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Cost for domi and toews

Created by: Howie
Team: 2022-23 Winnipeg Jets
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 3, 2023
Published: Feb. 3, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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WPG
  1. Domi, Max ($1,500,000 retained)
  2. Toews, Jonathan ($5,250,000 retained)
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Whats their value combined? Is there some situation where it's not a guaranteed first going back the other way but conditional on wcf or scf? Also gonna have a cost to double retain toews.
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    Assets that's should be in play for the two:
    2024 2nd 3rd, 2025 3rd, ajf, gawanke, chibrikov, johannesson, vesalainen and Harkins
    DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
    2023
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    2024
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    2025
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    ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
    24$82,500,000$85,157,858$0$2,050,000-$2,657,858
    Left WingCentreRight Wing
    Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
    $7,142,857$7,142,857
    LW
    UFA - 4
    Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
    $6,125,000$6,125,000
    C
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
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    $1,500,000$1,500,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
    $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    LW, C
    RFA - 2
    Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
    $6,000,000$6,000,000
    C
    UFA - 1
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    $6,000,000$6,000,000
    RW, LW
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
    LW, RW
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Chicago Blackhawks
    $5,250,000$5,250,000
    C
    NMC
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
    $8,250,000$8,250,000
    RW
    M-NTC, NMC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
    $750,000$750,000
    RW, LW
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
    $3,250,000$3,250,000
    C
    M-NTC
    UFA - 4
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    $2,166,667$2,166,667
    RW
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
    $750,000$750,000
    RW, C
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
    $750,000$750,000
    C, RW
    UFA - 1
    Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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    $6,250,000$6,250,000
    LD
    NMC
    UFA - 6
    Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
    $5,875,000$5,875,000
    RD
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
    $6,166,667$6,166,667
    G
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
    $3,000,000$3,000,000
    RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
    $900,000$900,000
    G
    UFA - 1
    Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
    $3,900,000$3,900,000
    LD
    UFA - 2
    Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
    $5,950,000$5,950,000
    LD/RD
    M-NTC
    UFA - 3
    Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$350,000$350K)
    LD
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
    $900,000$900,000
    LD
    RFA - 1
    Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
    $762,500$762,500
    LD
    UFA - 2
    ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
    Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
    $775,000$775,000
    LW, C
    RFA - 2
    Taxi Squad
    Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
    $750,000$750,000 ($0$0$0$0)
    LW
    UFA - 1

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    Feb. 3, 2023 at 5:11 p.m.
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    The 2024 2nd and Chibrikov probably get one or the other, certainly not both. The rest of those assets would be of little interest to the Hawks.
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    Feb. 3, 2023 at 5:13 p.m.
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    Quoting: Hawksguy81
    The 2024 2nd and Chibrikov probably get one or the other, certainly not both. The rest of those assets would be of little interest to the Hawks.


    How about 2024 second chibrikov vesalainen and condition on if the jets make the wcf it's the 2023 first?
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    Feb. 3, 2023 at 5:21 p.m.
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    Quoting: Howie
    How about 2024 second chibrikov vesalainen and condition on if the jets make the wcf it's the 2023 first?


    Sorry, but Vasalainen doesn't move the needle for the Hawks. Who knows if he even returns to North America. Fair value in this deal would be a '23 and '24 2nd + a prospect like Chibrikov. Without a '23 2nd, it would be an unconditional '23 1st along w/ Chibrikov or say a 2024 3rd to make this happen in my opinion
    Feb. 3, 2023 at 5:21 p.m.
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    Those two as rental for the playoff would be sick! But I don't think they have the cap space to pull it off.
    Feb. 3, 2023 at 5:28 p.m.
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    Edited Feb. 3, 2023 at 5:41 p.m.
    If Toews says it's WPG or bust, then I imagine it'll play out like MAF to the Wild. It'll be a 2nd rounder with conditions to a 1st. Since centers are more valuable at the TDL, I imagine those conditions would be a bit easier than MAF's conditions. But I haven't heard that yet. Just people connecting dots that he wants to go back to WPG. Domi without retention and I'm thinking a 3rd. Domi with retention is really an unknown. You can only have (3) retention slots and Toews/Kane are getting two of them. Wherever Kyle Davidson can maximize his last retention slot of what he should do.
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    Feb. 3, 2023 at 5:31 p.m.
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    Quoting: exo2769
    If Toews says it's WPG of bust, then I imagine it'll play out like MAF to the Wild. It'll be a 2nd rounder with conditions to a 1st. Since centers are more valuable at the TDL, I imagine those conditions would be a bit easier than MAF's conditions. But I haven't heard that yet. Just people connecting dots that he wants to go back to WPG. Domi without retention and I'm thinking a 3rd. Domi with retention is really an unknown. You can only have (3) retention slots and Toews/Kane are getting two of them. Wherever Kyle Davidson can maximize his last retention slot of what he should do.


    ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ What exo said. ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
    Feb. 3, 2023 at 9:02 p.m.
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    ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ What exo said. ^ ^ ^ ^ ^


    Okay so here's what I was was thinking 2nd in 2024 (upgrades if wpg makes wcf and toews and domi play 50% of the games) chibrikov 2024 3rd ajf and Harkins

    Basically 3rd and ajf for domi
    2nd (conditional) chibrikov and Harkins for toews (50%) and then trade stanley and some other asset for more retention on toews or domi
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    Feb. 4, 2023 at 7:53 a.m.
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    Quoting: Howie
    Okay so here's what I was was thinking 2nd in 2024 (upgrades if wpg makes wcf and toews and domi play 50% of the games) chibrikov 2024 3rd ajf and Harkins

    Basically 3rd and ajf for domi
    2nd (conditional) chibrikov and Harkins for toews (50%) and then trade stanley and some other asset for more retention on toews or domi


    How about this:

    Domi w/ no retention = 3rd and AJF

    Toews w/ retention = 2nd and Rashevsky
    *2nd upgrades to a 2023 1st if WPG makes the WCF and Toews plays in 75% of the games.

    Not sure if Harkins is a cap dump or not, but if you want to add him too, I don't think CHI would object.
    Feb. 4, 2023 at 12:53 p.m.
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    Quoting: Garak
    How about this:

    Domi w/ no retention = 3rd and AJF

    Toews w/ retention = 2nd and Rashevsky
    *2nd upgrades to a 2023 1st if WPG makes the WCF and Toews plays in 75% of the games.

    Not sure if Harkins is a cap dump or not, but if you want to add him too, I don't think CHI would object.


    That works too chibrikov has more upside imo rashevsky is 22 chibrikov is 19 so it's hard to compare them
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    Feb. 4, 2023 at 3:32 p.m.
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    Quoting: Garak
    How about this:

    Domi w/ no retention = 3rd and AJF

    Toews w/ retention = 2nd and Rashevsky
    *2nd upgrades to a 2023 1st if WPG makes the WCF and Toews plays in 75% of the games.

    Not sure if Harkins is a cap dump or not, but if you want to add him too, I don't think CHI would object.


    I made a new agm with that trade and I really like the idea of that kinda trade benefits both teams and with the other moves really rounds out the deadline for the jets
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