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2022-23 NHL Season Discussion Thread #11: The Main Event

Feb. 23, 2023 at 9:57 p.m.
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whats up with Zboril and Clifton, both rumoured to be on the move?
Feb. 23, 2023 at 10:17 p.m.
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Quoting: pinslack
whats up with Zboril and Clifton, both rumoured to be on the move?


For future considerations
Feb. 23, 2023 at 10:19 p.m.
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Quoting: pinslack
whats up with Zboril and Clifton, both rumoured to be on the move?


They were rumored to be involved in the Orlov trade. Likely 1 or both move now as Bruins don't have a spot for them.
Feb. 23, 2023 at 10:21 p.m.
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whats up with Zboril and Clifton, both rumoured to be on the move?


Pagnotta moment
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Feb. 23, 2023 at 10:43 p.m.
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Vancouver and St.Louis going to OT.. W for Montreal
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Feb. 23, 2023 at 10:55 p.m.
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Vancouver and St.Louis going to OT.. W for Montreal


and the team right below us wins. Double W
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Feb. 23, 2023 at 11:08 p.m.
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Pasta undresses Larsen+Grubauer...sick mitts!
Feb. 23, 2023 at 11:21 p.m.
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Kuzmenko and Pettersson did not get the memo that we are tanking
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Feb. 23, 2023 at 11:27 p.m.
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Kuzmenko and Pettersson did not get the memo that we are tanking


The only trade they made this year, they upgraded their team. They aren't tanking
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Feb. 23, 2023 at 11:43 p.m.
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Common Columbus L
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Feb. 23, 2023 at 11:45 p.m.
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If im SEA I target Ekholm at the TDL

Also 99% convinced Grubauer is getting bought out
Feb. 23, 2023 at 11:59 p.m.
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Alexey Toropchenko: "I'm trying to do my best. ... I hope everyone on the same page, but it's not like that unfortunately." "Even if we are not in a playoff spot, I will do everything because it's a hockey game. This is NHL. You are not playing in a beer league or something. You need to show something, you need to show character and be strong everywhere, play from your heart."

Blues 4th round pick, 23 year old who’s primarily been a 4th liner calls out team.

He had a monster game, blocking shots and such, scored a short handed goal.

Rare to see words like this from somebody so young.

Blues in full meltdown mode I guess.
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Feb. 24, 2023 at 12:19 a.m.
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If im SEA I target Ekholm at the TDL


I agree but they shouldn’t pay more than a 1st
Feb. 24, 2023 at 12:20 a.m.
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I agree but they shouldn’t pay more than a 1st


mmmm

ekholmbrodie.png?resize=850%2C700&ssl=1

Guys doing this on a bad NSH team with Lauzon as his partner

If im NSH I want a Muzzin like return.

https://theleafsnation.com/news/pierre-lebrun-reporting-mattias-ekholm-may-be-available-and-the-leafs-have-looked-at-him

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As next to Chycrun, Ekholm is the best D available this TDL. Issue is the pricey contract but if NSH retains 1.5mill its not bad
Feb. 24, 2023 at 12:22 a.m.
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Quoting: aadoyle
mmmm

ekholmbrodie.png?resize=850%2C700&ssl=1

Guys doing this on a bad NSH team with Lauzon as his partner

If im NSH I want a Muzzin like return

https://theleafsnation.com/news/pierre-lebrun-reporting-mattias-ekholm-may-be-available-and-the-leafs-have-looked-at-him

(More stats)


I know Ekholm is a solid top pair D, but he’s going to be 33 in a few months. A 1st is the most id give up for him if I were the kraken GM
Feb. 24, 2023 at 12:37 a.m.
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SEA vs. Kraken = goaltending and defense optional
Feb. 24, 2023 at 12:42 a.m.
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Has Elias Pettersson been a top 5 player this season? I'd say he is at least top 10
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Feb. 24, 2023 at 12:45 a.m.
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Safe to say Dawson Mercer isn't going anywhere. Not that tonight's performance made a diff. Just to reassure Devils fans...he's safe.
Feb. 24, 2023 at 12:49 a.m.
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Has Elias Pettersson been a top 5 player this season? I'd say he is at least top 10


Def top 10. def not top 5.
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Feb. 24, 2023 at 12:59 a.m.
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Def top 10. def not top 5.


