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2022-23 NHL Season Discussion Thread #9: Bruce, There it Goes

Feb. 9, 2023 at 2:34 p.m.
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Feb. 9, 2023 at 2:34 p.m.
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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
Seems like a huge haul for Tarasenko, no? In a supposed dead cap era.


Not really. It’s just quantity
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Feb. 9, 2023 at 2:38 p.m.
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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
Seems like a huge haul for Tarasenko, no? In a supposed dead cap era.


Not really. It's just a low first and some fluff. Plus they lost Mikkola.

Arguably Toronto paid more for Nick f*cking Foligno than Rags did for Tarasenko.
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Feb. 9, 2023 at 2:39 p.m.
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The leafs and first round exits

The Coyotes and low attendance

The flames and trading away future hall of famers for a half eaten bag of popcorn

The penguins and refusing to rebuild

The Blackhawks and trading talented young players because of the salary cap

The capitals and choking

The Montreal Canadians and history

The Seattle Kraken and s*itty goaltending


Caps having choked in years thank you!
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Feb. 9, 2023 at 2:43 p.m.
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Quoting: KSIxSKULLS
One of the few Anti-Canada teams get another non Canadian player. Makes me hate them even more.


Who are “anti-Canada” teams?
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Feb. 9, 2023 at 2:59 p.m.
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Quoting: justaBoss
Not really. It's just a low first and some fluff. Plus they lost Mikkola.

Arguably Toronto paid more for Nick f*cking Foligno than Rags did for Tarasenko.


We paid a 1st and 4th for him and another 4th for more retention and got Noesen. Rangers paid 1st + 4th + Kravstov so don't know where u got that idea lul as we didn't give up a prospect who was taken 9th OA
Feb. 9, 2023 at 3:01 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
We paid a 1st and 4th. Rangers paid 1st + 4th + Kravstov so don't know where u got that idea lul as we didn't give up a prospect who was taken 9th OA


Kravtsov is not included in the trade...
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Feb. 9, 2023 at 3:02 p.m.
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Quoting: justaBoss
Kravtsov is not included in the trade...


He was taken out well still Rangers threw in stuff we didn't lul

And Rangers 1st will probs be higher thann Toronto's based on Standings as unless there pick is lower than 25(doubt) they paid more

Probs Blais is for Mikolla
Feb. 9, 2023 at 3:05 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
He was taken out well still Rangers threw in stuff we didn't lul

As giving up Hunter meant they paid more

Probs Blais is for Mikolla


Blais for Mikkola is a wash. That leaves 1st, 4th and Skinner. Skinner is a ECHL player, worth nothing. Leafs paid 1st+4th+another 4th to double retain Foligno with SJ and got Noesen who played a grand total of one game for the Leafs.

Yes, I think Leafs ended up paying more for Foligno than Rags paid for Tarasenko.
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Feb. 9, 2023 at 3:10 p.m.
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Quoting: justaBoss
Blais for Mikkola is a wash. That leaves 1st, 4th and Skinner. Skinner is a ECHL player, worth nothing. Leafs paid 1st+4th+another 4th to double retain with SJ and got Noesen who played a grand total of one game for the Leafs.

Yes, I think Leafs ended up paying more for Foligno than Rags paid for Tarasenko.


Nope

As if u go into details we gave the 25th OA pick and a 4th. Other 4tg let's be honest was for Noesen and some ret.wish we could have kept him as man Noesen be doing well in Carolina . Rangers gave up the either the 23 OA or 25 OA and a 4th. So it's basically the same but under the circumstances with no COVID and Seattle coming teams were willing to pay more back then. So unless Rangers win the cup picks gonna be around the same

Either way good trade for them but if we were still in COVID times and had an expansion draft coming got a feeling it would cost more

Also watch Blais start playing well with his old team lul as that just seems to be the way now
Feb. 9, 2023 at 3:11 p.m.
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Quoting: justaBoss
Blais for Mikkola is a wash. That leaves 1st, 4th and Skinner. Skinner is a ECHL player, worth nothing. Leafs paid 1st+4th+another 4th to double retain Foligno with SJ and got Noesen who played a grand total of one game for the Leafs.

Yes, I think Leafs ended up paying more for Foligno than Rags paid for Tarasenko.


Imo its about the same but Leafs overpaid, whereas NYR didnt
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Feb. 9, 2023 at 3:14 p.m.
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Quoting: ARMCHAIRGMOFTHEYEAR
Imo its about the same but Leafs overpaid, whereas NYR didnt


I situate it on circumstances as man I wish we didn't have a pandemic and expansion draft that year but hey we need new teams

With no pandemic and expansion teams prices now are normalized

Anyways wonder whose next
Feb. 9, 2023 at 3:14 p.m.
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Quoting: justaBoss
Blais for Mikkola is a wash. That leaves 1st, 4th and Skinner. Skinner is a ECHL player, worth nothing. Leafs paid 1st+4th+another 4th to double retain Foligno with SJ and got Noesen who played a grand total of one game for the Leafs.

