WSH TDL from DET fan perspective

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Created by: dtd_tank

Team: 2022-23 Washington Capitals

Initial Creation Date: Jan. 25, 2023

Published: Jan. 25, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

Spend your assets and go for it before the band breaks up!

I protected for cap space in case Carlson comes back early by getting 33% retention on Karlsson and moving Eller for Kubalik with retention. Had to do some gymnastics.

Kubalik would provide depth scoring at a similar rate to what Mantha has provided this year, but for much cheaper. Kuba has 14G and 33pts while Mantha has 9G and 24 pts.

Trades

WSH

Kubalik, Dominik ($1,250,000 retained)
2024 4th round pick (DET)

DET

Eller, Lars
2023 2nd round pick (WSH)

WSH

Karlsson, Erik ($3,795,000 retained)

Additional Details:

18% retention ($2.07M) as advertised by SJ.
15% retention ($1.725M) by CHI.

SJS

Irwin, Matt
Mantha, Anthony
2023 1st round pick (WSH)
2024 1st round pick (WSH)

WSH

CHI

McMichael, Connor
2025 2nd round pick (WSH)

Additional Details:

15% retention of Karlsson's contract, which helps get CHI to cap floor in following seasons.

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$82,500,000	$73,177,501	$100,000	$82,500	$9,322,499

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Ovechkin, Alex $9,500,000$9,500,000 LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 4	Strome, Dylan $3,500,000$3,500,000 C UFA - 1	Sheary, Conor $1,500,000$1,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 1
Milano, Sonny $750,000$750,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Kuznetsov, Evgeny $3,900,000$3,900,000 C M-NTC UFA - 3	Wilson, Tom $5,166,667$5,166,667 RW M-NTC UFA - 2
Kubalik, Dominik $1,250,000$1,250,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Bäckström, Nicklas $9,200,000$9,200,000 C NMC UFA - 3	Oshie, T.J. $5,750,000$5,750,000 RW M-NTC UFA - 3
Johansson, Marcus $1,100,000$1,100,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Dowd, Nic $1,300,000$1,300,000 C UFA - 3	Hathaway, Garnet $1,500,000$1,500,000 RW, LW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Orlov, Dmitry $1,275,000$1,275,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 1	Karlsson, Erik $6,205,000$6,205,000 RD NMC UFA - 5	Kuemper, Darcy $5,250,000$5,250,000 G M-NTC UFA - 5
Gustafsson, Erik $800,000$800,000 LD UFA - 1	Carlson, John $8,000,000$8,000,000 RD M-NTC UFA - 4	Lindgren, Charlie $1,100,000$1,100,000 G UFA - 3
Jensen, Nick $2,500,000$2,500,000 RD UFA - 1	van Riemsdyk, Trevor $950,000$950,000 RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
Protas, Aliaksei $789,167$789,167 ($82,500$82K) RW, LW, C UFA - 2		Brown, Connor $3,600,000$3,600,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
Aubé-Kubel, Nicolas $1,000,000$1,000,000 RW UFA - 1		Hagelin, Carl $2,750,000$2,750,000 LW UFA - 1
Fehérváry, Martin $791,667$791,667 LD/RD RFA - 1

Jan. 25, 2023 at 12:13 p.m.

capsfan2121

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i like the red wings trade

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Jan. 25, 2023 at 12:17 p.m.

qc14

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I think that SJ proved that Karlsson needs to be the undisputed #1 and get good assignments and pp time to be the guy he is. Just don't see how pairing Karlsson and Carlson is the best use of assets for the caps, and especially wary of giving up the 24 1st. If they are going all in, which I think they should, give up what would probably be a lesser package for a much better fit in Meier

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Jan. 25, 2023 at 12:22 p.m.

dtd_tank

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Quoting: qc14

I considered that Mantha would effectively "replace" Meier from a roster perspective in SJ's lineup since they'll likely trade him too, but didn't put it together to trade Mantha for Meier instead of acquiring Karlsson.

I agree with you, that Meier would probably make more sense. However, if Meier wants 9M or more, it would be difficult to squeeze that in.

Jan. 25, 2023 at 12:22 p.m.

buffbry

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Wings pass, doesn't make much sense for them

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Jan. 25, 2023 at 12:24 p.m.

dtd_tank

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Quoting: buffbry

Wings pass, doesn't make much sense for them

Upgrades a 4th to a 2nd and could potentially sign Lars as C depth for next year. Maybe a bit of an undersell on Kuba considering his stats this year, but I think we're actually selling high on him with this trade.

Jan. 25, 2023 at 12:28 p.m.

DeadWingsv2

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Really poor return for Detroit

Jan. 25, 2023 at 12:31 p.m.

dtd_tank

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Quoting: DeadWingsv2

Really poor return for Detroit

What do you expect to get for Kuba, and why?

Jan. 25, 2023 at 12:32 p.m.

AStovetop

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I was going to say that's a big price to pay for CHI to retain for 4 and a half years, but that return would be well worth it for them.

Idk if WSH does that though

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Jan. 25, 2023 at 12:46 p.m.

DeadWingsv2

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Quoting: dtd_tank

What do you expect to get for Kuba, and why?

I don't see a reason to trade him. He's got another year on his contract at a bargain and adds secondary scoring. Unless a team offered us a significant return(overpay), no reason to move him.

Jan. 25, 2023 at 1:19 p.m.

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buffbry

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Quoting: dtd_tank

I just think it benefits us to keep him instead of sell him, Eller stinks and have no desire to take that player. The 2nd + 3rd is prob close to his value, but just think at least until next deadline since he's signed for another year, rather rkeep him and sell next year If we don't resign him

Jan. 25, 2023 at 1:34 p.m.

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Hawksguy81

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I like the return, but can't see the Hawks burning one of three retention spots for this year, plus the next 4. That's a huge ask for a rebuilding team.

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Jan. 25, 2023 at 1:42 p.m.

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AStovetop

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Quoting: Hawksguy81

I like the return, but can't see the Hawks burning one of three retention spots for this year, plus the next 4. That's a huge ask for a rebuilding team.

It's definitely a tough one, but I can't see them needing to retain on anyone other than Kane and Toews this year (if Kane will even be healthy to be traded). And those retentions will expire after this year. And then Next year it would just be Johnson likely.
I think that's way too good of a return to say no to though

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Jan. 25, 2023 at 1:48 p.m.

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Hawksguy81

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Quoting: AStovetop

This season - Domi, AA, maybe McCabe
Next season - Johnson, Dickerson, Mrazek plus any FA they would sign or other players they might acquire in a trade

It's a good return, no question. Just limits Davidson's ability to maneuver. Not sure what he values more.

Jan. 25, 2023 at 2:53 p.m.

#14

BoringBrianMacLellan

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I'm a fan of the Detroit trade. Not a fan of going after Karlsson though. Would rather go after cheaper options like Luke Schenn or Dmitry Kulikov

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