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Created by: budgeteam
Published: Feb. 11, 2023 at 6:38 p.m.
Salary Cap: $82,500,000
Season Days: 61/185 (33%)
Central Registry Determination: This trade has been rejected because one of the teams exceeds the 23 player roster limit

Logo of the Edmonton OilersEdmonton Oilers

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Campbell, JackEdmonton OilersNHL-$5,000,000011-------0.030.001
Puljujärvi, JesseEdmonton OilersNHL-$3,000,000011---494610--
Foegele, WarrenEdmonton OilersNHL-$2,750,000011---387512--
2023 1st round pick (Logo of the Edmonton OilersEDM)---100------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Karlsson, ErikSan Jose SharksNHL10%$10,350,000011---53175370--
Reimer, JamesSan Jose SharksNHL50%$1,125,000011-------0.030.001
2023 2nd round pick (Logo of the San Jose SharksSJS)---010------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$1,125,0002245563410
Change-$725,000-1-1-1-110
Final$400,000 (↓)21 (↓)44 (↓)55 (↓)2 (↓)5 (↑)1064248

Logo of the San Jose SharksSan Jose Sharks

OutStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Karlsson, ErikSan Jose SharksNHL10%$10,350,000011---53175370--
Reimer, JamesSan Jose SharksNHL50%$1,125,000011-------0.030.001
2023 2nd round pick (Logo of the San Jose SharksSJS)---010------
InStatusRetained SalaryEffective Cap HitRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Campbell, JackEdmonton OilersNHL-$5,000,000011-------0.030.001
Puljujärvi, JesseEdmonton OilersNHL-$3,000,000011---494610--
Foegele, WarrenEdmonton OilersNHL-$2,750,000011---387512--
2023 1st round pick (Logo of the Edmonton OilersEDM)---100------
ChangeCap SpaceRosterSPCReserve ListDraft Rd 1Rd 2-3Rd 4-7GPGAPGAASv%
Initial$984,1672349723616
Change$725,0001111-10
Final$1,709,167 (↑)24 (↑)50 (↑)73 (↑)4 (↑)5 (↓)16-6-42-48
Feb. 11, 2023 at 6:40 p.m.
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Add in Bourgy and Broberg lol. Nobodys taking Campbell
Feb. 11, 2023 at 6:41 p.m.
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Something like this will be the Karlsson trade.

-Karlsson with 10-25 percent retention.
-James Reimer as a goalie rental.
-To subsidize Karlsson's term and cap hit, San Jose takes Puljujarvi (expiring cap dump), Foegele (cap dump expiring in 2024), and Campbell (long term bad contract).
-The actual cost in assets for Karlsson will be low. So that San Jose can pretend they actually got something of value, Edmonton and San Jose swap a 1st round pick for a 2nd round pick. Given that Edmonton's pick will likely be near the end of the round, and San Jose's near the start, this is purely for optics.
-Maybe there will be conditional picks in the deal based on performance or Edmonton winning a cup.
-San Jose can then get further assets through buying Campbell out, which will free up significant cap space over the next few years. They can acquire good young players or take on bad contracts.
Feb. 11, 2023 at 6:44 p.m.
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Quoting: ChadLucifer
Add in Bourgy and Broberg lol. Nobodys taking Campbell


San Jose doesn't want Campbell. They want the cap space that swapping Karlsson for Campbell/Foegele and buying them out gives them over the next four seasons, so they can take advantage of the market for dumping bad contracts in the off season and get 1st or 2nd round picks/prospects for the nearly 10 million per season of cap space it will free up for them in the short term.

