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the start of the Jets reset

Created by: End_of_the_Laine
Team: 2023-24 Winnipeg Jets
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 12, 2023
Published: Feb. 12, 2023
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Steep drop off from previous season, but stockpiling assets will be the MO, I'm expecting 55 to resign this offseason for a big overpay, but Wpg will have the space, then I would expect both Wheeler & Helly dealt at the 24 deadline, Helly for a massive haul.

Lowry will be a placeholder at 2LC as the Jets try to groom Luscious or someone else by 2025.
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,000,000
2$775,000
2$775,000
2$775,000
2$2,250,000
2$1,250,000
1$900,000
Trades
1.
WPG
    Wpg moved pieces for Barbashev and Acciari at the 23 deadline but were unable to resign either.
    STL
    1. Gustafsson, David
    2. 2023 1st round pick (WPG)
    2.
    WPG
      Jets moved these pieces for Hamonic at the 23 deadline but did not resign him
      OTT
      1. Harkins, Jansen
      2. 2024 5th round pick (WPG)
      3.
      4.
      WPG
      1. Beck, Owen
      2. Dvorak, Christian
      3. 2023 1st round pick (FLA)
      4. 2023 2nd round pick (MTL)
      Additional Details:
      Jets recoup some draft capitol they lost at the 23 deadline, similar value as the Horvat deal
      MTL
      1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [RFA Rights]
      5.
      WPG
      1. 2023 2nd round pick (VGK)
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      2023
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      2024
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      2025
      Logo of the WPG
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      ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
      22$83,500,000$64,546,191$0$1,575,000$18,953,809
      Left WingCentreRight Wing
      Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
      $7,142,857$7,142,857
      LW
      UFA - 3
      Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
      $6,125,000$6,125,000
      C
      NMC
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
      $800,000$800,000 (Performance Bonus$300,000$300K)
      RW
      NTC
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
      $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
      LW, C
      RFA - 1
      Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
      $3,250,000$3,250,000
      C
      M-NTC
      UFA - 3
      Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
      $6,000,000$6,000,000
      RW, LW
      M-NTC
      UFA - 2
      Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
      $1,000,000$1,000,000
      LW, RW
      RFA - 2
      Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
      $3,000,000$3,000,000
      C, LW
      UFA - 3
      Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
      $2,166,667$2,166,667
      RW
      UFA - 2
      Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
      $4,450,000$4,450,000
      C
      M-NTC
      UFA - 2
      Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
      $900,000$900,000
      C, RW
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
      $775,000$775,000
      LW
      UFA - 2
      Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
      Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
      $6,250,000$6,250,000
      LD
      NMC
      UFA - 5
      Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
      $3,000,000$3,000,000
      RD
      M-NTC
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
      $6,166,667$6,166,667
      G
      NMC
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
      $2,250,000$2,250,000
      LD
      RFA - 2
      Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
      $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
      LD
      RFA - 1
      Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
      $775,000$775,000
      G
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
      $5,950,000$5,950,000
      LD/RD
      M-NTC
      UFA - 2
      Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
      $1,250,000$1,250,000
      LD
      RFA - 1
      Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
      $762,500$762,500
      LD
      UFA - 1
      Logo of the Winnipeg Jets
      $775,000$775,000
      LD/RD
      RFA - 1

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      Feb. 12, 2023 at 12:05 p.m.
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      You'd be making the team worse at the TDL during a year they are 33-19. Keep the assets and go on a run
      Feb. 12, 2023 at 12:06 p.m.
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      Quoting: EvanderKanesLawyer
      You'd be making the team worse at the TDL during a year they are 33-19. Keep the assets and go on a run


      Agree if today, this is the off season. Hopefully after a long playoff or Cup win.
      Feb. 12, 2023 at 12:07 p.m.
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      Interesting take.

      Couple questions:

      1. So you don't see Lambert being ready for 24-25? (I see him with the Moose next year personally)

      2. Will ask the same question about Lucius, with the same thought process.

      3. Do you beleive that Perfetti will get reps at centre with the thinking he transitions? Or is he simply a better winger?

      4. Does Barron in your view become a 2nd line power forward (that possibility exists) or is he a consistent 30-40 point guy on the 3rd line?

      I ask because depending on those thoughts processes, I am not sure a complete reset is necessary.
      Feb. 12, 2023 at 12:16 p.m.
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      What is PLD’s cost for the Canes if he doesn’t want to re-sign?
      Feb. 12, 2023 at 12:16 p.m.
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      Quoting: swinny
      Interesting take.

      Couple questions:

      1. So you don't see Lambert being ready for 24-25? (I see him with the Moose next year personally) - I bet he plays a bit with Wpg at the end of the 23/24 season, regular by 24/25 likely.

