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2022-23 NHL Season Discussion Thread #11: The Main Event

Feb. 22, 2023 at 7:24 p.m.
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Dorian isn’t stupid, getting a first back was a pipe dream


Well the only reason he didn't have to include a first was because a GM was willing to do a trade like this, which I don't think anybody should've done, but picks are picks.
Feb. 22, 2023 at 7:25 p.m.
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Well the only reason he didn't have to include a first was because a GM was willing to do a trade like this, which I don't think anybody should've done, but picks are picks.


And they are early in the second round so it’s not like we acquired Justin Holl for that same return
Feb. 22, 2023 at 7:26 p.m.
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And they are early in the second round so it’s not like we acquired Justin Holl for that same return


Probably between 45-50 so it's not a bad pick, still should've gotten more for taking on that much cap for 2 years.
Feb. 22, 2023 at 7:28 p.m.
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Feb. 22, 2023 at 7:29 p.m.
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Ottawa is 10000% buying someone, no reason to dump Zaitsev now otherwise
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Feb. 22, 2023 at 7:43 p.m.
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Ottawa is 10000% buying someone, no reason to dump Zaitsev now otherwise


Or maybe they setting up for this Summer as before GM's catch on and ask for more sell him ASAP then wait and see whose available

As this offseason has good options

Personally I think they going to get Fabbro as Nashville apparently is trying to move him but lets see
Feb. 22, 2023 at 7:45 p.m.
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Ottawa is 10000% buying someone, no reason to dump Zaitsev now otherwise


Probably just creating cap space to re-sign Cat and Pinto and the crew
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Feb. 22, 2023 at 7:49 p.m.
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Probably just creating cap space to re-sign Cat and Pinto and the crew


And adding Fabbro who I believe is an RFA in the summer

Im just waiting for the JJ-Zaitsev pairing tears of joy
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Feb. 22, 2023 at 7:52 p.m.
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Hes made more defensive plays than Philip Danault who is one of the leagues best shutdown C's. So how did his defense get worse when hes making more plays than one of the best shutdown C's in the NHL





And will probs finish 8th in Selke votes so yea just needs to start Pking before top 5


this is from last season - matthews changed his game to be more physical and block shots and it has had a negative affect on his defensive impact.
Feb. 22, 2023 at 7:54 p.m.
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aadoyle this season

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Feb. 22, 2023 at 7:55 p.m.
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this is from last season - matthews changed his game to be more physical and block shots and it has had a negative affect on his defensive impact.


There is a tweet I posted in one of the forms explaining it best Matthews has actually gotten better defensively this year as he has made more defensive plays than Philip Danault who is one of the NHL's best shutdown C's and has been leading in takeaways and tied for blocked shots if anything hes gotten better.
Feb. 22, 2023 at 7:55 p.m.
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@aadoyle last season

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Feb. 22, 2023 at 7:56 p.m.
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There is a tweet I posted in one of the forms explaining it best Matthews has actually gotten better defensively this year as he has made more defensive plays than Philip Danault who is one of the NHL's best shutdown C's and has been leading in takeaways and tied for blocked shots if anything hes gotten better.


the things that made matthews great defensively is his ridiculously high hockey IQ taking away passing lanes and just overall being in good position. Now he's finishing his checks and making more of an effort to be physical but it's not making him more effective.
Feb. 22, 2023 at 8:01 p.m.
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aadoyle this season

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aadoyle last season

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We also got to factor who hes with. Hes gone from Marner whose amazing defensively to Nylander whose doing not the best defensively. And when your not 100% healthy there tends to be a drop. But still hes doing enough to where im like alright just get healthy but keep her up
Feb. 22, 2023 at 8:04 p.m.
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K I think I know what OTT gonna do

I said Fabbro no no no

I think Dorion going bigger

And bigger I mean Parayko
Feb. 22, 2023 at 8:06 p.m.
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We also got to factor who hes with. Hes gone from Marner whose amazing defensively to Nylander whose doing not the best defensively. And when your not 100% healthy there tends to be a drop. But still hes doing enough to where im like alright just get healthy but keep her up


if he's not 100% healthy I understand there being a drop off but it was noted that he wanted to change his game and it just doesn't seem to be working out for him. He went from elite defensively to below average because he's focusing on the wrong things. Matthews should not be focusing on blocking shots.
Feb. 22, 2023 at 8:07 p.m.
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if he's not 100% healthy I understand there being a drop off but it was noted that he wanted to change his game and it just doesn't seem to be working out for him. He went from elite defensively to below average because he's focusing on the wrong things. Matthews should not be focusing on blocking shots.


