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Team: 2022-23 Boston Bruins
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 31, 2023
Published: Jan. 31, 2023
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Trades
1.
CGY
  1. Carlo, Brandon
  2. DiPietro, Michael
  3. Smith, Craig
  4. 2023 3rd round pick (BOS)
  5. 2024 3rd round pick (BOS)
2.
BOS
  1. Athanasiou, Andreas ($1,500,000 retained)
  2. McCabe, Jake ($1,000,000 retained)
CHI
  1. Reilly, Mike
  2. 2023 1st round pick (BOS)
3.
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2023
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22$82,500,000$72,295,834$0$4,950,000$10,204,166
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$1,000,000$1,000,000 (Performance Bonus$2,000,000$2M)
C
NTC
UFA - 1
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$6,666,667$6,666,667
RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
C, RW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$3,800,000$3,800,000
LW, C, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$1,050,000$1,050,000
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$891,667$891,667 (Performance Bonus$300,000$300K)
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UFA - 2
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
LD
NTC, NMC
UFA - 8
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$9,500,000$9,500,000
RD
UFA - 8
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3
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$1,237,500$1,237,500
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$150,000$150K)
G
RFA - 1
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
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Jan. 31, 2023 at 7:14 p.m.
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Flames decline.
Jan. 31, 2023 at 7:19 p.m.
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Canucks hard pass. They'd rather trade Schenn for a pick and keep Hoglander than do something like this.
Jan. 31, 2023 at 7:19 p.m.
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Every move here makes the bruins worse.

You’re replacing half the D group for a team that is on pace to set the NHL record for most wins, and has the lowest goals against average in the NHL by a ridiculous margin. The gap between the bruins and the second place stars is the same as the gap between the second place stars and the 16th place Kraken.

Why?
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Jan. 31, 2023 at 7:20 p.m.
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Canucks hard pass. They'd rather trade Schenn for a pick and keep Hoglander than do something like this.

Unless you’re still under the impression that hoglander is going to be something special (if so, why), Grzelcyk has triple the value of the package coming back.
Jan. 31, 2023 at 7:26 p.m.
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Every move here makes the bruins worse.

You’re replacing half the D group for a team that is on pace to set the NHL record for most wins, and has the lowest goals against average in the NHL by a ridiculous margin. The gap between the bruins and the second place stars is the same as the gap between the second place stars and the 16th place Kraken.

Why?

Bruins D has gotten pushed around each of the last 4 playoff exits. Gotta get bigger.
Jan. 31, 2023 at 7:27 p.m.
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Unless you’re still under the impression that hoglander is going to be something special (if so, why), Grzelcyk has triple the value of the package coming back.


Explain to me why the Canucks would be interested in adding a 29 year old LHD making 3,687,500 for another year, when they have Hughes and OEL on the books?

It's not about the value of Grzelyck, it's that it makes zero sense for the Canucks to add him.
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Jan. 31, 2023 at 7:56 p.m.
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Hawks decline. The 1st probably gets McCabe w/ retention, but AA w/ retention costs at least a 3rd, and Reilly is a cap dump as far as the Hawks are concerned, so he costs something to get rid of as well
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Jan. 31, 2023 at 8:06 p.m.
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Explain to me why the Canucks would be interested in adding a 29 year old LHD making 3,687,500 for another year, when they have Hughes and OEL on the books?

It's not about the value of Grzelyck, it's that it makes zero sense for the Canucks to add him.


Flip him for a ton of futures. Easy.
Jan. 31, 2023 at 8:08 p.m.
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Bruins D has gotten pushed around each of the last 4 playoff exits. Gotta get bigger.


You traded their biggest d man.

This is just horrible. Team destroying moves.
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Jan. 31, 2023 at 8:37 p.m.
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Flip him for a ton of futures. Easy.


If that was do-able, wouldn't Boston already have done that? This feels like a "flip Kerfoot for a 2nd" that Toronto fans have suggested forever. I don't think Grz carries that type of value on his contract, and just don't see the Canucks risking it. They'll keep Hog and flip Schenn for futures.
Jan. 31, 2023 at 8:41 p.m.
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If that was do-able, wouldn't Boston already have done that? This feels like a "flip Kerfoot for a 2nd" that Toronto fans have suggested forever. I don't think Grz carries that type of value on his contract, and just don't see the Canucks risking it. They'll keep Hog and flip Schenn for futures.

