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Meier to blues at worst

Created by: glarson17
Team: 2022-23 San Jose Sharks
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 21, 2023
Published: Feb. 21, 2023
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  1. 2023 1st round pick (NYR)
  2. 2023 1st round pick (TOR)
  3. 2023 3rd round pick (OTT)
  4. 2024 2nd round pick (TOR)
  5. 2024 4th round pick (NYR)
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At WORST this is the trade for Meier. 32 thoughts says sharks may want all picks, this is it. All the picks from the Orielly and Tarasenko deals.

And honestly it’s a steal for St. Louis. They go from rentals in their 30s to a 26 year old star power forward with the ability to score 40 goals in a season.
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Feb. 21, 2023 at 4:54 p.m.
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STL must have to buyout someone and/or live with a really crappy bottom 6 and no real backup yo Binnington.
Feb. 21, 2023 at 4:54 p.m.
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STL must have to buyout someone and/or live with a really crappy bottom 6 and no real backup yo Binnington.


What?
Feb. 21, 2023 at 4:56 p.m.
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I beg someone to please look at the blues cap page before trading anyone who will make 8+ million aav next year to them
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Feb. 21, 2023 at 4:57 p.m.
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What?


the Blues have less than 8 million in cap space next year with half their forwards and one goalie signed
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Feb. 21, 2023 at 4:58 p.m.
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the Blues have less than 8 million in cap space next year with half their forwards and one goalie signed


Okay they can figure that out then.
Feb. 21, 2023 at 4:58 p.m.
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What?


They only have like 12 mil in projected cap this offseason, and half their roster expiring
Feb. 21, 2023 at 5:00 p.m.
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Okay for all who seem to be confused, this is the rough makings of a trade, not the whole trade itself. I didn’t look at the blues page to see how sh*tty they lined themselves up next year and beyond. There are stupid trades of a late 1st, 2nd and depth players and that isn’t happening. If that was the ask a team would have Meier by now.
Feb. 21, 2023 at 5:03 p.m.
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Okay they can figure that out then.


oh i'd love to hear how, because even if they all make league min that's just under 6 million dollars in space used up. Now they have 2 mill in total space. so now they have to find 6 million dollars in space.
Their big money guys are either needed or incredibly hard to move. they dont got the room unless they really wanna mess up or pay someone a tone to take a bad contract
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Feb. 21, 2023 at 5:03 p.m.
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Quoting: glarson17
Okay for all who seem to be confused, this is the rough makings of a trade, not the whole trade itself. I didn’t look at the blues page to see how sh*tty they lined themselves up next year and beyond. There are stupid trades of a late 1st, 2nd and depth players and that isn’t happening. If that was the ask a team would have Meier by now.


Why would the blues go over anticipated market value like that? They’d just be bidding against themselves then
Feb. 21, 2023 at 5:04 p.m.
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Quoting: glarson17
Okay for all who seem to be confused, this is the rough makings of a trade, not the whole trade itself. I didn’t look at the blues page to see how sh*tty they lined themselves up next year and beyond. There are stupid trades of a late 1st, 2nd and depth players and that isn’t happening. If that was the ask a team would have Meier by now.


All the people are trying to say is STL can’t do a deal for a player making 8 million or more per year unless they undergo major roster changes. Unless they plan on playing with 7 forwards next season.
Feb. 21, 2023 at 5:05 p.m.
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All the people are trying to say is STL can’t do a deal for a player making 8 million or more per year unless they undergo major roster changes. Unless they plan on playing with 7 forwards next season.


Maybe starting a new trend??
Feb. 21, 2023 at 5:06 p.m.
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Maybe starting a new trend??


Gonna be some tired legs out there lol. This just feels like a leak to drive up the price in my honest opinion.
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Feb. 21, 2023 at 5:07 p.m.
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oh i'd love to hear how, because even if they all make league min that's just under 6 million dollars in space used up. Now they have 2 mill in total space. so now they have to find 6 million dollars in space.
Their big money guys are either needed or incredibly hard to move. they dont got the room unless they really wanna mess up or pay someone a tone to take a bad contract


I’m not their GM I don’t care how they do it. Probably starts with moving players not worth their contracts like scandella and Binnington. The blues are rumored in on Meier, I didn’t make those rumors, just going off them
Feb. 21, 2023 at 5:07 p.m.
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Gonna be some tired legs out there lol


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Feb. 21, 2023 at 5:08 p.m.
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Okay for all who seem to be confused, this is the rough makings of a trade, not the whole trade itself. I didn’t look at the blues page to see how sh*tty they lined themselves up next year and beyond. There are stupid trades of a late 1st, 2nd and depth players and that isn’t happening. If that was the ask a team would have Meier by now.


