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Helping the yzerplan

Created by: FilthyMitts05
Team: 2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 27, 2023
Published: Jan. 27, 2023
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Im not sure whos on Larkins NTC but with my luck its gonna be Toronto. How do we find that info?
If they can't make it work next season nylander or marner trade to get a ton of assets back. I think Larkin fits in the core nice.
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TOR
  1. Larkin, Dylan ($3,050,000 retained)
  2. Määttä, Olli
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9.5 x 6 extension
DET
  1. Bunting, Michael
  2. Engvall, Pierre
  3. Minten, Fraser
  4. Niemelä, Topi
  5. 2023 1st round pick (TOR)
  6. 2024 1st round pick (TOR)
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TOR
  1. 2023 4th round pick (SEA)
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2023
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2024
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2025
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22$82,500,000$69,745,996$212,500$0$12,754,004
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$3,050,000$3,050,000
C
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UFA - 1
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$10,903,000$10,903,000
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RW, C, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
C, LW
NMC
UFA - 3
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$6,962,366$6,962,366
RW
UFA - 2
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
C
UFA - 1
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$840,630$840,630
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$827,500$827,500
C, LW
RFA - 1
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$900,000$900,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 8
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
RD
RFA - 2
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$4,687,500$4,687,500
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
G
UFA - 1
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$850,000$850,000
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$750,000$750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
LD
NTC
UFA - 2
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$762,500$762,500
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$796,667$796,667
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$750,000$750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
UFA - 2

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Jan. 27, 2023 at 1:58 p.m.
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Nope.
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Jan. 27, 2023 at 1:58 p.m.
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Toronto is out, they'd want Knies, and Toronto won't do it.
Jan. 27, 2023 at 1:58 p.m.
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Quoting: DeadWingsv2
Nope.


.......was it that bad lol?
Jan. 27, 2023 at 2:00 p.m.
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.......was it that bad lol?

It's not even about value, Detroit just isn't moving Larkin. They will have a new deal soon enough.

Larkin would need to slap Yzerman's momma in the face and insult her lasagna for things to fall apart... this "contention" is 100% a negotiation tactic both ways. Larkin's agent is Brisson and Yzerman is a tough negotiator as well. When Yzerman was in Tampa, Stamkos went all the way to within 3 days of UFA, but they still got a deal done. Yzerman is not going to show his hand and Larkin (rightfully so) wants the most money he can get WITH the Wings. If push comes to shove and Yzerman presents a final offer that risks him actually going to UFA, Larkin will sign it before he walks. I am not concerned in the slightest about a deal being worked out.
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Jan. 27, 2023 at 2:05 p.m.
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Why would they sign him to a 9.5mx6?

If they are paying that much in assets then they should be giving him an 8 year deal, especially if he really is a great fit like you said.
Jan. 27, 2023 at 2:05 p.m.
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Holy crap...a 9.5 x 6 extension for Maatta?
Jan. 27, 2023 at 2:06 p.m.
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Why would they sign him to a 9.5mx6?

If they are paying that much in assets then they should be giving him an 8 year deal, especially if he really is a great fit like you said.


TBH that makes more sense I was more focused on the trade then the signing. Would that change the AAV? probably not by much if it does
Jan. 27, 2023 at 2:08 p.m.
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Edited Jan. 27, 2023 at 2:33 p.m.
Quoting: FilthyMitts05
.......was it that bad lol?


Outside of Niemela and the 2 1st round picks, Yeah it's bad. First off there is no way Dubas is giving Larkin $9,500,000 when he still needs to re-sign both Matthews and Nylander. plus it starts with Matthew Knies your top prospect at the very least for a starter. Larkin isn't getting traded a deal will get done Yzerman already said that he has until june 30th to get a deal done that's still 5 months away.

Zero chance of Yzerman resigning Bunting, So he's a no go.

We've our own Pierre Engval in Elmer Soderblom so we pass again.

Fraser Minten is another 3C LHS that we already have an over abundance of plus have far more coming up in our pipeline. So pass again.