The bruins wouldn’t do it because they want grzelcyk.

Top four d men in their 20s under contract for three years under four million have a lot of value
Jan. 31, 2023 at 8:44 p.m.
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These are never happening. Team just became a 1st/2nd round out.
Jan. 31, 2023 at 8:47 p.m.
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The bruins wouldn’t do it because they want grzelcyk.

Top four d men in their 20s under contract for three years under four million have a lot of value


I've always like Grzelyck, but dmen slow down in their 30s, so I don't think he's got as much value moving forward into his 30s. He also is now a bottom pair guy in BOS (6th in ATOI), and was 5th among dmen on BOS last year (not counting Vaakanainen ofcourse). Doesn't PK, and is now off the PP as well.

Enjoy him and his value, I support the Bruins and Grzelyck partnership nod Don't think anyone would be giving up tons of futures for him.
Jan. 31, 2023 at 8:49 p.m.
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I've always like Grzelyck, but dmen slow down in their 30s, so I don't think he's got as much value moving forward into his 30s. He also is now a bottom pair guy in BOS (6th in ATOI), and was 5th among dmen on BOS last year (not counting Vaakanainen ofcourse). Doesn't PK, and is now off the PP as well.

Enjoy him and his value, I support the Bruins and Grzelyck partnership nod Don't think anyone would be giving up tons of futures for him.


He plays with mcavoy. Is he a 3rd pair guy?
Jan. 31, 2023 at 8:53 p.m.
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He plays with mcavoy. Is he a 3rd pair guy?


Does he? Is his ATOI just so low because he's not on any special teams anymore?

I wish him the best of luck in Boston, a good fit there then. Most teams need their top 4 dmen to PP or PK, not often you can ice a dman who does neither. Boston is perfect for him.
Jan. 31, 2023 at 8:54 p.m.
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He plays with mcavoy. Is he a 3rd pair guy?


Luke Schenn plays with Quinn Hughes. Is he a 7/8 D?
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Jan. 31, 2023 at 8:56 p.m.
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Does he? Is his ATOI just so low because he's not on any special teams anymore?

I wish him the best of luck in Boston, a good fit there then. Most teams need their top 4 dmen to PP or PK, not often you can ice a dman who does neither. Boston is perfect for him.


It’s actually really common. Usually top pair d men take pp duties, bottom pair guys take the bulk of the short handed duties. Being behind Charlie mcavoy and hampus lindholm isn’t a reflection on the player (also, the bruins do a good amount of five forward power plays)
Jan. 31, 2023 at 8:59 p.m.
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Luke Schenn plays with Quinn Hughes. Is he a 7/8 D?


No, he’s a 5.

But to your point, is it successful? No. Mcavoy and grzelcyk have been one of the best d pairs in the league over the last three seasons
Jan. 31, 2023 at 9:01 p.m.
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It’s actually really common. Usually top pair d men take pp duties, bottom pair guys take the bulk of the short handed duties. Being behind Charlie mcavoy and hampus lindholm isn’t a reflection on the player (also, the bruins do a good amount of five forward power plays)


Oh, it is actually really common?

How many of them are there?
Jan. 31, 2023 at 9:09 p.m.
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Oh, it is actually really common?

How many of them are there?


Most teams have a top four d man that isn’t a big special teams contributor.

Wanna hear something fun: for all d pairs that that have played 500 minutes over the past three seasons, mcavoy and grzelcyk rank first in most categories, both real and expected. Is mcavoy just that good, or are you maybe not giving grzelcyk enough credit?
Jan. 31, 2023 at 9:13 p.m.
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Most teams have a top four d man that isn’t a big special teams contributor.

Wanna hear something fun: for all d pairs that that have played 500 minutes over the past three seasons, mcavoy and grzelcyk rank first in most categories, both real and expected. Is mcavoy just that good, or are you maybe not giving grzelcyk enough credit?


I already said I like Grz, but honestly, I do think most of that is McAvoy. I think he's been a top 3 dman in the league over that period.

Also, I'd love to hear some specific names on that "Most teams have a top four d man that isn’t a big special teams contributor."

I'm looking through teams right now and I haven't personally found a single one so far, but I haven't looked at every team. Which players and teams are you referring to?
Jan. 31, 2023 at 9:22 p.m.
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Most teams have a top four d man that isn’t a big special teams contributor.

