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Based on Recent Pagnotta Rumors

Created by: westleysnipez
Team: 2022-23 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 10, 2023
Published: Feb. 10, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Trades
VAN
  1. Ovchinnikov, Dmitry
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (TOR)
  3. 2024 5th round pick (TOR)
Additional Details:
CONDITIONAL PICK: If Toronto advances to the Conference Semi-Finals and Myers plays at least 50% of the games, the Canucks acquire the 2023 1st-round pick.
TOR
  1. Myers, Tyler ($3,000,000 retained)
  2. 2024 6th round pick (VAN)
Additional Details:
Comparable Defenseman trades include:

Chiarot to FLA, Leddy to STL, Kulak to EDM
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$75,941,250$1,250,000$1,782,500$6,558,750
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$5,250,000$5,250,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$7,350,000$7,350,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$6,650,000$6,650,000
RW
UFA - 3
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$883,750$883,750 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
C
RFA - 2
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$4,950,000$4,950,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$825,000$825,000
LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$4,150,000$4,150,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$750,000$750,000
LW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$762,500$762,500
C
UFA - 2
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$1,000,000$1,000,000
RW, C
UFA - 3
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$835,000$835,000
C, LW, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$762,500$762,500
RW, C
RFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$7,850,000$7,850,000
LD
UFA - 5
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$762,500$762,500
G
UFA - 2
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$7,260,000$7,260,000
LD
NMC
UFA - 5
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$1,800,000$1,800,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$750,000$750,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$1,500,000$1,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$850,000$850,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$1,350,000$1,350,000
LD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$750,000$750,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$5,000,000$5,000,000
G
UFA - 4
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$4,750,000$4,750,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$3,250,000$3,250,000
LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$3,500,000$3,500,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$750,000$750,000
RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Vancouver Canucks
$2,500,000$2,500,000
RD
UFA - 3

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Feb. 10, 2023 at 9:08 p.m.
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Boy, I remember when semi-reasonable Vancouver fans were offering Myers for a fourth AFTER his big bonus was paid this summer.

https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/675746
Feb. 10, 2023 at 9:10 p.m.
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I would laugh
Feb. 10, 2023 at 9:11 p.m.
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Leafs decline, I dont think they have any interest in Myers
Feb. 10, 2023 at 9:12 p.m.
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Shy of your 2023 first, I can't see Toronto having an ounce of interest. If Dubas does, then it's time for a new GM.
Feb. 10, 2023 at 9:12 p.m.
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Boy, I remember when semi-reasonable Vancouver fans were offering Myers for a fourth AFTER his big bonus was paid this summer.

https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/675746


Trade Deadline always sees price increases. Myers at 3M is a completely different beast than Myers at 6M. Toronto has enough money to pay his bonus without issue.
Feb. 10, 2023 at 9:14 p.m.
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1) TheFourthPeriod and Pagnotta are total made up crap.

2) Even at 50% I don't think the Canucks get anything more than a mid round pick back.
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Feb. 10, 2023 at 9:18 p.m.
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Quoting: YesThisIsFlo
1) TheFourthPeriod and Pagnotta are total made up crap.

2) Even at 50% I don't think the Canucks get anything more than a mid round pick back.


Eh, he was right about Tarasenko to NYR a week before it happened. And that Horvat had a deal in place with the Isles on Jan. 31st. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
Feb. 10, 2023 at 9:23 p.m.
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Eh, he was right about Tarasenko to NYR a week before it happened. And that Horvat had a deal in place with the Isles on Jan. 31st. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.


To be fair he also said a day before the trade happened that he didnt see anything happening soon, and then listed 4 teams Taresenko could go to lol
Feb. 10, 2023 at 9:26 p.m.
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Quoting: westleysnipez
Trade Deadline always sees price increases. Myers at 3M is a completely different beast than Myers at 6M. Toronto has enough money to pay his bonus without issue.


