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Jets Cup Run

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Team: 2022-23 Winnipeg Jets
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 25, 2023
Published: Jan. 25, 2023
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This isn't necessarily what I think the Jets SHOULD do, its what I think Chevy WILL do.

Toews: I'm not buying Friedman's report on a 2nd or 3rd, I think it'll cost a 1st and a B or C level prospect. Its possible if they want to keep that 1st they move Heinola and a 3rd. Either way, this is exactly what the Jets need regardless if he's from Wpg. Although not what he once was he is still a player who can slide up and down the lineup and play any role required. Depending on matchups I suspect he'd be on a 3rd line with Lowry, but also possible Jets go 4 centers deep at times. I also think Perfetti might be in the pressbox some nights and maybe we see Toews slide up into the 2nd line.

Kulikov: Minimal left over cap space wont allow Wpg to add a better piece on D, Kulikov would be the next man up if Samberg is in over his head in the playoffs. Possible Heiniola is moved, but if he here I dont believe they trust him enough for the playoffs. Chevy time and time again has brought back guys he's familiar with and who were popular in the room. Harkins, a C level prospect, or a very late round pick should be the return.

I have a feeling Appleton might be the odd man out unless he can get some games under his belt before the playoffs. Several wingers who might even be scratches can provide what he was bringing to the table before his injury.
Trades
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WPG
  1. Toews, Jonathan ($5,250,000 retained)
CHI
  1. Rashevsky, Dmitri [Reserve List]
  2. 2023 1st round pick (WPG)
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WPG
  1. Kulikov, Dmitry ($1,000,000 retained)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
25$82,500,000$82,428,691$0$2,050,000$71,309

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,142,857$7,142,857
LW
UFA - 4
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$6,125,000$6,125,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$8,250,000$8,250,000
RW
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UFA - 2
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, C
RFA - 2
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
C
UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$6,250,000$6,250,000
LD
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UFA - 6
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
RD
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UFA - 2
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$6,166,667$6,166,667
G
UFA - 2
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$5,875,000$5,875,000
RD
UFA - 3
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$900,000$900,000
G
UFA - 1
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$3,900,000$3,900,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$5,950,000$5,950,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$350,000$350K)
LD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$775,000$775,000
LW, C
RFA - 2
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$2,166,667$2,166,667
RW
UFA - 3
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$825,000$825,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
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$125,000$125,000
LD/RD
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UFA - 1
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$900,000$900,000
LD
RFA - 1

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Jan. 25, 2023 at 10:01 a.m.
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Hawks accept. It's nice to see someone realize that even Friedman could be wrong. But why would you put the best faceoff guy in the league on the wing?
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Jan. 25, 2023 at 10:04 a.m.
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Quoting: SociallyHawkward
Hawks accept. It's nice to see someone realize that even Friedman could be wrong. But why would you put the best faceoff guy in the league on the wing?


Lowry should be moved to 4C with a Toews acquisition.

Also, I think paying more than a 2nd or 3rd is definitely reasonable and likely. But I’m not sure they get a 23 1st for toews. Perhaps if they’d settle for 24 1st they get one. But think it’s more likely they get a nice prospect who needs a change of scenery and a 2nd. Something like Heinola and a pick, or a different prospect and a pick. Especially considering toews has full control of where he goes.

Also as for the OP, jets will have ~9 million dollars in cap space at the deadline. So if toews is acquired at 5.25, you still have just under 4 million left to make other moves.
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Jan. 25, 2023 at 10:10 a.m.
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Quoting: tsyls
Lowry should be moved to 4C with a Toews acquisition.

Also, I think paying more than a 2nd or 3rd is definitely reasonable and likely. But I’m not sure they get a 23 1st for toews. Perhaps if they’d settle for 24 1st they get one. But think it’s more likely they get a nice prospect who needs a change of scenery and a 2nd. Something like Heinola and a pick, or a different prospect and a pick. Especially considering toews has full control of where he goes.

Also as for the OP, jets will have ~9 million dollars in cap space at the deadline. So if toews is acquired at 5.25, you still have just under 4 million left to make other moves.


I think the jets of all teams could easily sell their fans on trading a 23' first for hometown hero toews but the hawks would probably settle for a 24' first. Can't see them wanting any D prospects, especially lefties. That's pretty much the 1 position they have an abundance of. But a 2nd and a decent forward prospect could work
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Jan. 25, 2023 at 10:11 a.m.
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Chevy is pretty smart, it's unlikely he goes full on crazy in the Toews trade.
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Jan. 25, 2023 at 10:12 a.m.
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Quoting: SociallyHawkward
Hawks accept. It's nice to see someone realize that even Friedman could be wrong. But why would you put the best faceoff guy in the league on the wing?

