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How Jakob Chychrun could force a trade before July 1st

Created by: sensonfire
Team: 2022-23 Arizona Coyotes
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 5, 2023
Published: Feb. 5, 2023
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1. Jakob Chychrun will get a M-NTC that has a 10 team no-trade list, starting July 1st of this year.


2. He has wanted a trade out of Arizona for the last two years.


3. The Coyotes have so far refused to trade him.



4. If Chychrun is not traded by late June, he could tell the Coyotes that he'll place the 10 teams that are most rumored to be interested in him on his no-trade list.


5. Once the no-trade list takes effect on July 1st, Arizona's task to trade Chychrun and get a good enough return becomes way more difficult.


6. If Chychrun is still not traded by the end of the 2024-2025 season, he walks out on the Coyotes as a UFA and the Coyotes get nothing.
Trades
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ARI
  1. Björnfot, Tobias
  2. 2023 1st round pick (LAK)
  3. 2024 1st round pick (LAK)
LAK
  1. Chychrun, Jakob
Additional Details:
These are some of the teams to which Arizona could not trade Chychrun after July 1st.


Assuming Chychrun is willing to use his M-NTC as leverage.
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  1. Lundell, Anton
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (FLA)
  3. 2025 2nd round pick (FLA)
FLA
    I don't know exactly what would be a fair trade for Chychrun.


    But that's beside the point.


    The point of this post is to illustrate what Arizona might be missing out on, if Chychrun is not traded by July 1st.
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    2. 2023 1st round pick (EDM)
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    1. Zellweger, Olen
    2. 2023 1st round pick (ANA)
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    Both firsts would be lottery protected.
    ANA
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    1. Snuggerud, Jimmy [Reserve List]
    2. 2023 1st round pick (STL)
    3. 2024 1st round pick (STL)
    STL
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    1. Knies, Matthew [Reserve List]
    2. 2023 1st round pick (TOR)
    3. 2024 1st round pick (TOR)
    TOR
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    1. Boucher, Tyler
    2. 2023 1st round pick (OTT)
    3. 2024 1st round pick (OTT)
    Additional Details:
    Both firsts would be lottery protected
    OTT
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    1. Pickering, Owen
    2. 2023 1st round pick (PIT)
    3. 2024 1st round pick (PIT)
    PIT
    9.
    ARI
    1. Buium, Shai [Reserve List]
    2. 2023 1st round pick (DET)
    3. 2024 1st round pick (DET)
    Additional Details:
    Both firsts would be lottery protected.
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    10.
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    1. Brisson, Brendan
    2. 2023 1st round pick (VGK)
    3. 2024 1st round pick (VGK)
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    Feb. 5, 2023 at 10:46 a.m.
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    1 - Rumor has it a deal is done already.

    2 - His pending NTC means nothing. First - he’d waive it for just about anyone. Second - almost every team would take him in trade. It won’t really hinder their ability to move him.
    Feb. 5, 2023 at 10:52 a.m.
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    Quoting: Gofnut999
    1 - Rumor has it a deal is done already.

    2 - His pending NTC means nothing. First - he’d waive it for just about anyone. Second - almost every team would take him in trade. It won’t really hinder their ability to move him.


    1. Tell me more about this rumor.


    2. If his pending NTC meant nothing, then it was a waste of time for Chychrun to negotiate for it in the first place.
    Feb. 5, 2023 at 10:53 a.m.
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    Although Chychrun's cap isn't that high 4.675m, it's still a difficult trade for most without sending cap back to the Coyotes...Including the Sens.
    Gee, I don't think any non playoff team should be trading multiple firsts for two years of Chychrun.
    Don't really see that his M NTC would have much of a affect when making a trade. He probably wants out of one of the worse franchises in the NHL and the one with the worse travel schedule. There might not be a team he wouldn't agree go to.
    LHD and LW are two of the easiest positions to man due to their high numbers of players available. Just not a super need for teams unless they don't have one "stud".
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    Feb. 5, 2023 at 10:56 a.m.
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    Why in the hell would the blues ever do that lol
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    Feb. 5, 2023 at 10:57 a.m.
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    Quoting: palhal
    Although Chychrun's cap isn't that high 4.675m, it's still a difficult trade for most without sending cap back to the Coyotes...Including the Sens.
    Gee, I don't think any non playoff team should be trading multiple firsts for two years of Chychrun.
    Don't really see that his M NTC would have much of a affect when making a trade. He probably wants out of one of the worse franchises in the NHL and the one with the worse travel schedule. There might not be a team he wouldn't agree go to.
    LHD and LW are two of the easiest positions to man due to their high numbers of players available. Just not a super need for teams unless they don't have one "stud".


    With his M-NTC, 30% of the entire league would not be able to trade for him.

    Arizona would be better off trading Chychrun before it kicks in.

    Once it kicks in, Chychrun has some leverage on wherever he goes.
    Feb. 5, 2023 at 10:59 a.m.
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    Quoting: xercuses
    Why in the hell would the blues ever do that lol


    Why in the hell would you ever want to read an entire ACGM before commenting lol
    Feb. 5, 2023 at 10:59 a.m.
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    Absolutely not from Anaheim
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    Feb. 5, 2023 at 11:03 a.m.
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    Quoting: sensonfire
    With his M-NTC, 30% of the entire league would not be able to trade for him.