If Leafs are willing to put their 1st on the line for Myers, then they might as well trade it for McCabe at 3m. The only reason for Toronto to take Myers is that the cost of acquisition would be low. The cap hit has to be 2-3m for the Leafs to be giving stuff up, but still cheap. 3.5-4m they might take him but Vancouver would have to be giving them a sweetener to do so.
Feb. 10, 2023 at 9:30 p.m.
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Absolutely hilarious that the second a player is linked to Toronto his value quadruples.
Feb. 10, 2023 at 9:32 p.m.
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if you offered myers half retained for nothing i would decline.
Feb. 10, 2023 at 9:36 p.m.
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Quoting: GMBL
If Leafs are willing to put their 1st on the line for Myers, then they might as well trade it for McCabe at 3m. The only reason for Toronto to take Myers is that the cost of acquisition would be low. The cap hit has to be 2-3m for the Leafs to be giving stuff up, but still cheap. 3.5-4m they might take him but Vancouver would have to be giving them a sweetener to do so.


They wouldn't be putting their 1st on the line, the condition on the pick is they make the 2nd round.
Feb. 10, 2023 at 9:37 p.m.
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They wouldn't be putting their 1st on the line, the condition on the pick is they make the 2nd round.


myers is worth negative money so it's genuinely insane you'd expect a first round pick

if anything, a first round pick goes back to toronto.
Feb. 10, 2023 at 9:37 p.m.
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
Boy, I remember when semi-reasonable Vancouver fans were offering Myers for a fourth AFTER his big bonus was paid this summer.

https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/675746


At this point like what Ottawa did with Murray Van would have to pay Toronto to take that deal lul

But hey getting a 1st wouldnt be the worst lul
Feb. 10, 2023 at 9:38 p.m.
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Quoting: westleysnipez
Trade Deadline always sees price increases. Myers at 3M is a completely different beast than Myers at 6M. Toronto has enough money to pay his bonus without issue.


Whether hes being paid 3M or 6M, hes still worse than Justin Holl so whats the point in getting him..
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Feb. 10, 2023 at 9:39 p.m.
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Quoting: mondo
myers is worth negative money so it's genuinely insane you'd expect a first round pick

if anything, a first round pick goes back to toronto.


I don't think you understood my comment.
Feb. 10, 2023 at 9:39 p.m.
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I don't think you understood my comment.


Oh no, I did. If Toronto gets to the second round and Myers is actually in the lineup, the first goes to Vancouver.

Which is a terrible use of assets.
Feb. 10, 2023 at 9:40 p.m.
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Quoting: howmuchcurrycanyoueat
Whether hes being paid 3M or 6M, hes still worse than Justin Holl so whats the point in getting him..


I don't know, that's on Toronto. NHL insiders are saying Toronto is keenly interested in Myers, Myers 50% retained is worth considerably more than Myers 0%. You're not going to find an RHD of Myers' caliber in FA for 3M. You will for 6M.
Feb. 10, 2023 at 9:42 p.m.
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Quoting: mondo
Oh no, I did. If Toronto gets to the second round and Myers is actually in the lineup, the first goes to Vancouver.

Which is a terrible use of assets.


You didn't understand. Toronto isn't going to get to the 2nd Round, there's no 1st rounder being added. It's entirely the 2nd + c-tier prospect + 5th for Myers 50% + 6th.
Feb. 10, 2023 at 9:44 p.m.
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You didn't understand. Toronto isn't going to get to the 2nd Round, there's no 1st rounder being added. It's entirely the 2nd + c-tier prospect + 5th for Myers 50% + 6th.


Which is still awful.

Maybe consider writing better first round jokes. Yours are about as good as the Canucks are this season.
Feb. 10, 2023 at 10:00 p.m.
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Quoting: westleysnipez
They wouldn't be putting their 1st on the line, the condition on the pick is they make the 2nd round.


The Leafs would hope that they do...otherwise why would they even make any moves. They wouldn't put the condition that it becomes a 1st if they win the cup because Myers impact isn't going to be expected to be that great.

How about Vancouver gives a 1st if the Leafs make it to the second round?
Feb. 10, 2023 at 10:02 p.m.
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Quoting: mondo
Which is still awful.

Maybe consider writing better first round jokes. Yours are about as good as the Canucks are this season.


You took longer to figure out the joke than it has for the Leafs to get into the 2nd round.
Feb. 10, 2023 at 10:10 p.m.
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You took longer to figure out the joke than it has for the Leafs to get into the 2nd round.

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Feb. 10, 2023 at 10:42 p.m.
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LMAO U R NOT FOR REAL RN. You guys would have to give us a high/mid-draft pick if u want to get rid of a cap dump
 
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