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Pulling a fast one

Created by: Bannedforlife
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 27, 2023
Published: Jan. 27, 2023
Team: 2023-24 Detroit Red Wings
Description
Trade Larkin at the deadline and overpay him to come back in the offseason. Gives us a legitimate shot at the cup next year with Larkin, horvat, copp and Kasper down the middle with lethal shooters like Pasta and a rehabbed Vrana on the wing, plus our high 23 first ready to come up for the playoffs. Trade Vrana, Bertuzzi, Perron, Kubalik and Hronek at the 24 deadline to make room for Seider, Raymond, Rasmussen, Berggren and Durzi raises. 23 first pick and guys like Lombardi and James and Savage should be ready to step up by then
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$1,250,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$13,000,000
7$9,500,000
7$7,500,000
1$4,750,000
4$3,000,000
3$2,750,000
2$1,500,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Bedard-Fantilli-Carlsson-Smith-Yager, Connor-Adam-Leo-Will-Brayden
3$950,000
Trades
1.
DET
  1. 2023 1st round pick (COL)
  2. 2024 1st round pick (COL)
COL
    Larkin, Dylan

    2023 TDL
    2.
    DET
    1. Durzi, Sean
    LAK
    1. Chiarot, Ben ($1,750,000 retained)
    2. 2024 2nd round pick (DET)
    3.
    DET
      Any team that will give something for him
      ANA
      1. Fabbri, Robby
      Buyouts
      Retained Salary Transactions
      Buried
      DRAFT YEARROUND 1ROUND 2ROUND 3ROUND 4ROUND 5ROUND 6ROUND 7
      2023
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      2024
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      2025
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      ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
      23$83,500,000$83,452,222$0$5,340,000$47,778
      Left WingCentreRight Wing
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      Berggren, Jonatan
      $925,000
      RW, LW
      RFA - 1
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      Larkin, Dylan
      $9,500,000
      C
      UFA - 8
      Pastrnak, David
      $13,000,000
      RW
      UFA - 8
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      Vrána, Jakub
      $2,625,000
      LW
      UFA - 1
      Horvat, Bo
      $7,500,000
      C
      UFA - 8
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      Raymond, Lucas
      $925,000
      RW, LW
      RFA - 1
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      Bertuzzi, Tyler
      $4,750,000
      LW, RW
      UFA
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      Copp, Andrew
      $5,625,000
      C, LW, RW
      M-NTC
      UFA - 4
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      Perron, David
      $4,750,000
      RW, LW
      M-NTC
      UFA - 1
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      Rasmussen, Michael
      $1,460,000
      C, LW
      RFA - 1
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      Kasper, Marco
      $950,000
      C
      RFA - 2
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      Söderblom, Elmer
      $878,333
      LW, C
      RFA - 2
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      Kubalik, Dominik
      $2,500,000
      LW, RW
      UFA - 1
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      Zadina, Filip
      $1,825,000
      RW, LW
      RFA - 2
      Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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      Walman, Jake
      $3,000,000
      LD
      UFA - 3
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      Seider, Moritz
      $863,333
      RD
      RFA - 1
      Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
      Husso, Ville
      $4,750,000
      G
      M-NTC
      UFA - 2
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      Määttä, Olli
      $2,750,000
      LD
      UFA - 2
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      Hronek, Filip
      $4,400,000
      RD
      RFA - 1
      Lankinen, Kevin
      $1,500,000
      G
      UFA - 1
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      Edvinsson, Simon
      $925,000
      LD
      RFA - 2
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      Durzi, Sean
      $1,700,000
      LD/RD
      RFA - 1
      Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
      Johansson, Albert
      $820,000
      LD
      RFA - 1

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      Jan. 27 at 5:34 p.m.
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      NickC1988
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      "I'll take 'Things Stevie Y would never do' for $1,000 Alex."

      Horvat's year is not sustainable, Yzerman doesn't overpay for players, ever (See Stamkos in Tampa). I don't think there's a chance any of this happens.
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      Jan. 27 at 5:34 p.m.
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      ArakinSkywalker
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      I mean if colorado landed larkin in a trade i'm sure they would make the cap work the next season by moving some other players
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      Jan. 27 at 5:35 p.m.
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      Kings decline. Chiarot is nothing of interest and the Kings have no need for any more forwards.
      Jan. 27 at 5:38 p.m.
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      Quoting: NickC1988
      "I'll take 'Things Stevie Y would never do' for $1,000 Alex."

