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Created by: BeautifulIdiot
Team: 2022-23 Vancouver Canucks
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 20, 2023
Published: Feb. 20, 2023
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Heres the predicament,
I don't know who to cheer for for Isles games anymore, I want Bo to do well, but I want the best possible pick and that trumps everything. My thinking is that we should cheer for NYI to get as close as possible without going under the 13th OA pick, that way we have the guarantee of a high draft pick.

yet at the same time, should we be cheering for them to do even worse and then pushing the pick to unprotected next year? but heres the catch, if it slips to next year, it gives NYI the chance to be better next year and then the pick could be lower down in a shallower draft.

I am torn, I need opinions on this
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Feb. 20, 2023 at 4:37 p.m.
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Root for them to just barely make the playoffs so you get a pick in the 16-20 range which is only marginally worse than a pick in the 13-15 range. (If you care about Bo Horvat getting in the playoffs)?

If the draft pick slides to next year NYI will guaranteed try to get better probably by trading the protected pick for another piece.

You should also tank hard next year because Chicago has your 2nd rounder.
Feb. 20, 2023 at 4:55 p.m.
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Quoting: Kyle_Davidson
Root for them to just barely make the playoffs so you get a pick in the 16-20 range which is only marginally worse than a pick in the 13-15 range. (If you care about Bo Horvat getting in the playoffs)?

If the draft pick slides to next year NYI will guaranteed try to get better probably by trading the protected pick for another piece.

You should also tank hard next year because Chicago has your 2nd rounder.


How about them getting 13th, then doing well next year and so do we so Chacago doesnt get that good of a pick.

looks like you guys won that trade, you have a new 1C out of it
Feb. 20, 2023 at 5:24 p.m.
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Edited Feb. 20, 2023 at 5:38 p.m.
i think 13 OA is best case. unproctected pick would be nice but the 2024 draft is weaker and the 2023 player will get to the league quicker. and if the isles pick in the top 12 this year i wouldnt be shocked if they moved that pick in order to bolster their team knowing they wont have their 2024 pick. If sorokin walks its a different story tho bc without him next year the pick would probably be higher than 12.

Also some good RHD to target in the 2nd half of the 1st round this year. Axel Sandin Pellika(doubt he makes it to the canucks 2nd pick) David Reinbacher, Dragecivic. Canucks could also move down with one of their picks to get some picks back and bolster the cupboards
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Feb. 20, 2023 at 5:38 p.m.
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i think 13 OA is best case. unproctected pick would be nice but the 2024 draft is weaker and the 2023 player will get to the league quicker. and if the isles pick in the top 12 this year i wouldnt be shocked if they moved that pick in order to bolster their team knowing they wont have their 2024 pick. If sorokin walks its a different story tho bc without him next year the pick would probably be higher than 12.

Also some good RHD to target in the 2nd half of the draft this year. Axel Sandin Pellika(doubt he makes it to the canucks 2nd pick) David Reinbacher, Dragecivic. Canucks could also move down with one of their picks to get some picks back and bolster the cupboards


I am real high on Dragecivic and Reinbacher, I think its risky but moving down 3-4 slots could get a 2nd and in this draft that would be huge
Feb. 20, 2023 at 5:42 p.m.
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I am real high on Dragecivic and Reinbacher, I think its risky but moving down 3-4 slots could get a 2nd and in this draft that would be huge


agreed, watched reinbacher at WJs and i think he will end up being a steal in a few years. all depends where both of the picks are. there are really a few tiers in the first round. 1 , 2-4 , 5-6 , then like 7-12. If a guy like Sale, Barlow, ASP, Dvorsky are there with the 2nd pick you defenetly do not move down imo. Best case is we get bedard at 1(please, im begging), trade isles 13OA for like 20OA and a 2nd. get reinbacher
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Feb. 20, 2023 at 5:47 p.m.
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i think 13 OA is best case. unproctected pick would be nice but the 2024 draft is weaker and the 2023 player will get to the league quicker. and if the isles pick in the top 12 this year i wouldnt be shocked if they moved that pick in order to bolster their team knowing they wont have their 2024 pick. If sorokin walks its a different story tho bc without him next year the pick would probably be higher than 12.