Regardless if he's C or W he'll be taking most of the draws, especially if playing with 55.
Jan. 25, 2023 at 10:18 a.m.
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It's crazy to me that you'd trade a good prospect and a '23 1st for Toews. Wow. Especially after it's reported that CHI would take less and as someone pointed out that Toews has full control of his destination. Crazy.
Jan. 25, 2023 at 10:19 a.m.
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We're expecting a third-round pick for Dimitri Kulikov, but we'd take a fourth-round pick in preference to a bottom-6 forward.
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Jan. 25, 2023 at 10:21 a.m.
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A pass for Anaheim

Try a 3rd rounder instead
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Jan. 25, 2023 at 10:22 a.m.
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HUGE overpay for Toews. If that's the cost, WPG is out. Rashevsky looks like an absolute stud and were throwing a 1st round pick in as well? I'd be willing to pay a 2nd and a 3rd but that's about it.
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Jan. 25, 2023 at 10:36 a.m.
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Quoting: tsyls
Lowry should be moved to 4C with a Toews acquisition.

Also, I think paying more than a 2nd or 3rd is definitely reasonable and likely. But I’m not sure they get a 23 1st for toews. Perhaps if they’d settle for 24 1st they get one. But think it’s more likely they get a nice prospect who needs a change of scenery and a 2nd. Something like Heinola and a pick, or a different prospect and a pick. Especially considering toews has full control of where he goes.

Also as for the OP, jets will have ~9 million dollars in cap space at the deadline. So if toews is acquired at 5.25, you still have just under 4 million left to make other moves.


Good points, I agree with all of it. Jets dont have a lot of picks and may not want to move that pick, so yeah Heinola and a mid round possibly would do it. That I think is why Toews is so attractive (O'Riley if healthy as well), you can reshape several lines by adding him. That cap space is fluid and its hard to exactly predict.
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Jan. 25, 2023 at 10:38 a.m.
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Chevy is pretty smart, it's unlikely he goes full on crazy in the Toews trade.


I dont think this deal is "crazy", and aging middle six Andrew Ladd got traded for a 1st and a former 1st. Crazy might be a 1st plus another pick plus an A prospect like Heinola.
Jan. 25, 2023 at 10:40 a.m.
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It's crazy to me that you'd trade a good prospect and a '23 1st for Toews. Wow. Especially after it's reported that CHI would take less and as someone pointed out that Toews has full control of his destination. Crazy.


It was second hand speculation, not a report. Not that I couldn't see it being a realistic outcome, but second hand speculation holds little weight. I could easily see it coming to something like this if there is a bidding war for Toews or if a team really just wants to go overboard as maybe a confidence boost to Toews, to say "we really like you and want you here", or maybe he comes with some sort of favorable extension.
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Jan. 25, 2023 at 10:45 a.m.
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I dont think this deal is "crazy", and aging middle six Andrew Ladd got traded for a 1st and a former 1st. Crazy might be a 1st plus another pick plus an A prospect like Heinola.


Different times, different situations. Just because another team made a mistake, it doesn't set the precedent or mean the Jets should make a mistake as well.

I think Chevy is smart enough to walk away from a piece that doesn't move the needle at all for the Jets if the price gets that high.
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Jan. 25, 2023 at 10:49 a.m.
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HUGE overpay for Toews. If that's the cost, WPG is out. Rashevsky looks like an absolute stud and were throwing a 1st round pick in as well? I'd be willing to pay a 2nd and a 3rd but that's about it.


Overpays are the name of the deadline game. Rashevsky "absolute stud"?, "pleasant surprise" or "interesting prospect" probably more fitting. Again, look at the history of deadline deals and you'll see a trend of 1st round picks in exchange for even just good players, not legendary captains, who can still score at a middle six rate, and leads the NHL in faceoff %. Here's a couple of examples...Brendan Lemieux, a 1st and a 4th for Kevin Hayes, 2018 Vegas gave up a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd for Tatar. Paul Stastny for a 1st and a C prospect.
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Jan. 25, 2023 at 10:52 a.m.
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I like the thought of adding Toews but as others have said that's a steep price, would try to keep it at a 2nd,3rd/B-prospect and if that's not enough then walk away.

Harkins has almost zero value, the Ducks will be wanting a 3rd or 4th round pick for Kulikov, funny how Kulikov has been decent since moving on from the Jets/Maurice&Kompon 💩💩 show.. 😆

Really think they need another top 4 dman and preferably at least a #2 type dman if they want to make some noise in the playoffs, that just doesn't look like a defense of a cup winner to me.
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Jan. 25, 2023 at 10:55 a.m.
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Quoting: tsyls

Also, I think paying more than a 2nd or 3rd is definitely reasonable and likely. But I’m not sure they get a 23 1st for toews. Perhaps if they’d settle for 24 1st they get one. But think it’s more likely they get a nice prospect who needs a change of scenery and a 2nd. Something like Heinola and a pick, or a different prospect and a pick. Especially considering toews has full control of where he goes.