Wanna hear something fun: for all d pairs that that have played 500 minutes over the past three seasons, mcavoy and grzelcyk rank first in most categories, both real and expected. Is mcavoy just that good, or are you maybe not giving grzelcyk enough credit?


Ok Ive checked the East, and the only other example of a guy averaging top 4 even strength minutes but averaging less than 1min in both PP and PK is Jacob Bernard-Docker, who played 13 games for the Sens but technically averaged a top 4 even strength TOI per game.

I'm not sure I'd classify him as a top 4 dman for Ottawa personally, but I'll give it to you anyways. That makes Grzelcyk and JBD in the East.

Did I miss anyone in the East you were talking about though? Excited to find the fifteen examples in the West that make it so "Most teams have a top four d man that isn’t a big special teams contributor."

Or.. is that just completely made up, not at all true, and it's an actual rarity that only a team like the Bruins can afford?
Jan. 31, 2023 at 9:30 p.m.
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I already said I like Grz, but honestly, I do think most of that is McAvoy. I think he's been a top 3 dman in the league over that period.

Also, I'd love to hear some specific names on that "Most teams have a top four d man that isn’t a big special teams contributor."

I'm looking through teams right now and I haven't personally found a single one so far, but I haven't looked at every team. Which players and teams are you referring to?


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Ok Ive checked the East, and the only other example of a guy averaging top 4 even strength minutes but averaging less than 1min in both PP and PK is Jacob Bernard-Docker, who played 13 games for the Sens but technically averaged a top 4 even strength TOI per game.

I'm not sure I'd classify him as a top 4 dman for Ottawa personally, but I'll give it to you anyways. That makes Grzelcyk and JBD in the East.

Did I miss anyone in the East you were talking about though? Excited to find the fifteen examples in the West that make it so "Most teams have a top four d man that isn’t a big special teams contributor."

Or.. is that just completely made up, not at all true, and it's an actual rarity that only a team like the Bruins can afford?


I’m not exactly in the mood to look through every team in the east - but I am watching the hurricanes game right now, so jalen chatfield. 2nd pair, no power play team, a distant fifth on the team in pk time

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Jan. 31, 2023 at 9:37 p.m.
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I’m not exactly in the mood to look through every team in the east - but I am watching the hurricanes game right now, so jalen chatfield. 2nd pair, no power play team, a distant fifth on the team in pk time


Are you, straight face, going to tell me that Jalen Chatfield, a man averaging under 14 all-situation minutes a game this season, should be considered a top 4 defenseman?

Let me be clear, he plays 13:45 a game.

Of those 13:45 minutes, exactly 1 minute is spent on the PK. So even if he was a top 4 dman, he would pass what I was looking for.

Grzelyck averages 30 seconds of PP a game, and 11 seconds of PK.

I was looking for anyone who plays top 4 even strength minutes for their team, and has under 1 minute in both PP and PK. I figured I was being generous by doubling Grz's PP time, honestly.

Anyways, that means Chatfield plays 12:45 minutes of non-PK time a game, and you are going to unironically try to sell me that he is a 2nd pairing defenseman. That he supplants one of Slavin (19:14 ES ATOI), Skjei (18:31), Pesce (18:15), and Burns (17:37) as one of Carolina's top four defensemen?
Jan. 31, 2023 at 9:39 p.m.
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Are you, straight face, going to tell me that Jalen Chatfield, a man averaging under 14 all-situation minutes a game this season, should be considered a top 4 defenseman?

Let me be clear, he plays 13:45 a game.

Of those 13:45 minutes, exactly 1 minute is spent on the PK. So even if he was a top 4 dman, he would pass what I was looking for.

Grzelyck averages 30 seconds of PP a game, and 11 seconds of PK.

I was looking for anyone who plays top 4 even strength minutes for their team, and has under 1 minute in both PP and PK. I figured I was being generous by doubling Grz's PP time, honestly.

Anyways, that means Chatfield plays 12:45 minutes of non-PK time a game, and you are going to unironically try to sell me that he is a 2nd pairing defenseman. That he supplants one of Slavin (19:14 ES ATOI), Skjei (18:31), Pesce (18:15), and Burns (17:37) as one of Carolina's top four defensemen?


Oh so you don’t care what actual pair they play on? Than that Washington guy I mentioned. There ya go!
 
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