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Deadline blockbuster

Created by: fangm
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 26, 2023
Published: Jan. 26, 2023
Team: 2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs
Description
This assumes the Canucks go all in for Bedard and a rebuild
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Hughes, Quinn ($1,850,000 retained)
  2. Schenn, Luke
VAN
  1. Knies, Matthew [Reserve List]
  2. Niemelä, Topi
  3. Robertson, Nicholas
  4. Sandin, Rasmus
  5. 2023 1st round pick (TOR)
  6. 2024 1st round pick (TOR)
2.
TOR
  1. 2023 2nd round pick (EDM)
EDM
  1. Kerfoot, Alexander
  2. 2024 4th round pick (TOR)
Additional Details:
4th goes to Arizona to retain half
3.
TOR
  1. 2025 2nd round pick (WSH)
WSH
  1. Holl, Justin
4.
TOR
  1. 2025 4th round pick (COL)
COL
  1. Engvall, Pierre
5.
TOR
  1. Barbashev, Ivan ($1,125,000 retained)
  2. O'Reilly, Ryan ($3,750,000 retained)
STL
  1. Anderson, Joey
  2. Minten, Fraser
  3. Steeves, Alex
  4. 2024 2nd round pick (TOR)
  5. 2025 1st round pick (TOR)
DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$82,500,000$76,736,246$212,500$0$5,763,754
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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Bunting, Michael
$950,000
LW
UFA - 1
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Matthews, Auston
$11,640,250
C
UFA - 2
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Marner, Mitchell
$10,903,000
RW
UFA - 3
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Barbashev, Ivan
$1,125,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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Tavares, John
$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 3
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Nylander, William
$6,962,366
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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Järnkrok, Calle
$2,100,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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O'Reilly, Ryan
-$1,875,000
C
UFA - 1
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McMann, Bobby
$762,500
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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Aston-Reese, Zach
$840,630
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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Kämpf, David
$1,500,000
C
UFA - 1
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Holmberg, Pontus
$827,500
C
RFA - 1
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Simmonds, Wayne
$900,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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Rielly, Morgan
$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 8
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Brodie, TJ
$5,000,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 2
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Murray, Matt
$4,687,500
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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Hughes, Quinn
$6,000,000
LD
UFA - 5
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Schenn, Luke
$850,000
RD
UFA - 1
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Samsonov, Ilya
$1,800,000
G
RFA - 1
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Giordano, Mark
$800,000
LD
UFA - 2
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Liljegren, Timothy
$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 2
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Timmins, Conor
$850,000
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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Muzzin, Jake
$5,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
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Mete, Victor
$750,000
LD/RD
RFA - 1

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Jan. 26 at 10:20 p.m.
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JohnJohnson
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Fair offer for Hughes, actually an overpay, but he’s not going anywhere
Jan. 26 at 10:25 p.m.
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Not sure why the Leafs would target Hughes when Rielly is a similar style player. Canucks wouldn’t retain for that long either. Both teams decline
Jan. 26 at 10:30 p.m.
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Cool so the blues have an easy no here
Jan. 26 at 10:52 p.m.
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Canucks pass
Jan. 26 at 11:09 p.m.
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I'd take that as a Canucks fan...blow it up.
Jan. 26 at 11:34 p.m.
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Leafs aren't trading a NHL Dman (at 1.4m) Sandin and future one (hopefully) Niemela, and two firsts , and Knies and Robertson for 6m Hughes.

That St Louis trade is awful for the Leafs. Barbashov isn't that special, and though ROR could be be half a season, to give a first, second and Minten is extremely high.
Jan. 27 at 12:27 a.m.
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Quoting: JohnJohnson
Fair offer for Hughes, actually an overpay, but he’s not going anywhere


I think Vancouver is in a situation where nobody is untouchable because almost everyone will ask to leave. Already rumours Peterson's agent has said he won't resign, I think if Alvin in smart he trades everyone now, tried to get Bedard and start from scratch, just keep the guys he brought in as his vets.
Jan. 27 at 12:29 a.m.
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Quoting: mv21227
Not sure why the Leafs would target Hughes when Rielly is a similar style player. Canucks wouldn’t retain for that long either. Both teams decline


Reilly hasn't been playing great and if the leafs can get Hughes thats 5 years of Hughes #1 and Reilly #3 with Brodie as #2 succeeded by Lili in a few years. It essentially sets their D for the foreseeable future and with Schenn/Brodie/Lili you have D first guys down the right so no harm in offensive guys on the left.
Jan. 27 at 12:30 a.m.
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Quoting: xercuses
Cool so the blues have an easy no here


As others in the comments say, Blues would be crazy to turn that down.
Jan. 27 at 12:31 a.m.
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Quoting: theleano1
Canucks pass


Why? It's easily fair value for Hughes you are getting likes two top 4 D and two top 6 forwards potentially 2/3 future all-star and two firsts.
Jan. 27 at 12:33 a.m.
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fangm
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Quoting: palhal
Leafs aren't trading a NHL Dman (at 1.4m) Sandin and future one (hopefully) Niemela, and two firsts , and Knies and Robertson for 6m Hughes.

That St Louis trade is awful for the Leafs. Barbashov isn't that special, and though ROR could be be half a season, to give a first, second and Minten is extremely high.


I think if Dubas feels his job is on the line these deals make sense. Cause if it works who cares. If it doesn't you still have a top 10 NHL D in Hughes for 4 more years at a reasonable price. Schenn could resign low, O'Reilly is from Toronto and could resign at 7x3.5M.

There are options to make this work for the next 3-5 years.

But fundamentally you can't argue the team after these trades is better than before for this season and arguably one of the best in the least few years.
Jan. 27 at 12:35 a.m.
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Quoting: fangm
I think Vancouver is in a situation where nobody is untouchable because almost everyone will ask to leave. Already rumours Peterson's agent has said he won't resign, I think if Alvin in smart he trades everyone now, tried to get Bedard and start from scratch, just keep the guys he brought in as his vets.

“If Alvin is smart” is where your point falls apart. They are petrified of a rebuild and are attempting to retool. Hughes is staying
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Jan. 27 at 2:30 a.m.
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Quoting: fangm
Why? It's easily fair value for Hughes you are getting likes two top 4 D and two top 6 forwards potentially 2/3 future all-star and two firsts.


Because Hughes is and will be the best player in this deal, there is no reason to trade Hughes, rather find a top 4 d in another trade
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Jan. 27 at 9:43 a.m.
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Quoting: fangm
As others in the comments say, Blues would be crazy to turn that down.


One person said that and they aren’t a Blues fan so I would take that comment with a large grain of salt.

Blues would rather have less more bauble peices then a bunch of junk plus a first 3 years from now
23 first and a 3rd for ROR, 23 2nd and a 3rd for barby
 
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