I don't like the idea of giving up the 24 1st. you have no idea what will happen next year with likely no Dubois, and maybe a scheif/helle trade. If they did move the 24 1st there would be conditions but I would still rather give the 23 1st.
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Jan. 25, 2023 at 10:56 a.m.
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Overpays are the name of the deadline game. Rashevsky "absolute stud"?, "pleasant surprise" or "interesting prospect" probably more fitting. Again, look at the history of deadline deals and you'll see a trend of 1st round picks in exchange for even just good players, not legendary captains, who can still score at a middle six rate, and leads the NHL in faceoff %. Here's a couple of examples...Brendan Lemieux, a 1st and a 4th for Kevin Hayes, 2018 Vegas gave up a 1st, 2nd, and 3rd for Tatar. Paul Stastny for a 1st and a C prospect.


I'll be the first to admit that I am very high on Rashevsky so I won't disagree with you there. Your descriptions are probably more accurate at this point lol. I just think given his cap hit and the fact that he has full control on his destination, the return needs to be tempered a bit. I think a 2nd and 3rd value-wise is spot on given those 2 reasons but who knows.
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Jan. 25, 2023 at 11:07 a.m.
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I don't like the idea of giving up the 24 1st. you have no idea what will happen next year with likely no Dubois, and maybe a scheif/helle trade. If they did move the 24 1st there would be conditions but I would still rather give the 23 1st.


AGREE
Jan. 25, 2023 at 11:48 a.m.
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Hawks accept. It's nice to see someone realize that even Friedman could be wrong. But why would you put the best faceoff guy in the league on the wing?


They would likely throw PLD on the wing
Jan. 25, 2023 at 11:50 a.m.
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Kulikov sucks and he would either sit in the press box, or take playing time away from someone more deserving. Harkins can be had for a 4th or 5th round pick.
Jan. 25, 2023 at 1:09 p.m.
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In all fairness to Friedman, he did clarify that this was not what Chicago was asking but what other GMs told him what they thought it would take to get it done.

I think Davidson asks for a first, he accepts a 2023 second maybe before a 2024 first, and they may get creative and do something like Toews and 3rd (or a late 2nd--they have TB's) for a 2023 first.
Jan. 25, 2023 at 4:31 p.m.
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Good points, I agree with all of it. Jets dont have a lot of picks and may not want to move that pick, so yeah Heinola and a mid round possibly would do it. That I think is why Toews is so attractive (O'Riley if healthy as well), you can reshape several lines by adding him. That cap space is fluid and its hard to exactly predict.


If they were able to activate Appleton and gus before the weekend, they’d have already accrued nearly the 12 million in deadline cap space. Since that’s not realistic, they’ll like have accrued ~6-7 million in deadline cap space after this weekend.
Jan. 26, 2023 at 10:00 a.m.
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Trading their first for a rental is a dumb move IMO. If that's the asking price for a guy who's gonna play in your bottom 6 then the jets should target someone else with term or wait till the summer to make a bigger move.
Jan. 26, 2023 at 11:10 a.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
I like the thought of adding Toews but as others have said that's a steep price, would try to keep it at a 2nd,3rd/B-prospect and if that's not enough then walk away.

Harkins has almost zero value, the Ducks will be wanting a 3rd or 4th round pick for Kulikov, funny how Kulikov has been decent since moving on from the Jets/Maurice&Kompon 💩💩 show.. 😆

Really think they need another top 4 dman and preferably at least a #2 type dman if they want to make some noise in the playoffs, that just doesn't look like a defense of a cup winner to me.



Agree with this comment... Really didn't like what I saw in the Nashville game, were #2 and #4 on our Defense was being manhandled in our end by the Nashville forwards.. It's playoff hockey starting already with some of these teams that are behind.

Two immediate things for me: the Jets need to have a understanding to the direction that PLD is going, sooner than later and those potential assets used wisely. The Wheeler contract needs to be game planned and what will be happening over the next year and half (8.25 ml for another year beyond this season, is a big ouch!!!). Chevy has made some good moves/choices in the past, I believe these things will be addressed as they are required.

So, just a follow-up to my opening comment, which is a big ask: the Jets need a Right D-man with size in the 6-1 to 6-5 range with a bit of edge, plays the stay home game along side #44... Suggestions: short term (Van's #2, St. Louis's #41) & longer term: Edm's #5, Seattle's #6, Canes # 22 and our own prospect pool of Lundmark, Salomonsson & Chisholm. If this could happen, my hope is that one of current right side guys (#88) is moved, Heinola definitely shouldn't be in the future plans...
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