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SJS Trade Deadline

Created by: wi11dabeast
Team: 2022-23 San Jose Sharks
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 20, 2023
Published: Feb. 20, 2023
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Description
This is my hopes of what the sharks will do come the Trade Deadline
Trades
1.
SJS
  1. Gurianov, Denis
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (DAL)
  3. 2025 3rd round pick (DAL)
Additional Details:
2024 3rd rd pick upgrades to a 2024 2nd rd pick if DAL makes the second round this year
2.
SJS
  1. 2023 3rd round pick (LAK)
Additional Details:
Better of LA's two 3rd rd picks this year (PIT and LA)
3.
SJS
  1. 2023 6th round pick (TOR)
  2. 2024 4th round pick (TOR)
TOR
  1. Bonino, Nick
Additional Details:
50% Ret
4.
SJS
  1. 2023 7th round pick (PIT)
  2. 2024 4th round pick (PIT)
Additional Details:
2023 7th rd pick becomes Best of PIT's 3 7th rd picks in 2023 (PIT,FLA,TOR)
5.
SJS
  1. Forbort, Derek
  2. 2024 3rd round pick (BOS)
  3. 2025 2nd round pick (BOS)
Additional Details:
2025 2nd Becomes 2023 1st if BOS makes SCF

This is mainly a cap dump, BOS is freeing up 1,750,000 for this year and the next while getting a Dman with 15-20 more projected points on the year, and a younger one at that.
6.
SJS
  1. Holtz, Alexander
  2. Johnsson, Andreas
  3. Nemec, Simon
  4. 2023 2nd round pick (NJD)
  5. 2024 3rd round pick (NJD)
Additional Details:
2023 2nd Becomes 2023 1st if NJD reaches the ECF

Acquiring Meier with an extension in place(8.5x8)
NJD
  1. Meier, Timo
  2. 2023 6th round pick (SJS)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$82,500,000$75,569,168$0$1,275,000$6,930,832
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$6,750,000$6,750,000
C
NMC
UFA - 8
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$4,725,000$4,725,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
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$950,000$950,000
LW, RW
RFA - 1
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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$750,000$750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
C
UFA - 3
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
RW
RFA - 1
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RW, LW
RFA - 3
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$894,167$894,167
LW
RFA - 4
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$750,000$750,000
RW, C
UFA - 1
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$3,400,000$3,400,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Dallas Stars
$2,900,000$2,900,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$3,250,000$3,250,000
LD
UFA - 4
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$10,000,000$10,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 5
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 2
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$835,000$835,000
LD
RFA - 2
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$762,500$762,500
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$3,000,000$3,000,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$7,000,000$7,000,000
LD/RD
NMC
UFA - 4
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$750,000$750,000
LD
UFA - 1
Logo of the New Jersey Devils
$950,000$950,000
RD
RFA - 4
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
RW, C
RFA - 2
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$1,500,000$1,500,000 (Performance Bonus$250,000$250K)
LD/RD
UFA - 1
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$2,250,000$2,250,000
LD/RD
UFA - 2
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$750,000$750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1

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Feb. 20, 2023 at 11:56 p.m.
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Meier is also 50% Retained, forgot to add that
Feb. 20, 2023 at 11:58 p.m.
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Boston laughs at you
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Feb. 21, 2023 at 12:46 a.m.
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Devils aren't trading Nemec. Nemec and Holtz in the same deal is an insane, unprecedented ask
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Feb. 21, 2023 at 12:53 a.m.
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LA has said they're not interested in acquiring a rental goaltender.
Feb. 21, 2023 at 1:13 a.m.
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the bruins are not paying a 2nd and 3rd to downgrade their defense
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Feb. 21, 2023 at 2:46 a.m.
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Boston would be getting a better defenseman who is more productive point wise, and has a similar +/- despite being on a significantly worse team. They are also saving 1,750,000 which means they can sign a new player this off-season or trade for another solid player. The picks would basically be 3rd/4th round picks based on the way Boston is doing.
Feb. 21, 2023 at 2:48 a.m.
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Quoting: pretzelcoatl
Devils aren't trading Nemec. Nemec and Holtz in the same deal is an insane, unprecedented ask


Holtz is currently a 4 point player who is having trouble cracking the 4th line, he still has potential but not getting a better prospect would be a huge risk for SJS. NJD has a bright future but if they don’t offer big, someone else will get Meier, who is a perfect fit for them. Even if NJD gives up Hughes or Nemec, they will still have a future #1 dman.
Feb. 21, 2023 at 2:49 a.m.
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LA has said they're not interested in acquiring a rental goaltender.


