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Created by: dannibalcorpse
Team: 2023-24 New York Islanders
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 26, 2023
Published: Jan. 26, 2023
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This team? Folks, it's bad. Let's see how much less bad we can make it.

TRADES
-First three would be done at this year's TDL. Doesn't necessarily have to be those teams buying, but I would think this is the type of value those guys get. Mayfield gets the Manson comp (2nd & a good prosepct), Varly waives to go over the bridge and gets back a 3rd and a surplus prospect from the Devils, and Parise goes to whatever contender wants to give up a 3rd.

-Beauvillier for Garland is a classic change of scenery trade. Swapping Garland out means that the Canucks get the less productive player, but I'd argue that Garland's term and higher AAV sap that surplus value. If Canucks fans want a little treat to come with Beau, sure, but I can't see it being anymore more than a mid-round pick.

-Nelson is a tough guy for me to gauge. I think if they trade him they should eat as much cap as possible - trading him means you're treating next season as a transitional year, so who cares about the dead cap? Nelson at $3M is a steal - a 25-30 goal scorer who can easily slot in as 2C anywhere. I picked the Blues because I feel like they're another team stuck with older guys with term, and think that they might go "all in" over the next 2-3 years. It's a steep price, but how many guys making $3M are as productive as Nelson?

SIGNINGS
-Re-sign the key RFAs to simple deals, gave Wahlstrom 3x$2.5M with the idea that whatever injury he's currently out with is not career-altering, and kept Reilly Walsh around to be RD3 with a decent veteran hand like Sebastian Aho at LD3.

UFA-wise, I targeted Sonny Milano as a guy who SHOULD HAVE been targeted this summer; he's not gonna cost the league minimum now, Lou. Otherwise, I picked up Matt Nieto and Antti Raanta on 1-year deals with the hope that they can be flipped out for futures if the team goes in the tank.

I don't know, this team looks better than the one currently on the ice. My hope is more of a focus on younger guys and building a new culture with Ilya Sorokin being a pending UFA - show him that the team can bounce back while he's still younger and see if he can stick around for that. I think this team is probably similar to this year's squad, on the playoff bubble, but with a younger core I feel like you can paint that as more hopeful than the current team.

ROAST AWAY BABIES
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$850,000
1$850,000
1$850,000
3$2,500,000
2$950,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,000,000
1$2,000,000
1$1,500,000
Trades
1.
NYI
  1. Martino, Ayrton [Reserve List]
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (DAL)
Additional Details:
Dallas gives up a 2nd and a solid prospect for RHD depth at this year's deadline.
DAL
    Scott Mayfield @ '22-23 TDL
    2.
    NYI
    1. Walsh, Reilly [RFA Rights]
    2. 2024 3rd round pick (NJD)
    Additional Details:
    Devils give up a mid-round pick and a surplus RHD to bolster their goalie situation in hopes of making a playoff run.
    NJD
      Varlamov (fully retained) 22-23 TDL
      3.
      NYI
      1. 2023 3rd round pick (TBL)
      Additional Details:
      Could be any contender looking for a guy who can play anywhere in the lineup for a playoff run.
      TBL
        Zach Parise @ '23 TDL
        4.
        NYI
        1. Garland, Conor
        Additional Details:
        Change of scenery for both guys. Vancouver gives up the slightly better player but gets back a lower cap hit that expires sooner.
        5.
        NYI
        1. Bolduc, Zachary
        2. 2024 2nd round pick (STL)
        Additional Details:
        Blues get a 60 point 2C to replace ROR at 2x$3M if they decide to retool rather than full rebuild.
        STL
        1. Nelson, Brock ($3,000,000 retained)
        Additional Details:
        Value is tough for me - I know Blues fans will hate giving up Bolduc but I think getting a guy like Nelson at this cap hit is worth a premium return.
        Buyouts
        Retained Salary Transactions
        DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
        2023
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        Logo of the TBL
        Logo of the NYI
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        Logo of the NYI
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        2024
        Logo of the NYI
        Logo of the NYI
        Logo of the DAL
        Logo of the STL
        Logo of the NYI
        Logo of the NJD
        Logo of the NYI
        Logo of the NYI
        Logo of the NYI
        Logo of the NYI
        2025
        Logo of the NYI
        Logo of the NYI
        Logo of the NYI
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        ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
        23$83,500,000$77,991,667$0$82,500$5,508,333
        Left WingCentreRight Wing
        Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
        $4,950,000$4,950,000
        RW, LW
        UFA - 3
        Logo of the New York Islanders
        $9,150,000$9,150,000
        C, RW
        UFA - 8
        Logo of the New York Islanders
        $2,500,000$2,500,000
        RW
        RFA - 1
        Logo of the New York Islanders
        $7,000,000$7,000,000
        LW
        NTC
        UFA - 3
        Logo of the New York Islanders
        $836,667$836,667 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
        C
        RFA - 2
        Logo of the New York Islanders
        $863,333$863,333
        RW
        RFA - 1
        $2,000,000$2,000,000
        LW, RW
        UFA - 3
        Logo of the New York Islanders
        $5,000,000$5,000,000
        C
        M-NTC
        UFA - 3
        Logo of the New York Islanders
        $5,000,000$5,000,000
        RW, LW
        M-NTC
        UFA - 2
        $1,500,000$1,500,000
        LW, RW
        UFA - 2
        Logo of the New York Islanders
        $2,500,000$2,500,000
        C
        UFA - 4
        Logo of the New York Islanders
        $1,750,000$1,750,000
        RW
        UFA - 1
        Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
        Logo of the New York Islanders
        $5,750,000$5,750,000
        LD
        NTC
        UFA - 6
        Logo of the New York Islanders
        $6,150,000$6,150,000
        RD
        NTC
        UFA - 7
        Logo of the New York Islanders
        $4,000,000$4,000,000
        G
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the New York Islanders
        $2,500,000$2,500,000
        LD
        RFA - 2
        Logo of the New York Islanders
        $4,000,000$4,000,000
        RD
        RFA - 2
        $2,000,000$2,000,000
        G
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the New York Islanders
        $825,000$825,000
        LD
        UFA - 1
        $950,000$950,000
        RD
        UFA - 1
        ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
        Logo of the New York Islanders
        $1,500,000$1,500,000
        LW, RW
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the New York Islanders
        $800,000$800,000
        LD
        UFA - 1
        Logo of the New York Islanders
        $800,000$800,000
        LW, RW, C
        UFA - 1