      Horvat's year is not sustainable, Yzerman doesn't overpay for players, ever (See Stamkos in Tampa). I don't think there's a chance any of this happens.


      except for Chiarot, Ned, Copp

      Killorn, TJohnson, Gourde
      Jan. 27 at 5:39 p.m.
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      Quoting: McSorley
      Kings decline. Chiarot is nothing of interest and the Kings have no need for any more forwards.


      both teams decline
      Jan. 27 at 5:39 p.m.
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      Quoting: NickC1988
      "I'll take 'Things Stevie Y would never do' for $1,000 Alex."

      Horvat's year is not sustainable, Yzerman doesn't overpay for players, ever (See Stamkos in Tampa). I don't think there's a chance any of this happens.


      99.999999999999999999999% of AGMs on this website never happen. Do you comment on all of them?
      Jan. 27 at 5:41 p.m.
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      NickC1988
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      Quoting: OldBoisClubSandwich
      except for Chiarot, Ned, Copp

      Killorn, TJohnson, Gourde


      Of that list the two true overpays I see are Johnson and Gourde.
      Jan. 27 at 5:41 p.m.
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      NickC1988
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      Quoting: Bannedforlife
      99.999999999999999999999% of AGMs on this website never happen. Do you comment on all of them?

      No I don't comment on all of them. Do you?
      Jan. 27 at 5:42 p.m.
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      Quoting: McSorley
      Kings decline. Chiarot is nothing of interest and the Kings have no need for any more forwards.


      Kings need LDs and Wings need RDs. Natural trade partners. The chances of something happening are significantly higher than you think.
      Jan. 27 at 5:43 p.m.
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      Quoting: ArakinSkywalker
      I mean if colorado landed larkin in a trade i'm sure they would make the cap work the next season by moving some other players


      For $9,5000,000 and above, Yeah good luck with that.
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      Jan. 27 at 5:43 p.m.
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      Quoting: NickC1988
      No I don't comment on all of them. Do you?


      Nope. So why are you here?
      Jan. 27 at 5:44 p.m.
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      NickC1988
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      Quoting: Bannedforlife
      Nope. So why are you here?


      Same reason you are, to look at Armchair GMs. What are you, the gatekeeper?
      Jan. 27 at 5:44 p.m.
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      Quoting: ArakinSkywalker
      I mean if colorado landed larkin in a trade i'm sure they would make the cap work the next season by moving some other players


      Hard to see how they could realistically without utterly gutting the team. You pretty much guarantee you lost Girard, EJ, E-Rod, JTC for starters plus probably Toews the next year. I'd rather have a team than Larkin as much as I rate him very highly. It's arguably worse than a Horvat scenario for the Avs.
      Jan. 27 at 5:48 p.m.
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      Pasta ain't worth anything close to $13M
      Jan. 27 at 5:49 p.m.
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      Quoting: OldBoisClubSandwich
      except for Chiarot, Ned, Copp

      Killorn, TJohnson, Gourde


      Almost none of those are overpays
      Jan. 27 at 5:49 p.m.
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      Quoting: NickC1988
      Same reason you are, to look at Armchair GMs. What are you, the gatekeeper?


      No, i don't waste my time commeting on things that I think are ridiculous. I just laugh and move on. How's your job search going?
      Jan. 27 at 5:51 p.m.
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      NickC1988
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      Quoting: Bannedforlife
      No, i don't waste my time commeting on things that I think are ridiculous. I just laugh and move on. How's your job search going?


      Not everyone has to be like you. Have a nice weekend, champ.
      Jan. 27 at 5:52 p.m.
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      Quoting: NickC1988
      Not everyone has to be like you. Have a nice weekend, champ.


      You too ✌️
      Jan. 27 at 5:56 p.m.
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      Quoting: Datsyukian13
      Pasta ain't worth anything close to $13M


      That's why I paid him $13m. To get him to come here while we have cap space to spare. Trade lesser players when the time comes to sign our young core.
      Jan. 27 at 6:10 p.m.
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      Quoting: Bannedforlife
      Kings need LDs and Wings need RDs. Natural trade partners. The chances of something happening are significantly higher than you think.


      The only way LA considers taking on Chiarot is if Detroit retains at least $1.75M. At that point, I'd do Chiarot + 2nd for Durzi. Detroit can keep Zadina.
      Jan. 27 at 6:58 p.m.
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      This would never happen from a DET perspective
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      Jan. 27 at 10:36 p.m.
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      Quoting: tkecanuck341
      The only way LA considers taking on Chiarot is if Detroit retains at least $1.75M. At that point, I'd do Chiarot + 2nd for Durzi. Detroit can keep Zadina.


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      Jan. 28 at 12:53 p.m.
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      These trades are not good for Detroit.
       
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