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Vancouver Canucks signed Andrei Kuzmenko (2 Years / $5,500,000 AAV)

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Jan. 26, 2023 at 9:27 p.m.
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It's a great contract but it buys only 2 UFA years and he could've gotten a haul at the deadline. Idk what Vancouver is doing at this point lmao, but I love Kuzy and hope he enjoys Vancouver. I just don't see the point of signing Kuzmenko for 2 years and with a M-NTC when apparently they're cleaning shop everywhere else. If they we're gonna sign someone it should've been Horvat.....
Jan. 26, 2023 at 10:25 p.m.
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Good contract, doesn't really make sense tho.
Jan. 26, 2023 at 10:36 p.m.
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They could still trade him.
Jan. 26, 2023 at 10:45 p.m.
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Jan. 26, 2023 at 10:50 p.m.
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The only thing that comes to mind is: Nikita Gusev
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Jan. 26, 2023 at 11:55 p.m.
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Quoting: DarcyTucker
Why trade your UFAs futures when you can re-sign them and stay mediocre forever?


Quoting: drambui
well, when they are still bad in 2 years they can still trade him for a first.


Quoting: tkecanuck341




hes 26...
not 32

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This is a prime example of how bad teams stay bad.
Jan. 26, 2023 at 11:55 p.m.
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Quoting: NHLfan10506
The only thing that comes to mind is: Nikita Gusev


no
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Jan. 27, 2023 at 12:03 a.m.
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Think it good for the Canucks, as they keep a productive player. If Kuzmenko continues to play well he will still have good trade value, even at TDL in 2025, if a trade is needed by the Canucks.

The advantage of the Canucks trading this year, is they would get a future young asset and 5.5m to spend for the next two years. I think the Canucks made the right decision.
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Jan. 27, 2023 at 12:25 a.m.
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a real half-ass of a contract. The AAV is fine if you think he's gonna be a solid 30 goal scorer, but he's only 26 - why not give him more term than 2 years? I think that's the part that sticks out more to me - it's noncommittal. too scared to try and cash him in as a rental this year but too wishy washy to commit to him long term - why not lock him in for 5-6 years at that AAV seeing that you're going to be paying JT Miller & OEL big money for those years??
Jan. 27, 2023 at 4:10 a.m.
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Quoting: DarcyTucker
Why trade your UFAs futures when you can re-sign them and stay mediocre forever?


No guarantee that the Canucks stay mediocre forever, it's just a lazy assumption
Jan. 27, 2023 at 4:12 a.m.
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Quoting: mondo
Would've made more sense to trade him for at very least a first round pick. Canucks aren't going anywhere this year and are likely going to be treading water for the next two seasons.

Apparently him and Pettersson get along well so I've been under the impression that keeping him is apart of keeping Pettersson next season.


Could be, but I think what this really means is that the management team isn't interested in putting up the white flag and trading their newly acquired players just because they haven't been able to move some of the iffy contracts they inherited. I'm sure this is just the beginning, and management probably won't be able to do absolutely everything the want to in one off-season, but I'm sure they won't come away empty handed
Jan. 27, 2023 at 4:12 a.m.
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Quoting: python3504
this is why i voted no


Very short-sighted of you
Jan. 27, 2023 at 4:14 a.m.
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Quoting: eddyed24
5.5 is a good value for Kuzmenko, however it doesn't make sense for Vancouver to keep him, when they could have trade him for something.


Vancouver isn't interested in moving their newly acquired players just because management inherited some contracts they haven't been able to move yet. They're not going say uncle like that, and they're not doing this to cut off their nose to spite their face. They're not going to trade players whom could still be part of the solution
Jan. 27, 2023 at 4:15 a.m.
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Quoting: BluesFan81
The deal is fine ig but Vancouver really seems to struggle with asset management fr like he shoulda been traded.


Struggle with asset management? Have you not heard that they made wholesale regime changes just over a year ago?
Jan. 27, 2023 at 4:16 a.m.
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Quoting: zk97
value-wise the contract is fine, but it makes zero sense for them to resign kuzmenko when they could've gotten a haul for him... which is what they need to do


Are you kidding me? Seriously, are you kidding me? They weren't getting anything close to what your definition of a "haul" likely is. Kuzy doesn't have the track record to warrant that kind of trade value, no playoff performance precedent etc.
Jan. 27, 2023 at 4:17 a.m.
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Quoting: ronan00
Nice value contract from what he showed so far, just the wrong move for the team

Should 100% have traded him


Why? This team needs to move the players that have been around for some years, not their newly acquired players. Kuzmenko's trade value wasn't even that high
Jan. 27, 2023 at 4:18 a.m.
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Quoting: Bruins1054_gmb
Agreed. They should have traded Miller at the deadline last year. Instead inked him to an extension and a contract that no team will want. Oh, and VAN is a dumpster fire.


They'll get out of it. None of what they've done is any worse than your Bruins signing Mitchell Miller, and it's not our fault you don't recognize that the trade offers for Miller weren't that enticing
Jan. 27, 2023 at 4:19 a.m.
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Quoting: tkecanuck341




Kuzmenko isn't part of the problem, that makes no sense
Jan. 27, 2023 at 4:19 a.m.
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Quoting: Doshee
good value for the sign, but Vancouver is merely treading water atm, they cannot commit to winning or losing for a purpose, and this is going to be seen as a catalyst for this
Good sign, but awful timing
Wonder if this signing is to try to get people to forget the bruce boudreau situation


This isn't a cut off your nose to spite your face type of move
Jan. 27, 2023 at 4:19 a.m.
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Him and Petterson can leave at the same time now


You're not wrong
Jan. 27, 2023 at 4:20 a.m.
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Quoting: eazy_duz_it
In my opinion, kuzmenko should have been traded. Whether you want to view him as a rental or not, chiarot as a rental got a 1st+ and while that will never happen again, kuzmenko is worth a 1+a B level prospect at the least+a later round pick


Chiarot is a defenseman, very diffferent market for D-men than wingers in case you didn't know
Jan. 27, 2023 at 4:22 a.m.
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JR has shut his mouth (thankfully) but then convinces the blueberry-boy to open his wallet (again)!
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Canucks haven't sucked for the whole 50 years. Not winning a stanley cup doesn't equate to sucking always, but definitely sucking for too long
Jan. 27, 2023 at 4:23 a.m.
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Quoting: Swampy_Rabbit
Ight... so Bo is gone.


Probably. If Bo is re-signed and none of Boeser, Garland, or Myers get moved at the deadline, then we can start to panic
Jan. 27, 2023 at 4:24 a.m.
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Quoting: Leafsfan98
Good contract, confusing time... Why aren't you trying to sign your captain instead of Kuzmenko? I voted yes because good contract and easily movable if needed


Kuzmenko is a lot cheaper than Horvat obviously
Jan. 27, 2023 at 4:24 a.m.
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Quoting: drambui
well, when they are still bad in 2 years they can still trade him for a first.


If he keeps up this level of production or close to he should. Not sure why so few people can figure that out for themselves
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