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        Jan. 26, 2023 at 3:18 p.m.
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        Dallas accepts. Really like Martino, but I can stomach losing him if it means keeping the 23 2nd Round Pick.
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        Jan. 26, 2023 at 3:25 p.m.
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        Quoting: TheMooterus
        Dallas accepts. Really like Martino, but I can stomach losing him if it means keeping the 23 2nd Round Pick.


        That's what I was figuring - would rather have more picks in this year's draft but can understand the Stars not wanting to move out their first 2 picks this year. Martino looks like a guy who could step in as middle-6 playmaker sooner than later, super intriguing prospect.
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        Jan. 26, 2023 at 3:48 p.m.
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        I would accept that offer as the Stars' GM
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        Jan. 26, 2023 at 3:49 p.m.
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        Canucks pass.
        Jan. 26, 2023 at 3:52 p.m.
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        That's an easy pass for the blues. Have no need or want for Nelson. We are rebuilding and this doesn't feel like an Army trade. Most of his big trades are for players in the 25-28 range like ROR, Buchnevich, Schenn, etc.... Also we are trading Tarasenko and ROR so why would we want to pick up Nelson. We are transitioning to a younger core that will include Bolduc. We aren't going for it anymore. All the reports coming out from the blues reporters indicate that we will be big sellers at the TDL.
        Jan. 26, 2023 at 3:54 p.m.
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        Brock Nelson at 3m x 2 is extremely enticing but not the direction the Blues should be heading. No reason to upgrade the roster until they can figure out the mess on defense. Seems like a deal that Minnesota should jump on - they've got a deeper pool to spend from as well.
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        Jan. 26, 2023 at 3:55 p.m.
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        Quoting: Tennisman142
        That's an easy pass for the blues. Have no need or want for Nelson


        Was trying to figure out what they're doing - they've got too many long term deals to older vets (Saad/Schenn/Parayko/Krug) to do a full tear-down and rebuild, but they're also losing ROR & Tarasenko this summer. I could see them targeting a guy like Nelson as a solid 2C replacement for ROR, especially at a $3M AAV - but I could also see them going full scorched earth and rebuilding around Kyrou & Thomas. Tough team to read.
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        Jan. 26, 2023 at 3:57 p.m.
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        Quoting: dannibalcorpse
        Was trying to figure out what they're doing - they've got too many long term deals to older vets (Saad/Schenn/Parayko/Krug) to do a full tear-down and rebuild, but they're also losing ROR & Tarasenko this summer. I could see them targeting a guy like Nelson as a solid 2C replacement for ROR, especially at a $3M AAV - but I could also see them going full scorched earth and rebuilding around Kyrou & Thomas. Tough team to read.


        All the reports indicate they are selling big. If anything we would re-sign ROR who has indicated he wants to stay on the blues rather than give up valuable prospects
        Jan. 26, 2023 at 3:58 p.m.
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        Brock Nelson at 3m x 2 is extremely enticing but not the direction the Blues should be heading. No reason to upgrade the roster until they can figure out the mess on defense. Seems like a deal that Minnesota should jump on - they've got a deeper pool to spend from as well.


        Trust me, I thought about it, but there's a decent contingent of Wild fans on these boards who will light you up if you dare suggest that team add any sort of cap for the next couple years. Nelson makes a ton of sense as their 2C with that roster, though, I do agree with you there.
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        Jan. 26, 2023 at 3:59 p.m.
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        Quoting: Tennisman142
        All the reports indicate they are selling big. If anything we would re-sign ROR who has indicated he wants to stay on the blues rather than give up valuable prospects


        Blues & Isles are really in similar spots right now - a handful of older vets with NTCs that you can't move to clear cap, a couple young stars that are going to start eating more cap next season, and not a ton of stuff coming up in the pipeline. I think I'd be a little more confident in the situation if Doug Armstrong were my GM, though, so at least you have that!
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        Jan. 26, 2023 at 4:15 p.m.
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        Blackwood has quietly been playing rather well this year.
        Vanecek is having a very good season also and would prefer him to start for the Devils in the playoffs over Varlamov.
        This is not to say I don't rate Varlamov (I do!) but I currently don't see the need for him.

        If one of Blackwood or Vanecek are injured at the TDL I'd want them to pull the trigger on this deal, Walsh is the perfect piece to trade here.
        That's how I feel about the Devils getting a goalie in anyway.
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        Jan. 26, 2023 at 5:40 p.m.
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        Yeah, it's an extremely intriguing proposal, but I feel like the Blues probably stay away from that one.
         
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