Don't worry, Blues could figure out the cap. I just spent 2 seconds on a '23-24 team and a Scandella buyout plus Bolduc + Hofer promotions and Perunovich/Tucker extensions gets you to 20 players and about 4 million bucks leftover. And that's before Armstrong does the inevitable and figures out a way to escape from the top 4 he built.

As for a Meier trade, I agree with you this would be the floor. If it goes to the offseason, the comp would be Fiala which I'd peg around 2 late 1sts. At the deadline they could do better, I figure the Devils will pull the trigger.
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Feb. 21, 2023 at 5:10 p.m.
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Don't worry, Blues could figure out the cap. I just spent 2 seconds on a '23-24 team and a Scandella buyout plus Bolduc + Hofer promotions and Perunovich/Tucker extensions gets you to 20 players and about 4 million bucks leftover. And that's before Armstrong does the inevitable and figures out a way to escape from the top 4 he built.

As for a Meier trade, I agree with you this would be the floor. If it goes to the offseason, the comp would be Fiala which I'd peg around 2 late 1sts. At the deadline they could do better, I figure the Devils will pull the trigger.


What a move that would be turning two old rentals into Timo Meier. I feel they would have to move Binnington, but not sure what that looks like. I wouldn’t even want him back in a sharks deal with the 9th overall
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Feb. 21, 2023 at 5:13 p.m.
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I’m not their GM I don’t care how they do it. Probably starts with moving players not worth their contracts like scandella and Binnington. The blues are rumored in on Meier, I didn’t make those rumors, just going off them


well thats just it, it's not a rumour. It's frank servelli speculating because the blues have futures now. Literally no one else thinks this is a thing that could or will happen
Feb. 21, 2023 at 5:13 p.m.
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What a move that would be turning two old rentals into Timo Meier. I feel they would have to move Binnington, but not sure what that looks like. I wouldn’t even want him back in a sharks deal with the 9th overall


Don't have to move Binner, but he is definitely not the best way to spend the money. Blues have a few guys under that umbrella tbh.

I'm not taking the Blues/Meier talks very seriously at this point but he is a really good player and I'm sure they'll do their due diligence.
Feb. 21, 2023 at 5:16 p.m.
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well thats just it, it's not a rumour. It's frank servelli speculating because the blues have futures now. Literally no one else thinks this is a thing that could or will happen


It was talked about quite a bit on 32 thoughts yesterday so it’s more than just frank actually
Feb. 21, 2023 at 5:16 p.m.
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The cap issue for the Blues isn't a large deal. I don't expect them to really spend in FA anyways. Did an ACGM here that made the cap work. The expectations for Meier's contract may be a bit low but there's also a little bit of wiggle room for the cap.

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/3961090
Feb. 21, 2023 at 5:17 p.m.
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Don't have to move Binner, but he is definitely not the best way to spend the money. Blues have a few guys under that umbrella tbh.

I'm not taking the Blues/Meier talks very seriously at this point but he is a really good player and I'm sure they'll do their due diligence.


I think it’s a tough trade to make with the future in mind. 3 1sts in a draft like this is great to have, they should just build off that
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Feb. 21, 2023 at 5:21 p.m.
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I think it’s a tough trade to make with the future in mind. 3 1sts in a draft like this is great to have, they should just build off that


For me, if they're going to spend the picks it needs to solve the defense (ex. Chychrun). The goal should be to fix the mess on defense and try to be competitive when Bolduc and Snuggerud come up and hopefully start to contribute. Meier rumors just seem like the insiders connecting dots between a team with picks that might spend them and Meier being OTB. Doesn't really fix anything for the Blues even though he is a great player.
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Feb. 21, 2023 at 8:10 p.m.
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Quoting: JaredOfLondon
the Blues have less than 8 million in cap space next year with half their forwards and one goalie signed


As of now they have about 13 mil in cap space minus Meier.
Feb. 21, 2023 at 8:12 p.m.
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For me, if they're going to spend the picks it needs to solve the defense (ex. Chychrun). The goal should be to fix the mess on defense and try to be competitive when Bolduc and Snuggerud come up and hopefully start to contribute. Meier rumors just seem like the insiders connecting dots between a team with picks that might spend them and Meier being OTB. Doesn't really fix anything for the Blues even though he is a great player.


They need to fix D, but likely can't because Army is an idiot who hands out bad contracts like they're candy. Great at trading, but on contracts.
Feb. 21, 2023 at 8:16 p.m.
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As of now they have about 13 mil in cap space minus Meier.


LTIR cap space doesnt count in the off season and by next year Saad and Neighbours will be healthy so they have significantly less next year when it actually matters for re-signing Meier and everyone else
 
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