Also some good RHD to target in the 2nd half of the 1st round this year. Axel Sandin Pellika(doubt he makes it to the canucks 2nd pick) David Reinbacher, Dragecivic. Canucks could also move down with one of their picks to get some picks back and bolster the cupboards


I agree 13 OA in this draft is best case. Prospects in the 13-16 range this year would be in the 5-8 range next years draft. Apparently the isles will be letting lou go at the end of the season so I think there’s a decent a decent chance isles make the kick assuming the pick in the 8-12 range.

Without barzal the isles might be the worst teams in the NHL. Wouldn’t be surprised if they go on a 10 game losing streak
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Feb. 20, 2023 at 5:50 p.m.
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I agree 13 OA in this draft is best case. Prospects in the 13-16 range this year would be in the 5-8 range next years draft. Apparently the isles will be letting lou go at the end of the season so I think there’s a decent a decent chance isles make the kick assuming the pick in the 8-12 range.

Without barzal the isles might be the worst teams in the NHL. Wouldn’t be surprised if they go on a 10 game losing streak


very true, If barzal is out for the year and Sorokin doesnt play like prime hasek the isles are gonna drop like a rock in the standing and none of thee hypotheticals matter. It would be the most canucks thing for the isle to end up with bedard with that pick
Feb. 20, 2023 at 6:01 p.m.
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agreed, watched reinbacher at WJs and i think he will end up being a steal in a few years. all depends where both of the picks are. there are really a few tiers in the first round. 1 , 2-4 , 5-6 , then like 7-12. If a guy like Sale, Barlow, ASP, Dvorsky are there with the 2nd pick you defenetly do not move down imo. Best case is we get bedard at 1(please, im begging), trade isles 13OA for like 20OA and a 2nd. get reinbacher


the consensus seems to be in the 13-16 range, 4 slots is a 2nd, less is a 3rd, 7 slots would be closest to DET 2021, 8 slots, a 2nd and 5th
Feb. 20, 2023 at 6:02 p.m.
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I agree 13 OA in this draft is best case. Prospects in the 13-16 range this year would be in the 5-8 range next years draft. Apparently the isles will be letting lou go at the end of the season so I think there’s a decent a decent chance isles make the kick assuming the pick in the 8-12 range.

Without barzal the isles might be the worst teams in the NHL. Wouldn’t be surprised if they go on a 10 game losing streak


That would kinda stink then, imagine we get like the 27th pick next year, that would be one of the worst cases possible
Feb. 20, 2023 at 6:05 p.m.
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That would kinda stink then, imagine we get like the 27th pick next year, that would be one of the worst cases possible


You won’t have to worry about that lol. Isles will be in the 10-14 range next season.
Feb. 20, 2023 at 6:05 p.m.
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the consensus seems to be in the 13-16 range, 4 slots is a 2nd, less is a 3rd, 7 slots would be closest to DET 2021, 8 slots, a 2nd and 5th


never know until draft night. wouldnt be shocked if all 3 of those D are gone by the time Van picks with the isles pick (say 15). if thats the case your gonna get 2 ELITE forwards. Teams historically reach for D and Centres so i wouldnt be shocked if a guy like Sale drops. If we make out with Benson and Sale thats a huge night
Feb. 20, 2023 at 10:33 p.m.
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You won’t have to worry about that lol. Isles will be in the 10-14 range next season.


would rather have 13OA this year as opposed to next year tho, good to hear that we are probably gonna win this trade
Feb. 20, 2023 at 10:35 p.m.
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never know until draft night. wouldnt be shocked if all 3 of those D are gone by the time Van picks with the isles pick (say 15). if thats the case your gonna get 2 ELITE forwards. Teams historically reach for D and Centres so i wouldnt be shocked if a guy like Sale drops. If we make out with Benson and Sale thats a huge night


My Ideal for 5 and 15 is Benson/Smith and Dragacivic/ Reinbacher, that would be a solid pair of guys to add to the core
Feb. 21, 2023 at 1:56 p.m.
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My Ideal for 5 and 15 is Benson/Smith and Dragacivic/ Reinbacher, that would be a solid pair of guys to add to the core


if that isles pick stays 13-16 its a great spot, either getting one of those D or an elite forward who falls
 
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