      2. Will ask the same question about Lucius, with the same thought process. - I think if healthy next season he's ahead of Lambert, and hopefully in line to be the Jets 2LC in 24/25.

      3. Do you beleive that Perfetti will get reps at centre with the thinking he transitions? Or is he simply a better winger? - Doubt it, him and Lambert project to be wingers, I think he'll keep getting better though and be a consistant 70 to 80 P guy.

      4. Does Barron in your view become a 2nd line power forward (that possibility exists) or is he a consistent 30-40 point guy on the 3rd line? - maybe, he'll get a shot and should be a middle six guy for 3 or 4 seasons.

      I ask because depending on those thoughts processes, I am not sure a complete reset is necessary.
      - I think its unavoidable, the dominoes will fall once PLD is dealt. Helly wont stick around when he can make 11 million and have 25ish teams after him, Wheeler will age out, but I think 55 will resign, and I think this team can do a 2 year reset kinda like what the Rangers did before Connor, Ehlers, and J-Mo expire and be right back in it if they collect the right assets.
      Feb. 12, 2023 at 12:17 p.m.
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      Quoting: ecupirate07
      What is PLD’s cost for the Canes if he doesn’t want to re-sign?


      Jarvis, 23 1st, and either another 2nd or another prospect.
      Feb. 12, 2023 at 12:21 p.m.
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      Why not put Dvorak at 2C instead of useless Lowry.. lol
      Feb. 12, 2023 at 12:21 p.m.
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      Quoting: MisstheWhalers
      Why not put Dvorak at 2C instead of useless Lowry.. lol


      Sure. I am sure if this is the lineup different combos would be tried.
      Feb. 12, 2023 at 12:25 p.m.
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      I can't see the Jets moving a top 4 RHD for a men bottom sixer. Laughton doesn't have close to that value.
      Feb. 12, 2023 at 12:27 p.m.
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      Quoting: Windjammer
      I can't see the Jets moving a top 4 RHD for a men bottom sixer. Laughton doesn't have close to that value.


      Yeah you may be right, I think if Wpg can avoid moving Heinola at this deadline, they'll try move Pionk to make room for him. I could see them swapping him for someone with some term, Laughton is Copp or Lowry'ish, better than a 4th liner. But yeah maybe they try to get someone with some more scoring punch as well. Lots of options.
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      Feb. 12, 2023 at 12:36 p.m.
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      Yeah you may be right, I think if Wpg can avoid moving Heinola at this deadline, they'll try move Pionk to make room for him. I could see them swapping him for someone with some term, Laughton is Copp or Lowry'ish, better than a 4th liner. But yeah maybe they try to get someone with some more scoring punch as well. Lots of options.


      I really don't think they'll move Pionk as they can't really afford to weaken their top 4. I only think Pionk is moved for a top 4 upgrade of he is moved.
      Feb. 12, 2023 at 12:37 p.m.
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      Sabres would pass imo
      I think we look for someone either a bit younger, or signed a bit longer- or both
      Feb. 12, 2023 at 12:38 p.m.
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      Quoting: swinny
      Interesting take.

      Couple questions:

      1. So you don't see Lambert being ready for 24-25? (I see him with the Moose next year personally)

      2. Will ask the same question about Lucius, with the same thought process.

      3. Do you beleive that Perfetti will get reps at centre with the thinking he transitions? Or is he simply a better winger?

      4. Does Barron in your view become a 2nd line power forward (that possibility exists) or is he a consistent 30-40 point guy on the 3rd line?

      I ask because depending on those thoughts processes, I am not sure a complete reset is necessary.


      1) Lambert will need at least one full season in the AHL.
      2) Lucius will also need at least one full season in the AHL.
      3) Perfetti looks too slow and small to be a center in the NHL.
      4) Barron hasn't looked anything close to being a 30-40 point 3rd liner. To be fair it is his first full season but he looks more like a stonehands 4th liner then a 3rd liner that can contribute some offense.
      Feb. 12, 2023 at 12:52 p.m.
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      Id rather keep Beck, if its true PLD wants Montreal then Id only pay the FLA 1st plus Dvorak just to keep him out of Free agency and if winnipeg says no then just wait and try to get him for free.

      *I know the 1st and Dvorak isnt the right value* but its all I'd pay cause Montreal has good odds to get him in FA if he makes it there, if they don't get him in FA then thats fine cause I think Suzuki and Dach can be a good 1-2 up the middle
      Feb. 12, 2023 at 1:07 p.m.
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      Id rather keep Beck, if its true PLD wants Montreal then Id only pay the FLA 1st plus Dvorak just to keep him out of Free agency and if winnipeg says no then just wait and try to get him for free.

