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Sell the Team

Created by: AusCanuck
Team: 2022-23 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 4, 2023
Published: Feb. 4, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Description
Use the $9M of remaining cap space to take on cap dumps for picks

Flip Roslovic and Beauvillier at the 2024 TDL
Trades
1.
VAN
  1. Grans, Helge
  2. Quick, Jonathan
  3. 2023 1st round pick (LAK)
2.
VAN
  1. Holtz, Alexander
  2. Johnsson, Andreas
  3. 2023 2nd round pick (NJD)
NJD
  1. Boeser, Brock ($2,300,000 retained)
3.
VAN
  1. 2023 2nd round pick (CGY)
4.
VAN
  1. Ceulemans, Corson [Reserve List]
  2. Roslovic, Jack
  3. 2024 2nd round pick (CBJ)
CBJ
  1. Miller, J.T.
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DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$82,500,000$66,943,750$1,250,000$1,782,500$15,556,250
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
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$7,350,000$7,350,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$4,150,000$4,150,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
C, RW
UFA - 2
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$4,950,000$4,950,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$883,750$883,750 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
C
RFA - 2
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$762,500$762,500
RW, C
RFA - 2
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$825,000$825,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$762,500$762,500
C
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, C
UFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$7,850,000$7,850,000
LD
UFA - 5
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$750,000$750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$2,900,000$2,900,000
G
UFA - 1
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$7,260,000$7,260,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 5
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$1,800,000$1,800,000
RD
UFA - 1
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$1,350,000$1,350,000
LD
RFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 3

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Feb. 4, 2023 at 9:59 p.m.
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Woof, I have baaaaaad news for you on what you'll be getting for Boeser if that is your bar...
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Feb. 4, 2023 at 10:00 p.m.
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Feb. 4, 2023 at 10:02 p.m.
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I would move the 2nd for Boeser… that’s about as far as I would go until he learns how to play defense again though
Feb. 4, 2023 at 10:07 p.m.
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Edited Feb. 4, 2023 at 10:49 p.m.
Quoting: NJDevils1317
Woof, I have baaaaaad news for you on what you'll be getting for Boeser if that is your bar...


Quoting: Tbrew
I would move the 2nd for Boeser… that’s about as far as I would go until he learns how to play defense again though


That's just based off of rumours, idk how Holtz has been progressing and Johnsson is a pure cap dump... Boeser is still producing at a 60 point pace and would only cost $4.3M per

I would trade him for a 2nd without retention
Feb. 4, 2023 at 10:08 p.m.
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That's just based off of rumours, idk how Holtz has been progressing and I'm assuming Johnsson is a pure cap dump... Boeser is still producing at a 60 point pace and would only cost $4.3M per

I would trade him for a 2nd without retention


There are also reports that the Canucks would need to retain just to get anything for him. Swings both ways, but no way are you getting a top prospect in any shape or form for him.
Feb. 4, 2023 at 10:09 p.m.
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Quoting: NJDevils1317
There are also reports that the Canucks would need to retain just to get anything for him. Swings both ways, but no way are you getting a top prospect in any shape or form for him.


How about Boeser (no retention) for Johnsson and a 2nd?
Feb. 4, 2023 at 10:14 p.m.
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Quoting: AusCanuck
That's just based off of rumours, idk how Holtz has been progressing and I'm assuming Johnsson is a pure cap dump... Boeser is still producing at a 60 point pace and would only cost $4.3M per

I would trade him for a 2nd without retention


Pacing for 60 points, but his defense is atrocious enough that he doesn’t provide a positive impact overall on the ice.
Not saying he’s a negative trade value, but trading him now would be selling low
Feb. 4, 2023 at 10:17 p.m.
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How about Boeser (no retention) for Johnsson and a 2nd?


I think that's plausible, but probably one checked out after Meier and maybe 1-2 other options.
Feb. 4, 2023 at 10:24 p.m.
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Really don't want JT Miller anywhere near the CBJ. He just seems like an issue and their room has good vibes. Also being tied to him until 2030 just seems like such a terrible situation to choose to be in.

Also I'd rather they keep Ceulemans in the system and develop him in the AHL for a couple years. Would be nice to have another RD building for when Gudbranson's contract is more buyout friendly and if Peeke, Blankenburg and Boqvist don't work out long term.
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Feb. 4, 2023 at 10:33 p.m.
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How is Thatcher Demko going to prove in 12 games that he's worth significant assets?
Feb. 4, 2023 at 10:35 p.m.
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Out of those guys I would strongly advise to keep Thatcher Demko.
Feb. 4, 2023 at 10:48 p.m.
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Quoting: oilersfan05
Out of those guys I would strongly advise to keep Thatcher Demko.


