYI

Foegele, Warren
2023 1st round pick (EDM)
2024 2nd round pick (EDM)

Additional Details:

Using the Savard/Chiarot deals as a benchmark. Mayfield is better and cheaper than both. Isles take back Foegele to increase the return.

EDM

Mayfield, Scott ($725,000 retained)

Additional Details:

EDM needs to make the playoffs and add some size to their roster. Taking Foegele off their hands allows for another move if they want.

NYI

Comrie, Eric
2023 2nd round pick (PHI)
2024 2nd round pick (BUF)

Additional Details:

Isles secure more picks and get their backup for 2023-24

BUF

Varlamov, Semyon ($2,500,000 retained)

Additional Details:

I've seen this trade idea floated around a bit recently. I'm not sure Varly waives his NTC for Buffalo, so if not imagine a similar return from New Jersey instead. Sabres need an upgrade in goal for their playoff push. Varly could end his career in Buffalo if he is open to it. I can see them signing him to a 1-2 year extension

NYI

Smith, Craig
2023 3rd round pick (BOS)
2024 3rd round pick (BOS)

Additional Details:

Isles maximize value by taking back Craig Smith's salary. BOS already tried waiving him once. This opens up the room for another move or possibly fitting some/all of Bergeron/Krejci 35+ bonuses on this year's cap

BOS

Parise, Zach

Additional Details:

Having a fantastic season and deserves a chance at a Cup. Parise would fit in really well in Boston

Buyouts

Rick DiPietro: $0

Retained Salary Transactions

Scott Mayfield: $725,000 (50%)
Semyon Varlamov: $2,500,000 (50%)

Buried

Richard Pánik: $250,000 ($1,375,000)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$82,500,000	$79,532,463	$245,796	$652,500	$2,967,537

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Lee, Anders $7,000,000$7,000,000 LW NTC UFA - 4	Barzal, Mathew $7,000,000$7,000,000 C, RW UFA - 1	Fasching, Hudson $750,000$750,000 RW UFA - 1
Beauvillier, Anthony $4,150,000$4,150,000 RW, LW UFA - 2	Pageau, Jean-Gabriel $5,000,000$5,000,000 C M-NTC UFA - 4	Palmieri, Kyle $5,000,000$5,000,000 RW, LW NTC UFA - 3
Bailey, Josh $5,000,000$5,000,000 RW, LW, C UFA - 2	Räty, Aatu $836,667$836,667 ($82,500$82K) C RFA - 3	Smith, Craig $3,100,000$3,100,000 RW UFA - 1
Foegele, Warren $2,750,000$2,750,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Cizikas, Casey $2,500,000$2,500,000 C UFA - 5	Holmström, Simon $863,333$863,333 RW RFA - 2

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Pelech, Adam $5,750,000$5,750,000 LD NTC UFA - 7	Pulock, Ryan $6,150,000$6,150,000 RD NTC UFA - 8
Romanov, Alexander $2,500,000$2,500,000 LD RFA - 3	Dobson, Noah $4,000,000$4,000,000 RD RFA - 3	Sorokin, Ilya $4,000,000$4,000,000 G UFA - 2
Bolduc, Samuel $842,500$842,500 ($32,500$32K) LD RFA - 1	Aho, Sebastian $825,000$825,000 LD UFA - 2	Comrie, Eric $1,800,000$1,800,000 G UFA - 2

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Wotherspoon, Parker $750,000$750,000 LD UFA - 1	Clutterbuck, Cal $1,750,000$1,750,000 RW UFA - 2
Martin, Matt $1,500,000$1,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Wahlstrom, Oliver $894,167$894,167 ($537,500$538K) RW RFA - 1
Johnston, Ross $1,100,000$1,100,000 LW UFA - 4

Jan. 23, 2023 at 9:38 p.m.

bagelbob

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my interest in weekes as GM is zero. hire someone like tulsky with real experience.

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Jan. 23, 2023 at 9:40 p.m.

Finn2016

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Buffalo can wait till july and not pay anything. Would like mayfield though

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Jan. 23, 2023 at 9:47 p.m.

joshelkin

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Quoting: bagelbob

my interest in weekes as GM is zero. hire someone like tulsky with real experience.

I think there is an advantage with Weekes being so tapped in with the other teams around the league. Plus he would be good with the players. I definitely would support Weekes by surrounding him with an experienced front office. I want someone more innovative than the dinosaur we have now

Jan. 23, 2023 at 9:48 p.m.

Newgod77

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Bruins have enough bonus overages. Don’t need Parise’s

Jan. 23, 2023 at 9:49 p.m.

joshelkin

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Islanders Fan

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Quoting: Finn2016

Buffalo can wait till july and not pay anything. Would like mayfield though

You could wait until July but you won't get a goalie now to help with the playoff push. I think the Sabres are a fun team and that locker room deserves a vote of confidence from the front office. I'm not sure Varly would waive his NTC to go there as I said in the description. I think NJD is a more likely destination.

Mayfield would cost a 1st or a quality prospect. If BUF wants to pay that, step right up lol

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Jan. 23, 2023 at 9:52 p.m.

joshelkin

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Islanders Fan

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Quoting: Newgod77

Bruins have enough bonus overages. Don’t need Parise’s

I think taking back Smith helps go a long way with that (for of Boston's overages). This is genuinely the Bruins year. They should be doing everything possible for one more cup with this group

Jan. 23, 2023 at 10:01 p.m.

DefenseFirst

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Done deal from Boston. Where do they sign?

Jan. 23, 2023 at 10:03 p.m.

DefenseFirst

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Quoting: Newgod77

Bruins have enough bonus overages. Don’t need Parise’s

Doesn’t that bonus go on the isles cap, as they were all hit with the islanders?