Detroit can really use a RHD prospect so Neimela works there plus 2 1st round picks in the 25-32 range isn't bad.
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Jan. 27, 2023 at 2:09 p.m.
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Leafs wouldn't pay that
Jan. 27, 2023 at 2:09 p.m.
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Leafs wouldn't pay that


Leafs would have to pay that.
Jan. 27, 2023 at 2:10 p.m.
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Quoting: FilthyMitts05
TBH that makes more sense I was more focused on the trade then the signing. Would that change the AAV? probably not by much if it does


Probably wouldn't change it much since the AAV isn't even low. Definitely should be getting max term. If they are not confident enough to sign him past 32, then it's not worth acquiring him.
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Jan. 27, 2023 at 2:12 p.m.
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I might just be the Antichrist of armchair gm. My ideas are triggering.
Jan. 27, 2023 at 2:13 p.m.
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Quoting: FilthyMitts05
Leafs would have to pay that.


My point is they aren't getting him
Jan. 27, 2023 at 2:24 p.m.
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Toronto wouldn’t be on Larkins no trade list, he grew up a Leafs fan
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Jan. 27, 2023 at 2:29 p.m.
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Quoting: SNipeSHowInc
Toronto wouldn’t be on Larkins no trade list, he grew up a Leafs fan


Thank you
Jan. 27, 2023 at 2:40 p.m.
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Quoting: FilthyMitts05
Thank you


Make that his dad was a Leafs fan, Dylan a redwings fan. Still i doubt he would have Toronto on his list for that reason alone
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Jan. 27, 2023 at 3:34 p.m.
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Toronto wouldn’t be on Larkins no trade list, he grew up a Leafs fan


Well that's just not true!!! He grew up a Wings fan and his favorite player growing up is now the Wings GM.
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Jan. 27, 2023 at 3:36 p.m.
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That really doesn't help at all. Two real late 1sts and a bunch of meh for a ~PPG C and a legit top 4 D, and you don't even include Knies lol

edit- just noticed the 3M retained by Detroit for 6 years lolololol
Jan. 27, 2023 at 3:37 p.m.
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Quoting: LukaTAG
Leafs wouldn't pay that


Detroit wouldn't accept that for their Captain, outside of Niemela and the 2 1st it's pure rubbish for us. None of those players are a need. We've better in our pipeline.
Jan. 27, 2023 at 3:38 p.m.
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Quoting: Drw4209
That really doesn't help at all. Two real late 1sts and a bunch of meh for a ~PPG C and a legit top 4 D, and you don't even include Knies lol


Niemela, Minten, and Bunting aren't a bunch of meh. Engvall was added to make the cap work out.
Jan. 27, 2023 at 3:38 p.m.
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Quoting: FilthyMitts05
Thank you


He's wrong his Dad Kevin Larkin grew up a Leafs fan. Dylan 100% grew up a Red Wings fan.
Jan. 27, 2023 at 3:41 p.m.
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Quoting: FilthyMitts05
Niemela, Minten, and Bunting aren't a bunch of meh. Engvall was added to make the cap work out.


Yzerman wouldn't even re-sign Bunting. Minten is another 3C LHS we've in spades Niemela is fine because we need to bolster our RD pipeline back up and the 2 1st. Larkin with an extension would get a far better package than this.
Jan. 27, 2023 at 3:42 p.m.
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Quoting: LukaTAG
Leafs wouldn't pay that


The leafs would literally do that in a heartbeat tf you smoking
Jan. 27, 2023 at 3:50 p.m.
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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
Detroit wouldn't accept that for their Captain, outside of Niemela and the 2 1st it's pure rubbish for us. None of those players are a need. We've better in our pipeline.


Okay, so it's not a fit for either team
Jan. 27, 2023 at 3:51 p.m.
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Quoting: FilthyMitts05
Niemela, Minten, and Bunting aren't a bunch of meh. Engvall was added to make the cap work out.


bunting is trash, minten and niemala are decent prospects but nothing great. Wings would need multiple high end pieces, elite prospects and/or top 10 picks++ to even consider something like this
 
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