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MN Wild-Seller Deadline

Created by: gottscc
Team: 2023-24 Minnesota Wild
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 25, 2023
Published: Feb. 1, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
This is assuming the Wild continue to fall out of contention. All contracts are based off of The Athletics "Market Value" on its Player Cards.

Trade Deadline:
Dumba dealt to EDM (home) and signs extension there.
Hartman dealt for less than half of Brandon Hagel return CHI-TB at 21-22 deadline
Foligno dealt after BOS misses out on big fish at the deadline.
Goligoski waives NMC for another chance at the Cup
Reaves dealt for peanuts to anyone who wants him

Minnesota misses the playoffs so Brock Faber can't burn year one of two on his entry level

UFAs: Gaudreau only stays if deal is 2 years or less at $2.25milAAV or less (reportedly will take a team friendly deal)

RFAs: Addison, Gustavsson and Steel all sign bridge deals (Guesses on extensions. Hope for less AAV to gain flexibility).

2023 Free Agency: Sign 1-2 depth forwards and 1-2 depth defensemen to 1 yr/$1 mil or less deals

Coffers stocked with draft picks for Judd Brackett to maximize and cap sheet is clear at the end of Cap Hell with a projected $55 mil to spend after 2024-2025 season. Billy G can use the prospects to swing a big deal or make a splash in Free Agency 2025.
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
2$775,000
3$925,000
3$850,000
3$800,000
2$950,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$775,000
2$1,200,000
2$775,000
2$3,000,000
2$775,000
2$800,000
2$775,000
2$2,750,000
2$2,250,000
2$1,125,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$775,000
1$775,000
1$775,000
2$2,000,000
4$4,000,000
1$1,100,000
Trades
1.
MIN
  1. 2023 1st round pick (BOS)
  2. 2023 3rd round pick (BOS)
  3. 2023 6th round pick (BOS)
Additional Details:
TRADE DEALINE MOVE:
Craig Smith and Chris Wagner included to make money work when Debrusk comes back.
Acquiring Foligno for two year run at Cups
BOS
  1. Foligno, Marcus
Additional Details:
TRADE DEADLINE MOVE:
Minnesota flips Smith and Wager for a combined 3rd and 6th round picks to some other contenders (likely money retained).
2.
MIN
  1. 2023 4th round pick (WSH)
Additional Details:
TRADE DEADLINE MOVE:
Minnesota has option to defer pick 2024.
Pick can become 2024 3rd round pick if Goligoski meets certain (difficult) performance benchmarks

PIT, LAK, and SEA might be similar fits
3.
MIN
  1. 2023 2nd round pick (VGK)
  2. 2023 5th round pick (BUF)
Additional Details:
TRADE DEADLINE MOVE:
2023 2nd (VGK/BUF) determined by finish in standings.
If BUF misses playoffs, Wild receive lesser of 2023 2nd VGK/BUF pick.
If BUF, makes playoffs, Wild receive better of 2023 2nd VGK/BUF pick.
If BUF advances to Second Round, Wild receive 2023 2nd PHI pick.
If BUF advances to Conference Final, Wild receive 2023 1st round pick.

CAR seems to be another similar fit
4.
MIN
  1. Puljujärvi, Jesse [RFA Rights]
  2. 2023 1st round pick (EDM)
  3. 2023 3rd round pick (EDM)
Additional Details:
TRADE DEADLINE MOVE:
Dumba signs 4x$4mil Extension (EDM only place he might find his form)
EDM can move Barrie or Ceci in offseason to make space.
Buyouts
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$81,174,421$0$907,500$2,325,579

Roster

Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
LW
UFA - 3
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
C, LW
RFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
RW, LW
UFA - 7
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
C
RFA - 2
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$855,000$855,000 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
RW, LW
RFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
C, LW
UFA - 5
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
C
UFA - 6
$1,125,000$1,125,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
LW, C
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$2,450,000$2,450,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$7,575,000$7,575,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 4
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 5
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
G
UFA - 3
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$1,200,000$1,200,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$950,000$950,000
RD
RFA - 2
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
$1,100,000$1,100,000
LD
UFA - 3
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$762,500$762,500
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1

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Feb. 1, 2023 at 3:42 p.m.
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Quoting: drmantalban
As I said, you're entitled to your own opinion, but everything you just said is total conjecture.

And there are plenty of examples that disagree with you - Hagel, Foligno, Toffoli, Palmieri, Goodrow, Kase, Zucker, Mantha, Tatar, Stastny....


It’s also conjecture to assume bad deals made in the past would apply to this year’s deadline with your guys

But sure, i suppose it’s possible
We’ll just have to wait n see what happens


Just saw your revisions
Don’t think Greenway is getting u a conditional 1st either
Surely not from us
Feb. 1, 2023 at 3:57 p.m.
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Quoting: Buffalove
It’s also conjecture to assume bad deals made in the past would apply to this year’s deadline with your guys

But sure, i suppose it’s possible
We’ll just have to wait n see what happens


Just saw your revisions
Don’t think Greenway is getting u a conditional 1st either
Surely not from us


This isn't my post, I didn't revise anything and haven't said anything about Greenway.

