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Blues Leafs Rangers Trade Triangle

Created by: BDW
Published: Feb. 8, 2023 at 10:50 a.m.
Salary Cap: $82,500,000
Season Days: 64/185 (35%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has met the central registry's trade checklist

Logo of the New York RangersNew York Rangers

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Blais, SamuelNew York RangersNHL-$527,568011---39055--
Kravtsov, VitaliNew York RangersNHL-$302,703011---27336--
2023 1st round pick (Logo of the New York RangersNYR)---100------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Tarasenko, VladimirSt. Louis BluesNHL50%$1,297,297011---38101929--
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$1,234,8692347654413
Change-$467,026-1-1-1-100
Final$767,843 (↓)22 (↓)46 (↓)64 (↓)3 (↓)41371118

Logo of the St. Louis BluesSt. Louis Blues

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
O'Reilly, RyanSt. Louis BluesIR50%$3,750,000011---3710616--
Tarasenko, VladimirSt. Louis BluesNHL50%$3,750,000011---38101929--
Acciari, NoelSt. Louis BluesNHL-$1,250,000011---5110818--
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Blais, SamuelNew York RangersNHL-$1,525,000011---39055--
Kerfoot, AlexanderToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$3,500,000011---5271623--
Kravtsov, VitaliNew York RangersNHL-$875,000011---27336--
Sandin, RasmusToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$1,400,000011---4731316--
2023 1st round pick (Logo of the New York RangersNYR)---100------
2023 1st round pick (Logo of the Toronto Maple LeafsTOR)---100------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$1,857,5002148643512
Change$1,450,000211200
Final$3,307,500 (↑)23 (↑)49 (↑)65 (↑)5 (↑)512-174-13

Logo of the Toronto Maple LeafsToronto Maple Leafs

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Kerfoot, AlexanderToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$3,500,000011---5271623--
Sandin, RasmusToronto Maple LeafsNHL-$1,400,000011---4731316--
2023 1st round pick (Logo of the Toronto Maple LeafsTOR)---100------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
O'Reilly, RyanSt. Louis BluesIR50%$3,750,000011---3710616--
Acciari, NoelSt. Louis BluesNHL-$1,250,000011---5110818--
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$1,130,8332349683411
Change-$100,000-100-100
Final$1,030,833 (↓)22 (↓)49682 (↓)41110-15-5
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Feb. 8, 2023 at 10:52 a.m.
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As a Blues fan, feels like this is quite the haul for three players that are unlikely to resign but will give two teams pieces they need for a deep run, all with experience.

Would love to hear overall thoughts on these packages (essentially two separate trades, combined into one)
Feb. 8, 2023 at 12:23 p.m.
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I think Toronto passes.
Feb. 8, 2023 at 12:28 p.m.
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Quoting: mokumboi
I think Toronto passes.


Think so? Just too much to give up or not willing to give up those pieces?

ROR would help and Acciari will be a nice depth piece with some grit for them. Think both players could be on their radar. Was thinking Barbi instead but his higher cap hit makes it difficult to facilitate
Feb. 8, 2023 at 12:30 p.m.
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Think so? Just too much to give up or not willing to give up those pieces?

ROR would help and Acciari will be a nice depth piece with some grit for them. Think both players could be on their radar. Was thinking Barbi instead but his higher cap hit makes it difficult to facilitate


Probably a combination of both.
Feb. 8, 2023 at 12:36 p.m.
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Quoting: mokumboi
Probably a combination of both.


How about.... Blues swap out Acciari for Barbi, sending him to Arizona for cap retention purposes. Blues send Arizona a 5th for next year for that retention?
Feb. 8, 2023 at 12:42 p.m.
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How about.... Blues swap out Acciari for Barbi, sending him to Arizona for cap retention purposes. Blues send Arizona a 5th for next year for that retention?


Well, that's probably closer.
Feb. 8, 2023 at 12:44 p.m.
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Leafs will not give up their first for a rental. Any trade involving their first or Knies would need to give them a player with term back.
Feb. 8, 2023 at 12:50 p.m.
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Quoting: Goggs
Leafs will not give up their first for a rental. Any trade involving their first or Knies would need to give them a player with term back.


I think if the Leafs get ROR or Barbi, one or even both could get an extension at the end of the season. Barbi is more likely
Feb. 8, 2023 at 12:59 p.m.
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Leafs cannot afford to re up the guys on the team they currently have. They cannot afford to resign either of these guys.
Feb. 8, 2023 at 1:27 p.m.
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Quoting: Goggs
Leafs cannot afford to re up the guys on the team they currently have. They cannot afford to resign either of these guys.


I think the leafs will be able to resign Barbi for cheaper than Kerfoot.

