Montreal doesn't retain anything on Anderson's contract for that return

400k to each of the piece's? I don't see why not.. but ok

EDM says no lol

EDM passes on the first two trades, ARZ says no.

Overpay for Domi

This is a massive overpay. Dude is 28 years old on pace for 28 points this year with 5 years left at a $5.5M cap hit whose best NHL years are definitely behind him. MTL fans are WAAAYYYY too high on him. MTL would be lucky to NOT have to pay to dump his contract. This is just me being honest and not trying to be mean or snotty. I'm sorry. Bad contracts suck. But it is what it is.

It's all good, I don't agree his best years are behind I got the receipt on your statement...let's see who's right, consider him in buntings spot or hymans spot, you don't think he can be as valuable as those guys? I do just based on his game but you have your view of him and I have mine so we'll see..

From a Hawks fan? Lol alright then.. just too honest I see.

Too much for first two trades for Oilers and then not even close for Chuyrchun

Domi is worth a 2nd round pick, MAYBE a 1st if the market really heats up for him.

At the end of the day looking closer at EDM lineup, I like the guys I brought in more but everyone I traded is pretty good so if they keep them plus the picks considering last year they could still get to the Cup and the best player in the world having his best year of his career, goaltending is very suspect maybe they'll just add Domi cheap or another tough player or 2 but Evander, hyman, nurse are pretty tough...Leafs vs Oilers in the cup final, I think I can see it now lol cheers.

Oh ok I see, well Horvat got a protected 1st plus a roster player and a prospect, Domi getting a first I think that's as likely as walking past an iceberg in the Australian outback but I like Domi a lot too I'd say a second and a player could be offered.

Look... these guys are all the best in the world or else they wouldn't be in the NHL, and I'd be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt that he can play better in the right situation. But it is too risky to give up so much for him, especially with that contract. I'm not sure how anyone can look at him, his stats, and his contract, and not have a bunch of red flags popping up. Maybe that's just me though.

Garak I knew you would back out on your claim, I knew it!

Just kidding, yeah I got you and like I have been proven wrong for sure by an nhler that has skill, will, ability.

No like I'm saying I just see Anderson capable of being strong with a veteran team, just seems like that guy to me.

I don't think you're off on your assessment just looking for a challenge...man he could fall off the wagon, never know but can we get to the playoffs already well to march 3rd...enjoy the ASG if you're checking it out I've been barely entertained in the new age divisional scrimmage and everything but got to wait how many days to even see Horvat suit up for the isle...

Cheers tho.

lol. I'm not backing out. I am just giving the benefit of the doubt. But I still see red flags and a massive overpay, that contract is just really hard to get past. But stranger things have happened, and changes of scenery/chemistry can have huge impacts on play. I wouldn't quite say him and Dickinson are comparable, but I was ready for Dickinson to be absolute garbage after VAN dumped him to CHI, and he has turned out to be one of my favorite players in CHI this season.

Cheers

MTL fans aren't even that high in him, we just go by what experts and insiders tell us and that's that NHL GMs value Anderson. Why? Who knows but speed and size are two attributes that's GMs tend to over value. They're also the only two attributes that JA has.

It's five more years of retention, which MTL isn't going to do. Id be happy to unload him for a 1st but it's been widely reported that Hughes already turned down that offer.

So we're left believing that it takes this package without retention for him, with that much retention you're likely adding.

Does it make sense? No

Have NHL GMs always over valued big players that skate fast in a straight line? Yes

Can you cite references? Because, I follow a lot of beat writers, scouts, and experts, with and without bias from all over the NHL, and none of them talk about guys like Anderson, Edmundson, or Dvorak being worth 1st round picks. In fact, I rarely see anyone that isn't from MTL talk about them at all. The most I usually see about them is that their contracts could complicate things for MTL in the near future. I think there might be an over saturation of beat writers in MTL that are creating an echo chamber that is giving different information than fans from most of the rest of the league are getting.

I mean, if Hughes wants to hold onto them that badly, fine. But I would think he'd be eager to create cap space if there was actually any interest. But Idk... Maybe I'm missing something. Also, I actually like them as players, it is mainly their contracts that create all the risk, IMO. I'm a pretty firm believer that most players, if they made it to the NHL, and if given the right opportunities, and if they find the right chemistry, can find success in the NHL. Risk is the name of the game, though.

Lebrun has linked Anderson to the Devils, Frank Serivalle ( I don't think that's how you spell his last name) has brought Anderson up in trade talks a couple times, Elliot Friedman has talked about it on his podcast in the summer and just a couple weeks ago. They've all basically said the same thing, confirming Hughes has turned down offers for a 1st but nothing beyond that.

Edmundson is just Habs fans thinking they can pull a Chariot like return again.

Dvorak I haven't heard anything about in a while, guessing it's because of his down turn the past 4 months and the cap not going up.

Personally don't think you see any of the three move this season, off season is far more likely, teams don't have much cap room right now, MTL included. MTL would be smarter to wait till then anyways, they'll have a bunch of cap space cleared this off season and all three retention spots open to maneuver.

Yeah. I mean, if they can get 2023 picks they should be wheeling in dealing, but otherwise they shouldn't be in any rush QUITE yet. Also, they might be able to squeak through the next handful of years of cap increases and turn out alright.