I'd say that's a competitive offer for Barby. Not a lock instant accept, but it's got a shot.

Yup that’s close for the blues

If I was Arizona GM im running with that deal! That is way too much for Chychrun in my opinion.... and even without any salary retention. Thats crazy

Personally I think you're giving up too much for Chychrun in this deal - but not sure it matters anyways because Dumoulin 100% has Arizona on his no trade list.

Okay fair enough, what in your opinion makes it a bit more fair?

I mean he could have Arizona on his no trade list, but we don't know for sure. You're probably right though.

The Chychrun deal is sound with Poulin and the (2) 1st round picks. Dumoluin is just dead weight in this (or any other) trade and Ty Smith would be a good sweetener to deal with it. He has the M-NTC but often these are teams in **** tax zones, AZ has some of the best tax breaks in the league so more than likely AZ is not on his list.

Kapanen is an odd toss in, not sure he has any real value to either team but if adding him is needed to get the trade done, meh...

AZ would seriously consider this package and likely ink the deal.

This deal for Chychrun likely gets beaten with more quality and less quantity. Dumoulin and Kapanen do very little for the value here, Smith and Poulin are both fairly mediocre prospects, and the 1sts will likely be late in the round. I've definitely seen better offers on this site and I think it would take one very good prospect to get the deal done in reality, which this offer lacks.

You're right - we don't know for sure. The 100% was sort of just an exaggeration/figure of speech I guess. If I was a betting man though and could pick one team that was on the list it would be Arizona though haha.

Either way, just my personal preference - if the Pens were willing to give up this many assets - I would prefer if it was used for a forward or forwards. I just think it would have more of an impact on the team. The Barbashev deal would be good though

That tax zone thing is a really good point. And yeah, I added Poulin as more of the sweetener, but either way Ty Smith and Poulin is a fair deal if it means we get Chychrun. Dumo is dead weight, but needs to be moved to make the cap work. And as far as the Kapanen toss in, it would have to be either him or Blueger going back to make the money work as well. I just picked Kapanen because I felt he was is under contract next year and has more skill than Blueger.

I'm also a little confused because some are saying that's too much to give up, but I don't feel like it is and you seem to not think so either.

Yeah, I agree. I'd like Barbashev at 3C and if not Chychrun then maybe go and get Domi or somebody to play on that 3rd line. I'm not sure, but I am sure that Hextall has to do something. And maybe the Chychrun trade is an off season move if he is not picked up by another team before then.

LOL 2 late firsts [esp since Chych pushes them into beating NJD/TB territory] + a winger they DONT need + a bag of pucks isn't even close to making it worth Zona losing him when they will have a competitive team next year

Yeah, this is really the best the pens can do as far as a trade package in my opinion. But I see your point. I also think Smith is better than he gets credit for, but Chychrun is certainly better though at this point.

I'll do you one better, Carter waves his NMC and Arizona gets him and a 3rd for Chychrun. That sounds fair to me haha

Barbashev would be nice for sure. I don't mind Domi either - but would prefer him at wing due to defensive issues. My worry is that Sullivan is so stubborn and deploys our 3rd line so heavily in the defensive zone this season - I wonder how much offensive guys like Barbashev and Domi would actually help. Especially Domi. Hopefully if Hextall does get one of those guys Sullivan will adjust accordingly.

Chychrun would be amazing to have, I'm not trying to argue against that. I just feel like from a value perspective you would upgrade the team more by using those assets to upgrade the forward group than the D group - even though Chychrun is fantastic. I would love to have him. Yeah Hextall definitely needs to do something lol - it's looking a bit bleak at the moment. Chychrun in the offseason could be interesting - I wonder if his value would be up or down at that point.

I could be making this up, but I'm pretty sure Barbashev has pretty good defensive metrics. And St. Louis uses him on the penalty kill, which might not mean much. But I think he is actually pretty good defensively.

Not so sure about that. The Pens fans won't want to hear this but looking at the trajectory curves of Pittsburg players against the rest of the Metro the cup window is already closed, and the playoff window is questionable for the next couple of years. I really like the Pens and am a big fan of many of their players, but age and decline is catching up to them fast.

I actually looked around before I said that and couldn't find anything haha - so you could definitely be right. In which case I like that trade even more. Although Domi I know for a fact is ass defensively

haha you are definitely right about domi buddy sucks at defense