This team won’t be competing for the next 5 years so why hang on to him? He will stop the team bottoming out and could return future assets
Feb. 4, 2023 at 11:11 p.m.
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Quoting: Tbrew
Pacing for 60 points, but his defense is atrocious enough that he doesn’t provide a positive impact overall on the ice.
Not saying he’s a negative trade value, but trading him now would be selling low


There isn't a player on this roster other than Peterson amd Hughes that you don't get value for..... it's been that big a tire fire.

Frankly, I am of the school.of thought that a 2nd and a decent prospect is fair value for Boeser. @AusCanuck is correct in his assertion that he his pacing a 60 point campaign..... and offense is offense. Where is overall style may not suit some systems, a team defensively sound enough could look at Boeser as an option absorbing a deficiency..... will that lead to an improved goal differential? Is so, that usually means more wins.

Looking at a player in a microcosm, although useful, doesn't always mean it won't work in a weird way. The Canucks have been a middling team since Boeser hit the scene. Bad teams generally produce bad individual results. Can we all say Linus Ullmark? (Sorry Sabres fans, but......)

I am no Canucks fan, but this thought process of Boeser getting just a 2nd, even with retention is ridiculous. He has his shortcomings, and will not get a Horvat haul, but, he gets something of some value.
Feb. 4, 2023 at 11:23 p.m.
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Columbus declines, as Miller won't have that type of value as high as he did last season.
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Feb. 4, 2023 at 11:27 p.m.
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Quoting: swinny
There isn't a player on this roster other than Peterson amd Hughes that you don't get value for..... it's been that big a tire fire.

Frankly, I am of the school.of thought that a 2nd and a decent prospect is fair value for Boeser. AusCanuck is correct in his assertion that he his pacing a 60 point campaign..... and offense is offense. Where is overall style may not suit some systems, a team defensively sound enough could look at Boeser as an option absorbing a deficiency..... will that lead to an improved goal differential? Is so, that usually means more wins.

Looking at a player in a microcosm, although useful, doesn't always mean it won't work in a weird way. The Canucks have been a middling team since Boeser hit the scene. Bad teams generally produce bad individual results. Can we all say Linus Ullmark? (Sorry Sabres fans, but......)

I am no Canucks fan, but this thought process of Boeser getting just a 2nd, even with retention is ridiculous. He has his shortcomings, and will not get a Horvat haul, but, he gets something of some value.


Brock Boeser is bad enough on defense that he contributes more to the other team than his own. Ignoring it doesn’t make it untrue. Paying a 2nd is paying for potential that he can be a positive player once again
Feb. 4, 2023 at 11:44 p.m.
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Quoting: Tbrew
Brock Boeser is bad enough on defense that he contributes more to the other team than his own. Ignoring it doesn’t make it untrue. Paying a 2nd is paying for potential that he can be a positive player once again


Who said I was ignoring it?

I am saying it depends on the team. A string defensive team Inl say makes the move to drive offense. The team as a whole masks the deficiency. The question is does Boeser on a club likely improve goal differential?

2 years ago everyone saw Nylander as defensive liability, yet saw what he could do to help offensively. Any deal involving the then 60 point winger generally was either for a top 4 D, or a solid prospect and a pick, because it was felt he would improve the offensive game more than hurt it defensively.

I don't think that thinking changes that much.

Boeser as a Devil? I don't see that at all. No need for it either.

Boeser as a Jet? Playing with Wheeler and Dubois.... that has possibilities as the line as a whole is defensively pretty damn good. (Note: not saying that would happen)

You don't have to like the player (hell, I am not tye biggest fan either), but for $4-5 million for two years I still say he can get a good prospect and a 2nd.
Feb. 5, 2023 at 11:36 a.m.
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Quoting: AusCanuck
This team won’t be competing for the next 5 years so why hang on to him? He will stop the team bottoming out and could return future assets


They aren't selling the team though. They are trying another retool. Demko is one of five elite goalies the canucks have produced in their history, if you trade him hes just another thing that will need to be replaced. 2-3 years tops is when their hoping to contend. Only way you trade him is if he wants out which there have been rumors of but nothing official.
Feb. 5, 2023 at 11:39 a.m.
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Maybe if Miller was at 50% retention we'd consider that. As is, nope. We didn't want to sign him to that contract when he came on the block earlier and we don't want to take it on now.
 
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