Jan. 23, 2023 at 10:04 p.m.

Newgod77

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Quoting: joshelkin

I think taking back Smith helps go a long way with that (for of Boston's overages). This is genuinely the Bruins year. They should be doing everything possible for one more cup with this group

Boston wouldn’t have enough accrued cap space if this is at deadline so it would add to next year. Bruins aren’t accumulating space currently with Debrusk on LTIR

Jan. 23, 2023 at 10:04 p.m.

#10

Db1899

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Quoting: joshelkin

weekes seems like a great guy but the way he talks about the game he is very old schooled - isles need a more modern GM who understands how to draft and develop players

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Jan. 23, 2023 at 10:08 p.m.

#11

Newgod77

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Quoting: DefenseFirst

Doesn’t that bonus go on the isles cap, as they were all hit with the islanders?

From what I understand the bonuses would go to team he finished season with. I remember Bob McKenzie mentioning this a couple years ago. Not sure if it’s still the case since they change CBA constantly and the revised the +35 contracts recently. I’ll see what I can find on it.

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Jan. 23, 2023 at 10:09 p.m.

#12

DefenseFirst

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Quoting: Newgod77

Please do. Logic would tell me if they hit the bonuses with one team, it would be on their cap. We all know the CBA doesn’t always follow logic though

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Jan. 23, 2023 at 10:45 p.m.

#13

Newgod77

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Quoting: DefenseFirst

Please do. Logic would tell me if they hit the bonuses with one team, it would be on their cap. We all know the CBA doesn’t always follow logic though

So I didn’t find anything definitive looking at CBA except bonuses are paid as achieved. However, if you do an armchair GM here it shows Boston with 4650000 in bonuses. If you trade for Parise it increases to 5400000. Plus 750000 which would be Parise’s full bonus. Not sure if that’s an accurate representation or not.

Jan. 23, 2023 at 11:02 p.m.

#14

nhldeadline2

Joined: May 2018

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Quoting: joshelkin

You could wait until July but you won't get a goalie now to help with the playoff push. I think the Sabres are a fun team and that locker room deserves a vote of confidence from the front office.

THIS! I wouldn't necessarily add a goalie, but IMO this is where we're missing the mark as Sabres fans.

We should invest in the young core. I think some of us Sabres fans are traumatized by the tank > transition > support Eichel era

Jan. 24, 2023 at 1:09 a.m.

#15

homiedaclown

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Quoting: joshelkin

Lol…. you want TWO 2nd round picks for a RENTAL goalie?!
Gtfoh 🤣🤣🤣
Zero chance that happens- ABSOLUTELY NONE

BTW,
The Sabres have a young goalie breaking into the league who is playing well for us- UPL is 12-5-1
U may look at his save% & think he hasn’t been all that good for us, but that’s due to (mostly) a bad start & a couple random bad games
We might not even be willing to pay ONE 2nd for Varlamov,
let alone 2- which is just plain laughable

Jan. 24, 2023 at 4:41 a.m.

#16

filipcesnak9

Joined: Jul. 2019

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Quoting: Db1899

weekes seems like a great guy but the way he talks about the game he is very old schooled - isles need a more modern GM who understands how to draft and develop players

what are some other options that are available for the GM spot?

Jan. 24, 2023 at 5:18 a.m.

#17

AndrewPawlack

18 lotteries, 0 wins

Joined: Oct. 2017

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i forget that Islanders players actually score goals so for Brock to be worth that and it's fair

Jan. 24, 2023 at 6:01 a.m.

#18

worldwidesensei

Joined: Feb. 2018

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Quoting: joshelkin

UPL is 11-3-0 in his last 14 starts and Anderson is 10th in the league in sv%.

BUF doesn't need a goalie.

Jan. 24, 2023 at 6:59 a.m.

#19

Islesforthecup

Joined: Nov. 2020

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Quoting: Buffalove

Kk np give a 1st then like the older worse more expensive MAF got at last years deadline.

Jan. 24, 2023 at 8:10 a.m.

#20

homiedaclown

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Quoting: Islesforthecup

Kk np give a 1st then like the older worse more expensive MAF got at last years deadline.

Lol, no thanks
Zero percent chance of that happening as well
Sorry u guys are a mess, but the Sabres aren’t gonna overpay for a RENTAL goalie
Try some other suckers

Jan. 24, 2023 at 8:26 a.m.

#21

tm0000

Joined: Jul. 2018

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Quoting: joshelkin

The last time they hired a goalie with no front office experience as a GM it worked out great.

Jan. 24, 2023 at 10:20 a.m.

#22

Islesforthecup

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Quoting: Buffalove

Lol, no thanks
Zero percent chance of that happening as well
Sorry u guys are a mess, but the Sabres aren’t gonna overpay for a RENTAL goalie
Try some other suckers

All I’m saying is be a little realistic here. Not saying the sabres should be buying rentals but markets are established and teams aren’t selling low to you just bc you aren’t ready to compete for a championship

Jan. 24, 2023 at 10:31 a.m.

#23

homiedaclown

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Quoting: Islesforthecup

I’m not proposing the Isles should sell low
I also don’t think Varlamov will go for two 2nds
And i also don’t think we’d be interested even if he was cheaper

Jan. 24, 2023 at 10:41 a.m.

#24

bagelbob

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Quoting: filipcesnak9

what are some other options that are available for the GM spot?

i've been saying eric tulsky is the guy

Jan. 24, 2023 at 10:49 a.m.

#25

Finn2016

Joined: Dec. 2022

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Quoting: joshelkin

We’ve waited years for playoffs. What’s another year if we’re that much better off by not paying deadline super premiums. Certainly not our calls but hope Adams sticks to this

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