Edmonton doesn't want Karlsson at 11.5 x 4.5 years. Dumping Campbell subsidizes his cap hit for them, which makes the acquisition make sense.
Feb. 11, 2023 at 6:45 p.m.
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Okay but they’ll want Bourgy or Broberg
Feb. 11, 2023 at 6:52 p.m.
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Cap Hit Calculations
SEASON INITIAL BASE SALARY INITIAL CAP HIT SIGNING BONUS BUYOUT COST POST-BUYOUT EARNINGS SAVINGS CAP HIT (Logo of the Edmonton OilersEDM)
2023-24 $5,000,000 $5,000,000 $1,000,000 $1,541,667 $2,541,667 $3,458,333 $1,541,667
2024-25 $5,400,000 $5,000,000 $0 $1,541,667 $1,541,667 $3,858,333 $1,141,667
2025-26 $4,200,000 $5,000,000 $0 $1,541,667 $1,541,667 $2,658,333 $2,341,667
2026-27 $3,900,000 $5,000,000 $0 $1,541,667 $1,541,667 $2,358,333 $2,641,667
2027-28 $0 $0 $0 $1,541,667 $1,541,667 -$1,541,667 $1,541,667
2028-29 $0 $0 $0 $1,541,667 $1,541,667 -$1,541,667 $1,541,667
2029-30 $0 $0 $0 $1,541,667 $1,541,667 -$1,541,667 $1,541,667
2030-31 $0 $0 $0 $1,541,667 $1,541,667 -$1,541,667 $1,541,667
TOTAL $18,500,000 $20,000,000 $1,000,000 $12,333,333 $13,333,333 $6,166,667 $13,833,336

Cap Hit Calculations
SEASON INITIAL BASE SALARY INITIAL CAP HIT SIGNING BONUS BUYOUT COST POST-BUYOUT EARNINGS SAVINGS CAP HIT (Logo of the Edmonton OilersEDM)
2023-24 $3,250,000 $2,750,000 $0 $1,083,334 $1,083,334 $2,166,666 $583,334
2024-25 $0 $0 $0 $1,083,334 $1,083,334 -$1,083,334 $1,083,334
TOTAL $3,250,000 $2,750,000 $0 $2,166,667 $2,166,667 $1,083,333 $1,666,668


Karlsson's cap hit is 11.5M. That means this trade and the subsequent buyouts would free up 9M or more in cap for the next four seasons compared to keeping Karlsson.

It's the next off season that is important in terms of cap, and maybe the one after that. That 9M will enable them to get multiple picks and prospects either through taking bad contracts, taking good players on expiring contracts who other teams need to dump (and flipping them at the deadline), or by trading for good young players at a discount because other teams have to move them.

The response is going to be San Jose doesn't have to move Karlsson, he is playing really good. They don't benefit from his play because they are nowhere close to being a contender. It's a detriment to them because they want to finish as low as possible. There is also no guarantee he continues this level of play due to his extensive injury history. If he gets hurt again, they are back in the situation where he is an 11.5M anchor. The fact that Karlsson is having one of the greatest post-Orr OFD seasons of all time, and we still hear how difficult it is to move him should help prove this. The risk of his contract and term is very high, even if the reward of his current level of play is also high. If a team acquires him without significant cap considerations, and he goes back to being an anchor, that can destroy that team's chance of winning in the current tight cap environment. Saying it is a massive risk would be an understatement. Surprisingly, on a site NAMED AFTER THE SALARY CAP, that point seems to be lost in a lot of the Karlsson threads. People only look at the short term with his trades, not the entire picture.
Feb. 11, 2023 at 6:52 p.m.
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Quoting: ChadLucifer
Okay but they’ll want Bourgy or Broberg


I suspect they would be lucky not to have to attach assets to Karlsson, let alone get assets.
Feb. 11, 2023 at 6:58 p.m.
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Whatever one thinks about his cap hit, that defenceman is on pace for over 100 points this season. He will obviously have an effect on any team he goes to, and not just a marginal one. To me, the question simply is, is this Karlsson the one that will appear next season and the one after, or will he begin to bomb again?
Feb. 11, 2023 at 7:00 p.m.
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Whatever one thinks about his cap hit, that defenceman is on pace for over 100 points this season. He will obviously have an effect on any team he goes to, and not just a marginal one. To me, the question simply is, is this Karlsson the one that will appear next season and the one after, or will he begin to bomb again?


And obviously who can fit him... but my point was on the hockey side.
Feb. 11, 2023 at 7:47 p.m.
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What a dog sh*t trade for San Jose my god
 
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