      *I know the 1st and Dvorak isnt the right value* but its all I'd pay cause Montreal has good odds to get him in FA if he makes it there, if they don't get him in FA then thats fine cause I think Suzuki and Dach can be a good 1-2 up the middle


      Good point, Jets would instead move him to the highest bidder for the one season before he heads to the Habs
      Feb. 12, 2023 at 1:18 p.m.
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      Quoting: End_of_the_Laine
      - I think its unavoidable, the dominoes will fall once PLD is dealt. Helly wont stick around when he can make 11 million and have 25ish teams after him, Wheeler will age out, but I think 55 will resign, and I think this team can do a 2 year reset kinda like what the Rangers did before Connor, Ehlers, and J-Mo expire and be right back in it if they collect the right assets.


      Quoting: End_of_the_Laine
      - I think its unavoidable, the dominoes will fall once PLD is dealt. Helly wont stick around when he can make 11 million and have 25ish teams after him, Wheeler will age out, but I think 55 will resign, and I think this team can do a 2 year reset kinda like what the Rangers did before Connor, Ehlers, and J-Mo expire and be right back in it if they collect the right assets.


      I think Helly would comeback as trading PLD and letting go of Wheeler opens up around 15-20M in cap space

      The only real concern is what will Perfetti want this offseason and then what to do with Ehlers and Connor
      Feb. 12, 2023 at 1:30 p.m.
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      Habs ain't doing this, not happening
      Feb. 12, 2023 at 1:45 p.m.
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      Quoting: End_of_the_Laine
      - I think its unavoidable, the dominoes will fall once PLD is dealt. Helly wont stick around when he can make 11 million and have 25ish teams after him, Wheeler will age out, but I think 55 will resign, and I think this team can do a 2 year reset kinda like what the Rangers did before Connor, Ehlers, and J-Mo expire and be right back in it if they collect the right assets.


      Well I guess that depends on the development if Perfetti, Lucius and Lambert.

      This just strikes me a premature without gauging that.
      Feb. 12, 2023 at 1:46 p.m.
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      Quoting: MisstheWhalers
      1) Lambert will need at least one full season in the AHL.
      2) Lucius will also need at least one full season in the AHL.
      3) Perfetti looks too slow and small to be a center in the NHL.
      4) Barron hasn't looked anything close to being a 30-40 point 3rd liner. To be fair it is his first full season but he looks more like a stonehands 4th liner then a 3rd liner that can contribute some offense.


      Well that answers that inquiry lol.

      Agree with what you are saying..... except for Barron. Think the jury is still out, and the injury this season makes it harder. Still tracking for a 25 point season.....
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      Feb. 12, 2023 at 1:50 p.m.
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      I think Helly would comeback as trading PLD and letting go of Wheeler opens up around 15-20M in cap space

      The only real concern is what will Perfetti want this offseason and then what to do with Ehlers and Connor


      Helly will chase the money and the cup somewhere else, I dont think he'll even tolerate a reset let alone a rebuild.
      Feb. 12, 2023 at 1:58 p.m.
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      Both Laughton and Pionk are nice players and do the job for their respective teams. I think Pionk is making more than he should be as I don’t think he would be as good as he’s been on another team such as the Flyers.
      Feb. 12, 2023 at 2:23 p.m.
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      Quoting: swinny
      Well that answers that inquiry lol.

      Agree with what you are saying..... except for Barron. Think the jury is still out, and the injury this season makes it harder. Still tracking for a 25 point season.....


      Yeah we'll see about Barron, he does play with Lowry so that certainly isn't helping his offensive output.. lol

      I did some research on the Jets bottom six guys, Barron has 11 even strength points and 3 empty net points so he probably has like 7 or 8 points at even strength with an actual goalie in the net, sorry but with stats like that I'm skeptical he's got more to give... 🤣

      Anyways those are just my opinions, I'm sure some of my fellow Jets fans would see it otherwise.
      Feb. 12, 2023 at 2:28 p.m.
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      Quoting: MisstheWhalers
      Yeah we'll see about Barron, he does play with Lowry so that certainly isn't helping his offensive output.. lol

      I did some research on the Jets bottom six guys, Barron has 11 even strength points and 3 empty net points so he probably has like 7 or 8 points at even strength with an actual goalie in the net, sorry but with stats like that I'm skeptical he's got more to give... 🤣

      Anyways those are just my opinions, I'm sure some of my fellow Jets fans would see it otherwise.


      Lol. You have been around a while. Your opinions I respect.
       
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