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Interesting 5 way trade

Created by: bliker
Team: 2022-23 Los Angeles Kings
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 31, 2023
Published: Jan. 31, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Net effects for each team (read the math before commenting plz):

VAN: Replaces 1A G with 1B G, Replaces 2W with 1C, gains 2nd rd pick
STL: Replaces 1C with 2C and 2W, gains 1M cap space
SJS: Replaces expiring 1W with expiring 2W, gains 1st + 2nd rd picks
NJD: Replaces 2C and 2W with 1W, loses 2nd rd pick
LAK: Replaces 1B G with 1A G, loses 1st + 2nd rd picks
Trades
1.
LAK
  1. Boeser, Brock ($2,650,000 retained)
  2. Demko, Thatcher
VAN
2.
3.
4.
LAK
  1. Haula, Erik
  2. Tatar, Tomas
  3. 2023 1st round pick (NJD)
  4. 2023 2nd round pick (NJD)
NJD
5.
6.
LAK
NJD
  1. Meier, Timo
  2. 2023 1st round pick (LAK)
7.
LAK
VAN
  1. O'Reilly, Ryan
  2. Petersen, Cal
  3. 2023 2nd round pick (LAK)
8.
LAK
SJS
  1. Tatar, Tomas
  2. 2023 1st round pick (NJD)
  3. 2023 2nd round pick (NJD)
Buyouts
Termination Fees
Buried
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$82,500,000$79,204,167$637,500$4,162,500$3,295,833
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 4
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$10,000,000$10,000,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$2,650,000$3M)
LW, C
RFA - 2
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
C
NMC
UFA - 5
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$4,250,000$4,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
RW, LW
UFA - 7
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$1,675,000$1,675,000
C
RFA - 2
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$825,000$825,000
RW, C
RFA - 1
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$1,350,000$1,350,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$350,000$350K)
C, LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
C, LW, RW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$11,000,000$11,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
UFA - 4
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$3,150,000$3,150,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$2,900,000$2,900,000
G
UFA - 1
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$262,500$262K)
LD
RFA - 1
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$2,650,000$2,650,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$750,000$750,000 (Performance Bonus$750,000$750K)
LD
NMC
UFA - 1
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$1,875,000$1,875,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,300,000$1,300,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$150,000$150K)
RW, LW
RFA - 2

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Jan. 31, 2023 at 4:34 p.m.
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So if I'm following correctly, LA moves Petersen's contract, a first and a second and gets Demko? Sounds pretty good
Jan. 31, 2023 at 4:34 p.m.
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Not sure why the Blues would want to add Salary and players at this time.

Would be much better off just selling ROR for futures.

Boeser's contract complicates things down the road when Buchnevich will need a raise.
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Jan. 31, 2023 at 4:35 p.m.
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So SJ gives up Timo and gets a 32 year old UFA who is putting up 3rd line numbers? Come on, this is silly.
Jan. 31, 2023 at 4:35 p.m.
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This is terrible
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Jan. 31, 2023 at 4:38 p.m.
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San Jose moves Timo for a 1st, 2nd and Tatar? Add Luke Hughes or Byfield and sure
Jan. 31, 2023 at 4:40 p.m.
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The Kings aren't giving up their 1st round pick this year in exchange for a goaltender who is injured and was playing poorly this season before he went down. If their pick is contingent on some Demko performance metric, then maybe the Kings would do it, but in that case it would likely need to be the 2024 1st to give Demko time to fulfill the condition.
Jan. 31, 2023 at 4:45 p.m.
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Blues decline. If we are trading ROR it will be for picks and prospects. Not another roster player
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Jan. 31, 2023 at 4:53 p.m.
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Quoting: stephane_robidas
So if I'm following correctly, LA moves Petersen's contract, a first and a second and gets Demko? Sounds pretty good


Historically, a 1st + 2nd/3rd has been the price for an equivalent salaried goalie swap with an imbalance.