Also would expect someone to be moved out this next summer (probably Nylander or even Tavares)

This should be their all-in year and could be willing to give up extra for rentals
Feb. 8, 2023 at 1:41 p.m.
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Tavares has a full no move and will not be traded. He would never waive it. Nylander could be traded, only if Dubas and Co are let go. But trading Nylander for these guys is a net loss. The leafs need to make room for a 3-4m a year raise if they want to resign bunting. Holl is due to double his salary to around 4m per year or they lose him and have to find a replacement 20min a night D man for only 2m dollar (that doesnt exist) and they need to resign Samsonov who will likely get 3-5m per which is a raise of 2m at least. Holmberg needs a raise and so does Kampf, Who the leafs cannot afford and will lose to FA. At which point they will need a new third line C for only 1.5m (also doesn't exist). Just to keep the team they currently have, They need to find about 8-9M in cap space. Assuming the Leafs make no trade, as things stand now, they would have to let Kampf and Holl walk, replace Holl with Timmins, replace Kampf with Holmberg at 3C (at about a 1m a year raise), sign a new 4th line C at league min. Let Kerfoot AND Envall walk. Replace both of them with league min players. And then they would have just enough money to resign Bunting and Samsonov.
Feb. 8, 2023 at 2:04 p.m.
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Quoting: Goggs
Tavares has a full no move and will not be traded. He would never waive it. Nylander could be traded, only if Dubas and Co are let go. But trading Nylander for these guys is a net loss. The leafs need to make room for a 3-4m a year raise if they want to resign bunting. Holl is due to double his salary to around 4m per year or they lose him and have to find a replacement 20min a night D man for only 2m dollar (that doesnt exist) and they need to resign Samsonov who will likely get 3-5m per which is a raise of 2m at least. Holmberg needs a raise and so does Kampf, Who the leafs cannot afford and will lose to FA. At which point they will need a new third line C for only 1.5m (also doesn't exist). Just to keep the team they currently have, They need to find about 8-9M in cap space. Assuming the Leafs make no trade, as things stand now, they would have to let Kampf and Holl walk, replace Holl with Timmins, replace Kampf with Holmberg at 3C (at about a 1m a year raise), sign a new 4th line C at league min. Let Kerfoot AND Envall walk. Replace both of them with league min players. And then they would have just enough money to resign Bunting and Samsonov.


I think one of their big guys is going to have to be traded. Kind of tough when you have Tavares, Marner, Nylander, Matthews, Rielly, Brodie and Muzzin carrying over 55% of your total cap. Someone needs to go or else it'll be league minimum players in their bottom 6 forwards and bottom pair defensemen.

Nylander honestly should be a casualty of this cap situation, but not necessarily in this trade. Can trade him in the offseason to get some cheap pieces to fill in the bottom roles.

Make this trade for Barbi and ROR, possibly sign them both for semi-cheap. Still have room to sign some of their other FAs on cheap contracts if possible.
Also think trading Murray isn't out of the question if they keep Samsonov to give Woll a shot as a backup or sign a league minimum vet to fill that role.

Still think this trade makes sense for Toronto since they should be in win now mode this year with all the cap issues in the near future.
Feb. 8, 2023 at 2:21 p.m.
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Quoting: wozniwack
I think one of their big guys is going to have to be traded. Kind of tough when you have Tavares, Marner, Nylander, Matthews, Rielly, Brodie and Muzzin carrying over 55% of your total cap. Someone needs to go or else it'll be league minimum players in their bottom 6 forwards and bottom pair defensemen.

Nylander honestly should be a casualty of this cap situation, but not necessarily in this trade. Can trade him in the offseason to get some cheap pieces to fill in the bottom roles.

Make this trade for Barbi and ROR, possibly sign them both for semi-cheap. Still have room to sign some of their other FAs on cheap contracts if possible.
Also think trading Murray isn't out of the question if they keep Samsonov to give Woll a shot as a backup or sign a league minimum vet to fill that role.

Still think this trade makes sense for Toronto since they should be in win now mode this year with all the cap issues in the near future.


Extra thoughts on this, trade Nylander while his value is high and at the end of his contract. They know they probably won't be able to resign him after another good year, and could trade him to get cheaper and young pieces to fill voids. Get rid of one d-man possibly as well to free up even more space. JT, AM, and MM are virtually untouchable. Reilly as well.
Anyone else with a cap over 2mil should be on the block during the offseason just to try to get out of this cap space situation
Feb. 8, 2023 at 2:45 p.m.
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They arent just on the block they HAVE to go, just to ice a team. I think what I suggested is about what will happen. The only changes will be what they do at this deadline, and given the situation, I think Dubas will only make moves for cost effective guys with term. He cant afford to do anything else. Its going to cost them a second, maybe even a first round pick to move Murray if they have to do that.
Feb. 8, 2023 at 3:51 p.m.
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I think these are actually pretty good.
Maybe take out Blais and send a 3rd to Tor and that might be perfect
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Feb. 8, 2023 at 5:25 p.m.
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I think these are actually pretty good.
Maybe take out Blais and send a 3rd to Tor and that might be perfect


I added Blais since I was a fan of his play here in STL. Will bring the grit back if we lose Barbi

Are you saying ROR, Barbi and a third to TOR? Or if it were ROR, Acciari to add a 3rd as well? thinking if Barbi is added, send him to ARI with a 5th to retain salary, then sent to TOR and it shouldn't cost another pick. At the very least maybe a 4th or later
 
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