Did not know this, thank you. Good to know
Feb. 21, 2023 at 3:15 a.m.
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Quoting: wi11dabeast
Boston would be getting a better defenseman who is more productive point wise, and has a similar +/- despite being on a significantly worse team. They are also saving 1,750,000 which means they can sign a new player this off-season or trade for another solid player. The picks would basically be 3rd/4th round picks based on the way Boston is doing.


Where is this whole close +/- thing coming from? Forbort is +14 and Benning is -9. Despite it not being a great stat, that is not "similar" on any planet. Sure Benning is a little more productive points wise, but he's played 11 more games and get a bit of PP time. Forbort's role is to block shots, play in the Briuns own zone, and play important minutes on one of the better PKs in the NHL; he does a damn good job in that role.

If the Bruins acquire Benning as a 7/8th defenseman for a mid-round pick sure, he'd be very nice depth to have. But there is zero chance they make your proposed deal
Feb. 21, 2023 at 5:56 a.m.
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Quoting: wi11dabeast
Boston would be getting a better defenseman who is more productive point wise, and has a similar +/- despite being on a significantly worse team. They are also saving 1,750,000 which means they can sign a new player this off-season or trade for another solid player. The picks would basically be 3rd/4th round picks based on the way Boston is doing.


Forbort is so much better than benning. I don’t think you know who he is. Are you thinking of reilly or something? Forbort is one of the best penalty killers in the league, and a high end defensive d man. Since when is -9 and +14 similar? Are you just solely looking at the assist column and making judgments off that?
Feb. 21, 2023 at 6:59 a.m.
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Quoting: LPProductions
Where is this whole close +/- thing coming from? Forbort is +14 and Benning is -9. Despite it not being a great stat, that is not "similar" on any planet. Sure Benning is a little more productive points wise, but he's played 11 more games and get a bit of PP time. Forbort's role is to block shots, play in the Briuns own zone, and play important minutes on one of the better PKs in the NHL; he does a damn good job in that role.

If the Bruins acquire Benning as a 7/8th defenseman for a mid-round pick sure, he'd be very nice depth to have. But there is zero chance they make your proposed deal


Ya, its so wildly far off. Take out the 2nd and 3rd and there’s no shot - how he got to a conditional first is beyond me.
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Feb. 21, 2023 at 7:48 a.m.
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Quoting: wi11dabeast
Holtz is currently a 4 point player who is having trouble cracking the 4th line, he still has potential but not getting a better prospect would be a huge risk for SJS. NJD has a bright future but if they don’t offer big, someone else will get Meier, who is a perfect fit for them. Even if NJD gives up Hughes or Nemec, they will still have a future #1 dman.


Oh yeah sure we’ll give you the brother of our franchise player no problem!! Nemec yeah sure we’ll do that too because #2 OA picks get moved within 12 months of their draft ALLLL the time!

Listen when push comes to shove and teams make their “best offer”, nobody’s going to outbid the devils offer of 1st/Holtz/Casey or Mukh. We won’t outbid ourselves. And if that’s not enough for you to wanna make the trade, you can keep him and see how that works out for you this off-season, or trade him for a lesser package. I really don’t know what to tell you all anymore. Carolina is keeping their two best trade chips off the table. Buffalo and Vegas don’t seem much involved in this. Can’t be a bidding war if teams aren’t involved. I understand Timo is a top player I’m not negating his value. But we act like there’s six teams on this really driving up the value, and there’s just not.
Feb. 21, 2023 at 9:15 a.m.
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Your value on Reimer is right but I doubt that we'll be acquiring a rental goalie. I'd be willing to bet the house on that if the ask was a first or second, but here, it's not beyond the realm of possibility. At least you got the value right; the first-round-pick-for-Cam-Talbot-or-Semyon-Varlamov nonsense is starting to get annoying.
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Feb. 21, 2023 at 12:25 p.m.
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Quoting: wi11dabeast
Holtz is currently a 4 point player who is having trouble cracking the 4th line, he still has potential but not getting a better prospect would be a huge risk for SJS. NJD has a bright future but if they don’t offer big, someone else will get Meier, who is a perfect fit for them. Even if NJD gives up Hughes or Nemec, they will still have a future #1 dman.