Quoting: AC14
Not sure why the Blues would want to add Salary and players at this time.

Would be much better off just selling ROR for futures.

Boeser's contract complicates things down the road when Buchnevich will need a raise.


Quoting: Tennisman142
Blues decline. If we are trading ROR it will be for picks and prospects. Not another roster player


This is valid. I thought the Blues want a bit more depth (also Boeser is part retained), but if not completely understandable.

Quoting: sleeparc
So SJ gives up Timo and gets a 32 year old UFA who is putting up 3rd line numbers? Come on, this is silly.


Quoting: glarson17
San Jose moves Timo for a 1st, 2nd and Tatar? Add Luke Hughes or Byfield and sure


Meier is on an expiring contract and so far hasn't shown signs of resigning- that significantly drops his value. Tatar can replace him for this season, which improves their lottery odds and brings a veteran in. Historically, the price for a high-skill winger rental (Meier) has been a mid-tier roster replacement, a first, and a second. This is in line with that.
Jan. 31, 2023 at 5:04 p.m.
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Quoting: bliker
Historically, a 1st + 2nd/3rd has been the price for an equivalent salaried goalie swap with an imbalance.


I'm curious to know which team has given up a 1st round pick and more for a goaltender in the salary cap era and ended up happy with the trade. I can think of exactly one example ever and it involved a decent amount of salary retention.
Jan. 31, 2023 at 5:12 p.m.
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Quoting: bliker
Historically, a 1st + 2nd/3rd has been the price for an equivalent salaried goalie swap with an imbalance.





This is valid. I thought the Blues want a bit more depth (also Boeser is part retained), but if not completely understandable.





Meier is on an expiring contract and so far hasn't shown signs of resigning- that significantly drops his value. Tatar can replace him for this season, which improves their lottery odds and brings a veteran in. Historically, the price for a high-skill winger rental (Meier) has been a mid-tier roster replacement, a first, and a second. This is in line with that.


I think your a little confused, Meier is rfa so he’s a shark whether he wants to be or not. That doesn’t change his value at all. Grier has also allowed teams to talk extension so that only increases his value.
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Jan. 31, 2023 at 5:31 p.m.
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So the Canucks are giving up

Thatcher Demko
Brock Boeser, and retaining 2.65 for 3 seasons

for

A 2nd round pick
An atrocious goaltender on 3x$5
An expiring 31 year old C




What benefit is there to the Canucks to do this? This is awful...

And for some reason you're giving NJ a 1st back? So they're essentially trading Haula, Tatar, and a 2nd for Meier lmao?


Canucks are beyond uninterested.
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Jan. 31, 2023 at 10:24 p.m.
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Quoting: bliker
Historically, a 1st + 2nd/3rd has been the price for an equivalent salaried goalie swap with an imbalance.


Timo is an RFA. That is not the same as an expiring contract. His signing rights are still reserved. Regardless that doesn't effect his value very much. You're one of the few who doesn't understand this. Get on board.


This is valid. I thought the Blues want a bit more depth (also Boeser is part retained), but if not completely understandable.





Meier is on an expiring contract and so far hasn't shown signs of resigning- that significantly drops his value. Tatar can replace him for this season, which improves their lottery odds and brings a veteran in. Historically, the price for a high-skill winger rental (Meier) has been a mid-tier roster replacement, a first, and a second. This is in line with that.
Feb. 1, 2023 at 6:04 a.m.
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Including Tatar in a Meier deal kind defeats the purpose in the Devils acquiring Meier.
Tatar has been stupid good this year and I don't see why the Sharks would be interested in acquiring a 32 year old pending UFA.
Rather just replace Tatar with a prospect like Mukhammadulin or Casey.
Feb. 1, 2023 at 11:59 a.m.
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Quoting: glarson17
I think your a little confused, Meier is rfa so he’s a shark whether he wants to be or not. That doesn’t change his value at all. Grier has also allowed teams to talk extension so that only increases his value.


Yes that would explain the confusion lol
 
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