Yes, I think Leafs ended up paying more for Foligno than Rags paid for Tarasenko.


It's a 3rd, same price as Chairot
Feb. 9, 2023 at 3:16 p.m.
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Holy sh*t what did I miss?
Feb. 9, 2023 at 3:17 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
Nope

As if u go into details we gave the 25th OA pick and a 4th. Rangers gave up the either the 23 OA or 25 OA and a 4th. So it's basically the same but under the circumstances with no COVID and Seattle coming teams were willing to pay more back then. So unless Rangers win the cup picks gonna be around the same

Either way good trade for them but if we were still in COVID times and had an expansion draft coming got a feeling it would cost more

Also watch Blais start playing well with his old team lul as that just seems to be the way now


Tbf every playoff team trading a first for a rental will do it assuming that the pick will be as low as possible, since they're aiming for the cup. We know the pick ended up being 25th, but during the day the trade went through they did not, similar to how we don't know what will these picks be that got dealt now.
Feb. 9, 2023 at 3:17 p.m.
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Holy sh*t what did I miss?


Dude you always miss everything tears of joy
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Feb. 9, 2023 at 3:18 p.m.
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Quoting: BuFfaLOFaN
It's a 3rd, same price as Chairot


Even worse...
Feb. 9, 2023 at 3:18 p.m.
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If Meier doesn’t get back Holtz + 2023 1st + Casey/Walsh/Mukh I’m gonna be pissed. Especially if Meier comes extended. That won’t bode well for wingers in the league including Debrincat and others .
Feb. 9, 2023 at 3:22 p.m.
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If Meier doesn’t get back Holtz + 2023 1st + Casey/Walsh/Mukh I’m gonna be pissed. Especially if Meier comes extended. That won’t bode well for wingers in the league including Debrincat and others .


Tbf we already caught a bit of a taste of the value of such asset when DeBrincat was dealt first time during last year's draft.

He hasn't had that good of a season that his value would be dramatically increasing now, should OTT be trading him in the offseason.
Feb. 9, 2023 at 3:25 p.m.
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Quoting: justaBoss
Tbf we already caught a bit of a taste of the value of such asset when DeBrincat was dealt first time during last year's draft.

He hasn't had that good of a season that his value would be dramatically increasing now, should OTT be trading him in the offseason.


Not dramatically increasing . But if ottawa ever moved him, it should be a hockey trade, not a 1st round pick and a B prospect. Get back a top 4RD in return
Feb. 9, 2023 at 3:41 p.m.
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Quoting: justaBoss
Tbf every playoff team trading a first for a rental will do it assuming that the pick will be as low as possible, since they're aiming for the cup. We know the pick ended up being 25th, but during the day the trade went through they did not, similar to how we don't know what will these picks be that got dealt now.


In general I will admit we paid more than we should of based on the results. If Foligno was healthy and we won a round or so I wouldnt of cared but **** happens

Either way it was a lesson in trades as the following year we paid less for Gio than what we saw Florida pay for Chiarot
Feb. 9, 2023 at 3:42 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
In general I will admit we paid more than we should of based on the results. If Foligno was healthy and we won a few rounds I wouldnt of cared but **** happens

Either way it was a lesson in trades as the following year we paid less for Gio than what we saw Florida pay for Chiarot


First mistake was assuming they'd have success in the playoff's

PS: I say this an I like Toronto's chances this year lmao
Feb. 9, 2023 at 3:43 p.m.
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Quoting: EsoYeezus69
Holy sh*t what did I miss?


Bourque, Stankoven and a 1st for Patrick Kane
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Feb. 9, 2023 at 3:43 p.m.
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Quoting: ARMCHAIRGMOFTHEYEAR
First mistake was assuming they'd have success in the playoff's

PS: I say this an I like Toronto's chances this year lmao


In general JT going down game 1 to the most WTF bruh moment in NHL history didnt get things started well
Feb. 9, 2023 at 3:51 p.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
I situate it on circumstances as man I wish we didn't have a pandemic and expansion draft that year but hey we need new teams

With no pandemic and expansion teams prices now are normalized

Anyways wonder whose next


Let’s not kid ourselves here, the leafs way overpaid for Foligno. Rangers payed a similar amount to get Tarasenko who is much better than Foligno. Good deal for them
 
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