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Avs doing a Kucherov

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Team: 2022-23 Colorado Avalanche
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 31, 2023
Published: Jan. 31, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Landy on LTIR until playoffs. Pretty unrealistic but yeah...
Trades
1.
COL
  1. Sundqvist, Oskar ($1,375,000 retained)
DET
  1. Ranta, Sampo
  2. 2023 5th round pick (COL)
2.
COL
  1. Tarasenko, Vladimir ($3,250,000 retained)
STL
  1. Beaucage, Alex
  2. 2023 1st round pick (COL)
  3. 2024 4th round pick (COL)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$81,427,500$25,000$3,562,500$1,072,500
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
LW, C
NMC
UFA - 7
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$6,300,000$6,300,000
C
NMC
UFA - 1
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$500,000$500,000
RW
NTC
UFA - 1
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$6,125,000$6,125,000
RW, LW
NMC
UFA - 8
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$9,250,000$9,250,000
RW, C
UFA - 3
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 5
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$908,333$908,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C, LW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$2,000,000$2,000,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$1,050,000$1,050,000
RW, LW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$850,000$850,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$1,375,000$1,375,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,100,000$4,100,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
RD
UFA - 5
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
G
UFA - 3
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
LD/RD
RFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$4,500,000$4,500,000
RD
NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$2,000,000$2,000,000
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 5
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$912,500$912,500 (Performance Bonus$212,500$212K)
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$987,500$987,500
LD/RD, LW
UFA - 2

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Jan. 31, 2023 at 5:10 a.m.
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Miss YA Killer
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Worry about making the playoffs
Jan. 31, 2023 at 5:10 a.m.
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It's like having 10,000 wingers when all you need is a center
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Jan. 31, 2023 at 5:23 a.m.
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Detroit declines.

Ranta is eligible for waivers next season and we don't have a roster spot for him. Detroit would have to waive Ranta and that would make this offer a terrible deal for us.

If you want Sundqvist with retention it'll cost you a 2nd and a 3rd, both in '23. Since you don't have any we'd accept a 1st in '24.
Jan. 31, 2023 at 5:29 a.m.
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Your title has the maturity of a 2 year old. Correction I need to apologize for insulting 2 year olds everywhere
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Jan. 31, 2023 at 6:05 a.m.
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Quoting: Boltsbeathabs
Your title has the maturity of a 2 year old. Correction I need to apologize for insulting 2 year olds everywhere


Pulling a Kucherov is a thing, whether you like it or not.
Jan. 31, 2023 at 6:37 a.m.
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The Avs might want to address the elephant in the room instead of looking at wingers.
Jan. 31, 2023 at 7:48 a.m.
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Quoting: evelutions2
The Avs might want to address the elephant in the room instead of looking at wingers.

What’s that? That they have played basically the entire season missing at least 2 top 6 forwards and 2 top 4 dmen at all times? Or are you doing a shallow surface dive saying they need a center when they have Compher and Rodrigues both producing at 50 pt levels and Newhook who’s game is really starting to come around?
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Jan. 31, 2023 at 7:56 a.m.
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Quoting: Billy12Bob
Detroit declines.

Ranta is eligible for waivers next season and we don't have a roster spot for him. Detroit would have to waive Ranta and that would make this offer a terrible deal for us.

If you want Sundqvist with retention it'll cost you a 2nd and a 3rd, both in '23. Since you don't have any we'd accept a 1st in '24.


Lmfao this made me laugh, a 1st for Sundqvist? Why do people on here act like every team gets 3 1sts? So far the players fans expect a 1st for are:

ROR
Tarasenko
Gostisbhere
Kane
Gavrikov
Bertuzzi
Henrique
Chychrun
Gostisbhere
Meier
Anderson
Edmundson
Dumba
Mayfield
Sundqvist

and theres more im forgetting lol. No way all those guys get 1sts
Jan. 31, 2023 at 8:02 a.m.
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Quoting: Boltsbeathabs
For people with the maturity of 2 year olds absolutely it is. Says all that's needed to be said about you.