You had said "not many teams trade 1sts for wingers"....so I gave you 10 examples of wingers being traded for 1sts. And now you're moving the goalpost on what was being argued.

I don't really care if you agree or disagree. You can believe whatever you want regarding Hartman's value. But you're stating your own opinion as if it's fact when it's verifiably not. That's all I was pointing out.
Feb. 1, 2023 at 4:05 p.m.
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Quoting: drmantalban
This isn't my post, I didn't revise anything and haven't said anything about Greenway.

You had said "not many teams trade 1sts for wingers"....so I gave you 10 examples of wingers being traded for 1sts. And now you're moving the goalpost on what was being argued.

I don't really care if you agree or disagree. You can believe whatever you want regarding Hartman's value. But you're stating your own opinion as if it's fact when it's verifiably not. That's all I was pointing out.


And Hartman isn’t nearly on the level of those guys
Again, 14points this year- that just doesn’t get you a 1st
And I’m not saying my opinion is fact

But again,
we’ll see who ends up being right & who ends up being wrong
Feb. 1, 2023 at 4:19 p.m.
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Quoting: Buffalove
And Hartman isn’t nearly on the level of those guys
Again, 14points this year- that just doesn’t get you a 1st
And I’m not saying my opinion is fact

But again,
we’ll see who ends up being right & who ends up being wrong


I would imagine we're both right in that he doesn't end up moving anywhere.

Hartman has 79 points over his last 108 games with an extremely favorable cap hit and a year of term remaining. You can spin in anyway you want, but those are the raw numbers. Until GMs stop trading 1sts for similar profile wingers, I have no reason to believe it won't continue.
Feb. 2, 2023 at 1:09 a.m.
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I accidentally commented and apparently I can't delete so I just edited my comment to this...
Feb. 2, 2023 at 11:30 a.m.
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Quoting: drmantalban
I would imagine we're both right in that he doesn't end up moving anywhere.

Hartman has 79 points over his last 108 games with an extremely favorable cap hit and a year of term remaining. You can spin in anyway you want, but those are the raw numbers. Until GMs stop trading 1sts for similar profile wingers, I have no reason to believe it won't continue.


Last year was a good season for him
But he hasn’t approached ANYTHING like that in ANY other season of his entire career

Last year was a clear exception,
and not what will determine his value
Feb. 2, 2023 at 12:06 p.m.
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Quoting: Buffalove
Last year was a good season for him
But he hasn’t approached ANYTHING like that in ANY other season of his entire career

Last year was a clear exception,
and not what will determine his value


That's just not the reality of the NHL, though. Outlier seasons impact players' value. Whether or not you believe they should is irrelevant, it is a verifiable fact that that they do.

I'm not saying his value is that of a 65 point player making 1.7M. If it was, he'd net a lot more than just a 1st. But his performance last season doesn't just get ignored and thrown in the trash.

I really do not care what you think his value is. I don't even care what I think his value is. Ignore personal opinion and let the dozens of historical trades shape the market.

All you're continuing to do is just throw out your own opinion as parade it as fact without providing any supporting evidence whatsoever. More conjecture. Agree to disagree and move on.
Feb. 2, 2023 at 12:10 p.m.
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Quoting: drmantalban
That's just not the reality of the NHL, though. Outlier seasons impact players' value. Whether or not you believe they should is irrelevant, it is a verifiable fact that that they do.

I'm not saying his value is that of a 65 point player making 1.7M. If it was, he'd net a lot more than just a 1st. But his performance last season doesn't just get ignored and thrown in the trash.

I really do not care what you think his value is. I don't even care what I think his value is. Ignore personal opinion and let the dozens of historical trades shape the market.

All you're continuing to do is just throw out your own opinion as parade it as fact without providing any supporting evidence whatsoever. More conjecture. Agree to disagree and move on.


Clearly you DO care
Because u can’t stop trying to convince me

None of those historical trades had a guy getting a 1st when he had ONE good season & a bunch of “meh” ones

It’s not gonna happen
Good luck
Feb. 2, 2023 at 12:29 p.m.
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Quoting: Buffalove
Clearly you DO care
Because u can’t stop trying to convince me

None of those historical trades had a guy getting a 1st when he had ONE good season & a bunch of “meh” ones

It’s not gonna happen
Good luck


https://www.nhl.com/player/jason-zucker-8475722
https://www.nhl.com/player/barclay-goodrow-8476624
Feb. 2, 2023 at 1:04 p.m.
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Zucker has FIVE seasons of 20goals or more
Hartman has ONE good season

Goodrow is an example of the exception, NOT the rule


But go on….
Keep trying to convince me even though u supposedly don’t care! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
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