Nobody else in the mix has an asset remotely as valuable as Nemec on the table, and very few have an asset as good as Holtz. Holtz not being NHL ready at 21 says very little about his potential. The Devils can very easily win Timo with neither of those players, so asking for both is ridiculous
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Feb. 21, 2023 at 1:04 p.m.
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You also have to look at the trade market for buyouts right now, NYR traded nemeth 3x2.5, to the Yotes for 2 2nds. I believe that Boston is getting a better player, younger player, and a cheaper player while also unloading some of this contract. They are also giving up less than 2 2nds, especially because their picks will most likely be at the very back end of those picks.
Feb. 21, 2023 at 1:09 p.m.
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Quoting: pretzelcoatl
Nobody else in the mix has an asset remotely as valuable as Nemec on the table, and very few have an asset as good as Holtz. Holtz not being NHL ready at 21 says very little about his potential. The Devils can very easily win Timo with neither of those players, so asking for both is ridiculous


The sharks also don’t have to trade Meier, so unless they get a serious offer, they don’t have to trade. I just think that that would be a mistake for both teams. I believe holtz will be a good player, but sharks are also not even getting a first out of this, which is their main asking piece of this trade, which means they need to get a better prospect. Do I believe this will happen? Absolutely not. But it is also fun to play around with trades
Feb. 21, 2023 at 1:12 p.m.
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Oh yeah sure we’ll give you the brother of our franchise player no problem!! Nemec yeah sure we’ll do that too because #2 OA picks get moved within 12 months of their draft ALLLL the time!
Listen when push comes to shove and teams make their “best offer”, nobody’s going to outbid the devils offer of 1st/Holtz/Casey or Mukh. We won’t outbid ourselves. And if that’s not enough for you to wanna make the trade, you can keep him and see how that works out for you this off-season, or trade him for a lesser package. I really don’t know what to tell you all anymore. Carolina is keeping their two best trade chips off the table. Buffalo and Vegas don’t seem much involved in this. Can’t be a bidding war if teams aren’t involved. I understand Timo is a top player I’m not negating his value. But we act like there’s six teams on this really driving up the value, and there’s just not.



Do I think this will happen? Absolutely not, would I love to see it as a sharks fan? Of course I would. Sharks are also not getting a first back from this which is their main asking piece. I think a scenario in which there is a bidding war on Meier would be great though. I believe from what I’ve seen that carolina, vgk, jets, etc, hell, even the blues now apparently, will offer something somewhat substantial and it would be a dumb mistake of NJD to give up on a player like this, even if it means moving a top prospect.
Feb. 21, 2023 at 1:25 p.m.
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Quoting: wi11dabeast
Do I think this will happen? Absolutely not, would I love to see it as a sharks fan? Of course I would. Sharks are also not getting a first back from this which is their main asking piece. I think a scenario in which there is a bidding war on Meier would be great though. I believe from what I’ve seen that carolina, vgk, jets, etc, hell, even the blues now apparently, will offer something somewhat substantial and it would be a dumb mistake of NJD to give up on a player like this, even if it means moving a top prospect.


Move a top prospect like Holtz? Yes….Prospects like Hughes, Nemec, Savoie, Nikishin, Jarvis, Perfetti are off the table here. We’ve posted prospect rankings from the main teams involved in this. Carolina has one (Morrow) consensus prospect in the top 50 rankings they seem to willing to include in a deal. A Holtz/Casey package is a better package anything Carolina is willing to give. Buffalo is the team that has MULTIPLE top 50 prospects and can drive up the price. But we are being led to believe they aren’t very involved in this. Vegas and St.Louis have so far just checked in. Things are absolutely subjected to change, but so far this is reality. Your “bidding war” is NJ and Carolina right now and neither one of us is trying to blow the other one outta the water.
Feb. 21, 2023 at 1:28 p.m.
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Forbort stays he's built for playoffs. MB? Yeah not so much...
Feb. 21, 2023 at 1:45 p.m.
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The sharks also don’t have to trade Meier, so unless they get a serious offer, they don’t have to trade. I just think that that would be a mistake for both teams. I believe holtz will be a good player, but sharks are also not even getting a first out of this, which is their main asking piece of this trade, which means they need to get a better prospect. Do I believe this will happen? Absolutely not. But it is also fun to play around with trades


You and others on this site act as if Nemec and Holtz are not each worth far more than a late first. There's this fetishization of first round picks when in reality it can often be more beneficial to go for the prospect instead.
Feb. 21, 2023 at 4:36 p.m.
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Quoting: pretzelcoatl
You and others on this site act as if Nemec and Holtz are not each worth far more than a late first. There's this fetishization of first round picks when in reality it can often be more beneficial to go for the prospect instead.


I totally agree, I think that based on what I’ve seen, there could potentially be a bidding war for Meier and I think(as a biased sharks fan) that NJD would be a perfect fit for Meier, and that out 80+ point 40 goal scorer would get a really solid return in the offer above. I do not beeline that this would ever happen, as it says in the description, this is what I Hope the sharks would do. That being said, if there was a bidding war, I think that this offer could be somewhere across the lines of what the sharks could receive.
 
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