Errr what? You seem to be taking this oddly personally. Landeskog is expected back late this season. If that date gets pushed and they play with LTIR space, the most notable comparisons are Kucherov and Kane. It’s reality and isn’t a big deal, no need to be a baby.
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Jan. 31, 2023 at 8:29 a.m.
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Quoting: howmuchcurrycanyoueat
Lmfao this made me laugh, a 1st for Sundqvist? Why do people on here act like every team gets 3 1sts? So far the players fans expect a 1st for are:

ROR
Tarasenko
Gostisbhere
Kane
Gavrikov
Bertuzzi
Henrique
Chychrun
Gostisbhere
Meier
Anderson
Edmundson
Dumba
Mayfield
Sundqvist

and theres more im forgetting lol. No way all those guys get 1sts


Jarnkrok got a second, third and seventh last season and he could be a comparable player. I think a second would be a reasonable ask for Sunny and since they don't have one this draft a guy can always ask for a first next year, doesn't mean that it is expected.
Jan. 31, 2023 at 8:33 a.m.
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Quoting: Boltsbeathabs
For people with the maturity of 2 year olds absolutely it is. Says all that's needed to be said about you.


lmao why do you take this so personally. it’s pretty well-established and accepted by everybody that it was active cap circumvention by the Bolts. it got you the cup, just accept it and move on lol
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Jan. 31, 2023 at 9:24 a.m.
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Quoting: howmuchcurrycanyoueat
Lmfao this made me laugh, a 1st for Sundqvist? Why do people on here act like every team gets 3 1sts? So far the players fans expect a 1st for are:

ROR
Tarasenko
Gostisbhere
Kane
Gavrikov
Bertuzzi
Henrique
Chychrun
Gostisbhere
Meier
Anderson
Edmundson
Dumba
Mayfield
Sundqvist

and theres more im forgetting lol. No way all those guys get 1sts


Where did I say that Sundqvist would get a first?

We're talking about Sundqvist WITH RETENTION. Retentions don't come for free, especially not from a team that only has two retention slots and 12 players on expiring contracts.

There is no way that Detroit uses one of their only two retention slots unless the return makes it worth it. We don't have to trade Sunny, it's not like he's being shopped.
Jan. 31, 2023 at 9:58 a.m.
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I think wings pass, prob worth a 3rd at this point
Jan. 31, 2023 at 11:08 a.m.
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Where did I say that Sundqvist would get a first?

We're talking about Sundqvist WITH RETENTION. Retentions don't come for free, especially not from a team that only has two retention slots and 12 players on expiring contracts.

There is no way that Detroit uses one of their only two retention slots unless the return makes it worth it. We don't have to trade Sunny, it's not like he's being shopped.


Lmao what difference does it make. With the cap the way it is, retentions are pretty much a given lol. Also, by the time the deadline comes, you're barely paying any of the salary even if you retain half. Retaining 1.375M at the deadline might get you an extra 6th rounder seeing as how retaining 2M+ has costed 4th/5th rounders in the past, Sundqvist + 6th does not equal a 1st lol.
Jan. 31, 2023 at 11:10 a.m.
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Quoting: Lancebmx
Jarnkrok got a second, third and seventh last season and he could be a comparable player. I think a second would be a reasonable ask for Sunny and since they don't have one this draft a guy can always ask for a first next year, doesn't mean that it is expected.


Thats LAST YEAR, the supply of forwards available was far worse and the draft was worse. The prices paid last year aren't comparables lol. Nobody is paying up a 1st for Sundqvist or even a 2nd + 3rd, when theres so many better forwards available this year.
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Jan. 31, 2023 at 11:18 a.m.
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Quoting: howmuchcurrycanyoueat
Lmao what difference does it make. With the cap the way it is, retentions are pretty much a given lol. Also, by the time the deadline comes, you're barely paying any of the salary even if you retain half. Retaining 1.375M at the deadline might get you an extra 6th rounder seeing as how retaining 2M+ has costed 4th/5th rounders in the past, Sundqvist + 6th does not equal a 1st lol.


I don't give a flying **** if it's 50c or 50 billion! No team is allowed more than three retentions at any one time and Detroit have already used one slot (on Páník). We have 12 players on expiring contracts and are going to use the only two retention slots on the players that gives the best return and that ain't Sundqvist.

The amount of the retention is utterly irrelevant!
Jan. 31, 2023 at 11:25 a.m.
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Quoting: Billy12Bob
I don't give a flying **** if it's 50c or 50 billion! No team is allowed more than three retentions at any one time and Detroit have already used one slot (on Páník). We have 12 players on expiring contracts and are going to use the only two retention slots on the players that gives the best return and that ain't Sundqvist.

The amount of the retention is utterly irrelevant!


Who else would you retain on this year?
Jan. 31, 2023 at 2:52 p.m.
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Quoting: Billy12Bob
I don't give a flying **** if it's 50c or 50 billion! No team is allowed more than three retentions at any one time and Detroit have already used one slot (on Páník). We have 12 players on expiring contracts and are going to use the only two retention slots on the players that gives the best return and that ain't Sundqvist.

The amount of the retention is utterly irrelevant!


bro sundqvist is simply not good enough for the Wings to command that. if a team calls Yzerman and say "what's the price for Sundqvist with retention" and he says "a 1st round pick" they'd just move on to the next guy
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