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Bertuzzi and Barbashev

Created by: Driedger18
Team: 2022-23 Toronto Maple Leafs
Initial Creation Date: Jan. 27, 2023
Published: Feb. 1, 2023
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Adding some grit but skilled grit. Both players can make plays but provide some physical nature everyone seems to want and is valuable in the playoffs. Admitidly Bertuzzi isn't having a great year so he's a risk and Barbashev isn't having the year he did last but that should help to lower the cost to acquire them and allow the Leafs to add two pieces.

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  1. Bertuzzi, Tyler ($2,375,000 retained)
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  2. 2023 5th round pick (TOR)
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2023
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2024
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2025
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23$82,500,000$79,998,746$212,500$0$2,501,254
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C
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G
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RD
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Feb. 1, 2023 at 7:44 p.m.
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OMFG, Red Wings and Blues are getting fleeced. It ain't even funny.

A 5th round pick doesn't get you a top 6 forward.
A bunch of mid AHLers ain't getting you a versatile middle-six forward.
On top of that you want retention. That's insult to injury.

Red Wings and Blues fans will crucify you for this.
Feb. 1, 2023 at 7:52 p.m.
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So the wings and Blues aren't going anywhere this year and these guys are both pending UFA's so i'm not sure why they would turn down offers for these guys. Bertuzzi has 5 pts in 17 games so is he really a top 6? I might have him slotted there because i'm hoping to add him for less, which i said in my post, but that doesnt mean hes top 6 level still. Barbashev is having an ok season but not like last year. Could i pay more for each? Sure but how much more? How off do you think i am?
Feb. 1, 2023 at 7:52 p.m.
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laugh laugh A 23 year old career AHLer and a lousy 5th round pick doesn't get Tyler Bertuzzi at 50% retained to a divisional foe like Toronto. This is the worst Bertuzzi trade yet shakes head
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Feb. 1, 2023 at 7:57 p.m.
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Wings fans will be here, already are here to tell you Bertuzzi is going to get a 1st, 2nd and all of our best prospects which are all terrible
Feb. 1, 2023 at 7:57 p.m.
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Quoting: Driedger18
So the wings and Blues aren't going anywhere this year and these guys are both pending UFA's so i'm not sure why they would turn down offers for these guys. Bertuzzi has 5 pts in 17 games so is he really a top 6? I might have him slotted there because i'm hoping to add him for less, which i said in my post, but that doesnt mean hes top 6 level still. Barbashev is having an ok season but not like last year. Could i pay more for each? Sure but how much more? How off do you think i am?


Dude your offers are a joke, I don't care if Bertuzzi only has 5 points in 17 games, He's not getting traded to a divisional enemy for garbage. Steeves would be at rock bottom of our prospect chain and a lousy 5th that's pretty much a 6th if the leafs win the cup is pure crap.
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Feb. 1, 2023 at 7:58 p.m.
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Wings fans will be here, already are here to tell you Bertuzzi is going to get a 1st, 2nd and all of our best prospects which are all terrible


LOL no Wings fan said that we were getting a 1st and 2nd for Bert, We're more realistic than Leaf fans. But this garbage doesn't get him either.
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Feb. 1, 2023 at 7:59 p.m.
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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
LOL no Wings fan said that we were getting a 1st and 2nd for Bert, We're more realistic than Leaf fans. But this garbage doesn't get him either.


Obviously this is a pretty poor return but he's not exactly lighting it up, seems to be on the way out and has a long history of being hurt all the time. He's not getting a 1st let alone whatever else you guys want.
Feb. 1, 2023 at 8:00 p.m.
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Detroit and Toronto aren't compatible trade partners.
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Feb. 1, 2023 at 8:02 p.m.
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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
laugh laugh A 23 year old career AHLer and a lousy 5th round pick doesn't get Tyler Bertuzzi at 50% retained to a divisional foe like Toronto. This is the worst Bertuzzi trade yet shakes head


Is Steeves really a "career" AHLer if he's only in his 2nd AHL season? 81pts in 100 GP. AT 22 Bertuzzi had played 127 AHL games so was he a career AHLer?
Feb. 1, 2023 at 8:02 p.m.
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Quoting: RipNasty
Obviously this is a pretty poor return but he's not exactly lighting it up, seems to be on the way out and has a long history of being hurt all the time. He's not getting a 1st let alone whatever else you guys want.


Dude what long history of injuries? Just his back. Two broken hands by blocking sots is just bad luck it doesn't show and long history of being injured. He's worth a 2nd+C prospect.
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Feb. 1, 2023 at 8:04 p.m.
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Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
Dude what long history of injuries? Just his back. Two broken hands by blocking sots is just bad luck it doesn't show and long history of being injured. He's worth a 2nd+C prospect.


Yeah I think this is more of an "outlier" season for Bertuzzi.
Value in the toilet right now but he can bounce back.
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Feb. 1, 2023 at 8:06 p.m.
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So the wings and Blues aren't going anywhere this year and these guys are both pending UFA's so i'm not sure why they would turn down offers for these guys. Bertuzzi has 5 pts in 17 games so is he really a top 6? I might have him slotted there because i'm hoping to add him for less, which i said in my post, but that doesnt mean hes top 6 level still. Barbashev is having an ok season but not like last year. Could i pay more for each? Sure but how much more? How off do you think i am?