I'd say there is an argument. 7th in points while playing on one of the worst teams in the league. Better defensive numbers than every single player who has more points than him.
2nd in 5v5 points, 1st in 5v5 points/60. Maybe not top 5 player, but he is easily one of the best, if not the best player 5v5 this season in the league.
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Feb. 24, 2023 at 1:26 a.m.
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I'd say there is an argument. 7th in points while playing on one of the worst teams in the league. Better defensive numbers than every single player who has more points than him.
2nd in 5v5 points, 1st in 5v5 points/60. Maybe not top 5 player, but he is easily one of the best, if not the best player 5v5 this season in the league.


Hughes is #1 5on5, imo. Petey is close #2. Both are having breakout seasons. Jack has carried his wingers all season, w/ the exception of Bratt when together. Hard to imagine anyone else scoring 29 EVG with his line mates. Biggest diff - Jack is winning. But, props to Petey. He's def. an elite player. Just depends on how much emphasis you place on winning when you compare top players.
Feb. 24, 2023 at 2:06 a.m.
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Hughes is #1 5on5, imo. Petey is close #2. Both are having breakout seasons. Jack has carried his wingers all season, w/ the exception of Bratt when together. Hard to imagine anyone else scoring 29 EVG with his line mates. Biggest diff - Jack is winning. But, props to Petey. He's def. an elite player. Just depends on how much emphasis you place on winning when you compare top players.


At 5v5,

Pettersson points: 43
Hughes points: 41

Pettersson points/60: 3.36
Hughes points/60: 2.96

Pettersson EVO: 10.5
Hughes EVO: 12.1

Pettersson EVD: 3.2
Hughes EVD: 0.4

Pettersson has higher points/60 rate, but Hughes has better overall EVO. Pettersson however is far better defensively. Pettersson has made all of his linemates look elite. Kuzmenko is having a monster season, and Pettersson is a huge reason why. Boeser has been terrible all season yet somehow has 37 points in 50 games. Mikheyev is a career bottom six player but Pettersson made him look very good. While Jack Hughes is playing on a far superior team, there really is nothing Pettersson can do about the ECHL level defense and goaltending. If Petey isn't on the team, the Canucks are probably the #1 contender for Bedard. Overall I think both players are very close
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Feb. 24, 2023 at 2:38 a.m.
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Seeing coaches frustrated with player efforts after their GM tells them they aren't winning anyway and players around the league aren't even being allowed to help their teams because they "might" be traded.
I'm conflicted. Yeah, you're getting paid and should have some professional pride, but the GM is actively sabotaging your morale and ability to win games. If he gave up, why shouldn't you?
That's got to be a hard sell for a coach. You want your players to do more than "phone it in", but can you really expect them to do things like risk injury in a wasted season?

How do you motivate your players when the GM prefers you lose to get better picks and your paycheck isn't dependant on your performance?
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Feb. 24, 2023 at 5:33 a.m.
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Quoting: Juiceman
Pettersson EVO: 10.5
Hughes EVO: 12.1

I wonder if this metric (they're from EH, right?) incorporate transition data.
The sheer amount of exits and entries, be it from carries or passes, that Hughes generates on a nightly basis is nothing short of ridiculous.
I'd suspect Hughes has Pettersson handedly beat in that department.
Feb. 24, 2023 at 6:32 a.m.
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Common Columbus L


Lol in my line trade deadline predictions I had this exact same thought process, with the exception that I had Gavrikov going to Oilers.

There's still time to make it happen 👀
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