Bump the condition the other way. Starts at a 2nd and goes down if certain KPIs aren’t hit. Then I think it’s actually a rock solid idea.

I don't think they will get much return for Vrana unfortunately.

It's not bad but I don't want to waste a roster spot with Foegele. We have young guys like Soderblom, Berggren, Veleno and Kasper who need roster spots. Why not just call up Vrana and see what he can do? It looks like he has his hockey shape back in Grand Rapids. If anything to get his value up. If he returns to scoring a goal every other game, why trade him at all?

As for these so called "sources" it sounds Eklund-esque. Until someone like Bobby Mac, Friedman or LeBrun report it, I'll take it as fiction. Yzerman doesn't leak anything.

If youre valuing him as an AHLer, lets just say that Vrana has net zero value. That means that youre valuing Maata to be worth two 2nds, Lavoie and Foegele. Then bring in Vrana who has negative value. Get rid of the two 2nds and it makes sense, but Maata aint worth close to this

Vrana would be perfect with McDavid

I was thinking poolparty not foegele but I think a deal with Maatta and vrana for poolparty and a puck could happen and work for both teams.

I don't want Foegele; he's a dump here to make the deal work. He can easily be bought out ($583k year 1 / $1.1M year 2) or waived, if not traded.


The '24 2nd is for Foegele + salary retention on Vrana. WSH paid a 2nd just to move Panik out in the Vrana-Mantha trade (where Panik had 2x2.75M left on his contract), so I'm effectively copying that. It's just that, if Vrana finds a renaissance within his NHL game (as he has lately in the AHL with 8pts in the last 7 GP) and adds significant benefit to EDM's roster, then DET gets compensated appropriately.

I don't want Foegele, nor do I want Pulj. We have so many wingers that we need room. With someone like Pulj, you likely don't want to waive him, but with Foegele it's a definite option to make roster space for the young guys already in the system.

I think Pulj needs a guaranteed roster spot to let him fluorish, and it's not something we can provide him.

EDM could just buy Foegele out. And in that Mantha-Vrana deal, he was j there for cap purposes.

I think a Vrana deal would be closer to Foegele and 5th for Vrana (1.25 mil retained)

Did I miss some news/reporting about Vrana being shopped or being on the outs In Detroit. I knew about the player assistance program and being on waivers and in AHL, but haven’t seen much in the past few weeks.

Were there more recent ‘rumors’ here?

There's no real source. Everyone is jumping on it though. Which is funny because Yzerman doesn't leak anything.

There is a rumor floating that Vrana will never play in DET again because he rubbed Yzerman the wrong way. Again, a rumor, because Yzerman doesn't tilt his hand.

Vrana is certainly turning it around though in GR. He's got 6G + 2A in his last 7 GP.

I agree if you take poolparty on you have to play him and see what you have. They'd have to be prepared to do that and they easily could if they wanted too.

Vrana just needed to get his game shape back because he didn't even skate for almost 3 months. That's why Yzerman knew no team would claim him off waivers. That and whatever he was going through while being on the player assistance program.

But I still think it's best he's called back up to Detroit so he can get his value up. If he starts scoring again, I don't see why he needs to be traded unless the offer is too good to refuse.

I think the only "easy" option here is to move players down to GR. Otherwise, what other "easy" options are there, realistically, to open up a spot for Pulj in the top 9?

Absolutely agree. I love watching Vrana play, and really DO NOT want to see him moved. However, if Yzerman's ass is burned by something Vrana did, then so be it.

There are sources saying it. It didn't come directly from Yzermans mouth, nothing ever does, so people are treating it with some skepticism. It does makes sense though.

If Pool Party couldn't produce with McDavid and Draisaitl, what would he do in Detroit? We already have 1 bust in Zadina. We don't need another one.

Who are these sources? Dwayne in his basement?

You put him in and sit Suter or Sunny or maybe they're gone already too and you need the body. I mean really it's not hard if they want to do it.

I highly doubt Yzerman will move Vrana for anything less than a positive return, let alone dump him... he took a calculated risk with the waiver at the time and it looks like it's paying off. Vrana was given an opportunity to get his game back (in a lower pressure situation), get his personal stuff sorted, and the Wings can continue to evaluate him with no risk. Worst case scenario, we go into next season and eat the final year of the deal(we have the cap space). Best case scenario, he returns to form and we add a 40-goal caliber scorer back to the lineup. There is literally nothing positive to be gained by the Wings dumping him, or selling low.

Well the obvious tweets we just got in the last day that touched this all off us Ansar Khan has said it before now and people just didn't pay it any mind.

I agree. This post is just my play on the latest rumor. Actually, credit due to a EDM ACGM which initiated my idea here.

Plus we're losing Nielsen's buyout money (500k) and Abdelkader's buyout cap drops. Keeping Vrana for another season doesn't hurt us provided he plays and produces. It gives us an opportunity to get a much better return for Vrana at next season's trade deadline.

Suter has his spot just about guaranteed until we get a replacement C or put Ras back at 3C (please don't).

And what about next season? We just keep Soda and Kasper in GR, in hopes that Pulj wakes up? No thank you.