I feel a combination of not 100% and changing his game and adapting could be the cause to the stats drop. But in general Matthews blocking shots has saved goals here and there so as long as hes not actively killing himself im fine with it. Just needs to continue learning and adapting
Feb. 22, 2023 at 8:59 p.m.
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If Sebastian Aho was made available he'd be the 2nd best D on the market. He'd be a good fit on Dallas or Minnesota
Feb. 22, 2023 at 9:01 p.m.
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So...
Gavrikov to Boston?

and

Chychrun to Ottawa?
Feb. 22, 2023 at 9:07 p.m.
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So...
Gavrikov to Boston?

and

Chychrun to Ottawa?


I think Parayko to Ott cause notice how the reports OTT talked with Blues about Parayko came out then they do this

As Ottawa needs a RD (Parayko) not a LD like Chycrun
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Feb. 22, 2023 at 9:16 p.m.
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Kinda odd timing for the Zaitsev move to me - I don’t see the motivation. Is Ottawa motivated by a playoff team? Otherwise this would have waited until anytime up until the draft yeah? Don’t new contracts start on July 1st? So Chychruns NTC that begins next season is months away.

Unless they just want some shiny new thing for the remainder of the season to test it out.

Isn’t it abnormal for 2 non playoff teams to complete a cap dump trade at this time of the year?

Edit: if for Parayko it’s kinda the same thing. Why would the Blues care if this deal occurs at this deadline versus anytime in the off-season up until the draft. Perhaps it is Parayko, and a playoff team is bidding on him, and the Blues will take that deal, except Ottawa likes him also. I guess something like that - or another similar situation makes sense.
Feb. 22, 2023 at 9:18 p.m.
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If Sebastian Aho was made available he'd be the 2nd best D on the market. He'd be a good fit on Dallas or Minnesota


Bruh. He's a 6th D in NYI based on accrued ice time. A 27-year old playing his first year as a full-time NHLer.

Analytically he's been great, but...2nd best D? Tone it down a notch.
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Feb. 22, 2023 at 9:18 p.m.
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Quoting: A_Habs_fan
Ottawa is 10000% buying someone, no reason to dump Zaitsev now otherwise


There gonna be in on Chychrun, I assume. But there Cap Situation is still very tight and not ideal. They wont be able to fill both the Starting Goaltender, and 2RD holes very easily. Spitballing a little here but what about Calen Addison? He's been healthy scratched 4 Straight games I believe and he's young, and shouldnt cost too much against the cap next year either.
Feb. 22, 2023 at 9:21 p.m.
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Quoting: ARMCHAIRGMOFTHEYEAR
There gonna be in on Chychrun, I assume. But there Cap Situation is still very tight and not ideal. They wont be able to fill both the Starting Goaltender, and 2RD holes very easily. Spitballing a little here but what about Calen Addison? He's been healthy scratched 4 Straight games I believe and he's young, and shouldnt cost too much against the cap next year either.


Chycrun to OTT makes no sense though as hes a LD. They need a shutdown RD who can play with Chabot or be with Sanderson in a mentor role

Chycrun makes more sense for a team needing a LD like LAK

For Ottawa I feel they did this just to get cap space
Feb. 22, 2023 at 9:22 p.m.
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If Sebastian Aho was made available he'd be the 2nd best D on the market. He'd be a good fit on Dallas or Minnesota


Chychrun>>>>
Gavrikov>>
Kulikov>
Ghostisbehere>>>>
Parayko>>>>
Soucy>>>>
Ekholm>>>>
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