    Arizona would be better off trading Chychrun before it kicks in.

    Once it kicks in, Chychrun has some leverage on wherever he goes.


    Yes, Chychrun would have leverage but it's not necessary accurate that 10 teams couldn't trade for him. Gotta think he would waive to virtually maybe even ALL NHL teams.
    One reason that players have the NTC, M NTC or even NMC in their contracts in the final years (especially players last NHL contracts) is so they won't be traded to lousy teams with cap, especially if he players play has declined on the ice.
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    Feb. 5, 2023 at 11:03 a.m.
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    Quoting: GeneralLandro
    Absolutely not from Anaheim


    Thank you for missing the point of this ACGM.
    Feb. 5, 2023 at 11:08 a.m.
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    Quoting: palhal
    Yes, Chychrun would have leverage but it's not necessary accurate that 10 teams couldn't trade for him. Gotta think he would waive to virtually maybe even ALL NHL teams.
    One reason that players have the NTC, M NTC or even NMC in their contracts in the final years (especially players last NHL contracts) is so they won't be traded to lousy teams with cap, especially if he players play has declined on the ice.


    We'll see what happens then.
    Feb. 5, 2023 at 11:09 a.m.
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    Quoting: sensonfire
    1. Tell me more about this rumor.


    2. If his pending NTC meant nothing, then it was a waste of time for Chychrun to negotiate for it in the first place.


    Supposedly he has removed all his references to Coyotes from social media and started following most of the players on the Leafs. Lot of speculation something is being finalized.

    I know, flimsy, it’s AS weekend and people are bored. 🤷🏻‍♂️

    As far as the NTC goes, likely both sides were hoping they’d be a quality team by the time it kicked in. They aren’t, and it’s highly unlikely there are many teams he would block a trade to.
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    Feb. 5, 2023 at 11:12 a.m.
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    Ehh no thanks.
    Feb. 5, 2023 at 11:12 a.m.
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    Quoting: sensonfire
    Why in the hell would you ever want to read an entire ACGM before commenting lol


    i did read but it still makes no sense for the blues atm lol
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    Feb. 5, 2023 at 11:17 a.m.
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    i did read but it still makes no sense for the blues atm lol


    Good for you but the return on Chychrun is beside the point lol
    Feb. 5, 2023 at 11:48 a.m.
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    Good for you but the return on Chychrun is beside the point lol


    The point of ACGMs is trades and discussion around them

    If you want a forum discussion on how Chychurn can force a trade go make a forum post not an ACGM
    Feb. 5, 2023 at 11:52 a.m.
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    Quoting: Salzy
    The point of ACGMs is trades and discussion around them

    If you want a forum discussion on how Chychurn can force a trade go make a forum post not an ACGM


    There's more to ACGMs than just trades.

    As someone who's been a Capfriendly user since 2018, you should know that by now.
    Feb. 5, 2023 at 11:55 a.m.
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    why make this thread with a bunch of proposal if that is not the point. Just wasting everyone's time
    Feb. 5, 2023 at 12:04 p.m.
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    why make this thread with a bunch of proposal if that is not the point. Just wasting everyone's time


    These aren't proposals.

    These are some of the pieces that Arizona would ask in any trade for Chychrun.



    And if I'm wasting your time, then you obviously have nothing more important to do in life.

    Such a shame.
    Feb. 5, 2023 at 1:08 p.m.
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    Good for you but the return on Chychrun is beside the point lol


    Ok you didn’t make that clear at all
    Feb. 5, 2023 at 1:44 p.m.
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    Ok you didn’t make that clear at all


    Yes, I did.

    This is what I said, word for word:



    "I don't know exactly what would be a fair trade for Chychrun.

    But that's beside the point.

    The point of this post is to illustrate what Arizona might be missing out on, if Chychrun is not traded by July 1st."
    Feb. 5, 2023 at 2:30 p.m.
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    Yes, I did.

    This is what I said, word for word:



    "I don't know exactly what would be a fair trade for Chychrun.

    But that's beside the point.

    The point of this post is to illustrate what Arizona might be missing out on, if Chychrun is not traded by July 1st."


    Ok well I don’t think he’ll go for that from STLs standpoint
    Maybe a 24 first and a couple lower level prospects
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    Feb. 5, 2023 at 3:05 p.m.
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    The base assumption for his trade is that the two first will be late (20+ selection) and the "good prospect" will be coming from one of the weaker prospect pools in the league.

    In the case of a team like Anaheim who has a strong prospect system and picks reliably inside the top 20, the picks would need to be more significantly protected (think top 18 or 20 protected), or one would need to be downgraded to a 2nd, and Arizona would not be receiving one of our top prospects. For example, ANA 23 2nd, ANA 24 1st (lotto protected) and a lesser prospect than Zellweger, such as Lacombe, or someone outside/at the bottom of the Ducks top 10 prospects list.
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