Even 4th liners go for a single 3rd. This is the trade deadline so contenders do tend to overpay to outbid other teams.
Barbashev will return a B-prospect + the 2024 2nd. Similar to what Colorado paid for Lehkonen.

Bertuzzi's value in the toilet right now. He's had a very inconsistent season due to injuries but his track record shows that he's a 30 goal scorer and capable of putting up
points at a 50pt pace with good work on the PP. This is obviously more of an "outlier". Detroit definitely has no intention to trade someone with value that low especially to a divisional rival.
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Feb. 1, 2023 at 8:08 p.m.
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Quoting: Driedger18
Is Steeves really a "career" AHLer if he's only in his 2nd AHL season? 81pts in 100 GP. AT 22 Bertuzzi had played 127 AHL games so was he a career AHLer?


No comparison, Bertuzzi came into the league at age 21. Already spent 3 seasons in GR from the time he was drafted in 2013. Steeves is already 23 and in his 2nd season in the AHL. Yeah that's pretty much telling me that he's a career AHLer.
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Feb. 1, 2023 at 8:10 p.m.
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I'm not a big fan of either player for a rental, but those offers are way to low for Wings and Blues to consider

Just a note, Barbashev, 9 points in 50 NHL playoff games, Bertuzzi not one NHL playoff game
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Feb. 1, 2023 at 8:14 p.m.
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Exactly nothing about that comes close to tempting the Blues. It's a brutal non-offer.
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Feb. 1, 2023 at 8:22 p.m.
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Quoting: Driedger18
So the wings and Blues aren't going anywhere this year and these guys are both pending UFA's so i'm not sure why they would turn down offers for these guys. Bertuzzi has 5 pts in 17 games so is he really a top 6? I might have him slotted there because i'm hoping to add him for less, which i said in my post, but that doesnt mean hes top 6 level still. Barbashev is having an ok season but not like last year. Could i pay more for each? Sure but how much more? How off do you think i am?


The rest of the NHL is not a charity organization for the Leafs LMAO
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Feb. 1, 2023 at 8:28 p.m.
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this is a troll right?
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Feb. 1, 2023 at 8:32 p.m.
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troll post
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Feb. 1, 2023 at 8:34 p.m.
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Rather just re-sign barbashev than do that trade
Feb. 1, 2023 at 8:43 p.m.
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Rather just re-sign barbashev than do that trade


I don’t think the two are related. You either re-sign Barbashev (btw, player has to agree to re-sign) or you trade him. You may ask for better return, but it’s not like “we tried to trade you but didn’t like the offers so here’s a contract “
Feb. 1, 2023 at 8:55 p.m.
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Quoting: Driedger18
Is Steeves really a "career" AHLer if he's only in his 2nd AHL season? 81pts in 100 GP. AT 22 Bertuzzi had played 127 AHL games so was he a career AHLer?


Quoting: HockeyIsMyPassion61
No comparison, Bertuzzi came into the league at age 21. Already spent 3 seasons in GR from the time he was drafted in 2013. Steeves is already 23 and in his 2nd season in the AHL. Yeah that's pretty much telling me that he's a career AHLer.


Bertuzzi was drafted in ‘13 out of major junior and played parts of 3 seasons in the ahl. He also joined a wings team that was - well terrible.
Steeves went to university and was signed as a FA in ‘21; he’s spent 2 years in ahl and is putting up decent numbers. Leafs are a lot better team than the wings were in 2018-19.

Not saying Steeves is equivalent to bertuzxi but he’s not a terrible prospect, I’d rank him squarely in middle tier. Projects as bottom 6 player.
I agree the offer is too low; Bertuzzi is worth a 2nd imo or 3rd + Steeves.
There’s no inter divisional concern because:
1/ wings aren’t making the playoffs this year, so who cares where they trade him
2/ Bertuzzi is a FA; very doubtful Leafs can extend him so he won’t come back to haunt them next year or year after
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Feb. 1, 2023 at 8:59 p.m.
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Quoting: MitchJr
I don’t think the two are related. You either re-sign Barbashev (btw, player has to agree to re-sign) or you trade him. You may ask for better return, but it’s not like “we tried to trade you but didn’t like the offers so here’s a contract “


Sure but I'd rather try and resign him than do that trade. I also think we can get more for him than what you are offering. I'd also rather have picks than meh AHL players
Feb. 1, 2023 at 9:03 p.m.
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this is a troll right?


The dude is definitely trolling with those garbage offers.
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Feb. 1, 2023 at 9:03 p.m.
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troll post


Yup 100% a troll post.
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Feb. 1, 2023 at 9:35 p.m.
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Wings fans will be here, already are here to tell you Bertuzzi is going to get a 1st, 2nd and all of our best prospects which are all terrible


I don't know about all that but I'm sure they get offered more than a career AHLer and a 5th for Bertuzzi.
 
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