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Team: 2022-23 New Jersey Devils
Initial Creation Date: Feb. 24, 2023
Published: Feb. 24, 2023
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  1. Meier, Timo ($3,000,000 retained)
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2023
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2024
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$82,500,000$76,622,458$0$565,000$5,877,542
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$6,000,000$6,000,000
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NMC
UFA - 5
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
C
UFA - 8
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$5,450,000$5,450,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$7,250,000$7,250,000
C
UFA - 5
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$400,000$400K)
RW, C
RFA - 2
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$3,200,000$3,200,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$975,000$975,000
C
RFA - 1
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$825,000$825,000
RW
UFA - 1
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$2,375,000$2,375,000
C, LW
UFA - 1
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$874,125$874,125
C, LW
RFA - 1
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$750,000$750,000
RW
RFA - 1
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$0$0
LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$3,166,667$3,166,667
LD
UFA - 1
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$9,000,000$9,000,000
RD
NMC
UFA - 6
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
G
UFA - 3
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$1,125,000$1,125,000
LD
UFA - 1
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$4,400,000$4,400,000
RD
UFA - 5
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$2,800,000$2,800,000
G
UFA - 1
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
LD/RD, LW
UFA - 2
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$4,166,666$4,166,666
RD
UFA - 1
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$850,833$850,833 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
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RFA - 2
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$795,000$795,000 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
LD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$4,125,000$4,125,000
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UFA - 1

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Feb. 24, 2023 at 1:43 p.m.
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That's quite a lot, I think one of Muk or Yegor can be removed and the Sharks still accept
Feb. 24, 2023 at 1:47 p.m.
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Quoting: pretzelcoatl
That's quite a lot, I think one of Muk or Yegor can be removed and the Sharks still accept


Except they are currently asking for Mercer and picks as a starter. The price on Timo is very high.
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Feb. 24, 2023 at 1:48 p.m.
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Quoting: Scoob1978
Except they are currently asking for Mercer and picks as a starter. The price on Timo is very high.


People keep saying this but the only reputable report I've heard is that Mercer was asked about. It's silly to think Mercer will be traded.
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Feb. 24, 2023 at 1:53 p.m.
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Yeah we don’t need to throw Shara into it. A 1st/Holtz/Mukh or Casey deal should get it done. If not, then we move on.
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Feb. 24, 2023 at 2:00 p.m.
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Quoting: Scoob1978
Except they are currently asking for Mercer and picks as a starter. The price on Timo is very high.


If it were as cheap and easy as your fellow Dev fan says then it would be done. SJ wants a lot from the Devils.
Feb. 24, 2023 at 2:02 p.m.
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Quoting: sleeparc
If it were as cheap and easy as your fellow Dev fan says then it would be done. SJ wants a lot from the Devils.


You can want the merc-dawg all you want. But you simply will never have him. Keep dreaming. If that’s the sticking point, we’ll gladly NOT do the trade.
Feb. 24, 2023 at 2:08 p.m.
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Quoting: pretzelcoatl
People keep saying this but the only reputable report I've heard is that Mercer was asked about. It's silly to think Mercer will be traded.


I think the exact report is deal is stalling cause sharks are insistent on mercer
Feb. 24, 2023 at 2:17 p.m.
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Quoting: sharcuda22
I think the exact report is deal is stalling cause sharks are insistent on mercer


Yeah there's no deal if that's the case. I'd consider it one for one, but it's unrealistic and at that point I'd rather trade Nemec. Mercer may not end up as good as Meier but he's the real deal and it's too much to trade him along with other premium assets.
Feb. 24, 2023 at 2:22 p.m.
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Quoting: sharcuda22
I think the exact report is deal is stalling cause sharks are insistent on mercer


I'm not sure Grier expects to get Mercer. He's likely setting the price high and will go down to an equivalent value of Mercer in high end prospects.
He's also patient, allowing other teams enter into the conversation. Now with Perfetti out for the season, WPG may very likely be in on Timo as well.
Feb. 24, 2023 at 2:34 p.m.
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Quoting: AStovetop
I'm not sure Grier expects to get Mercer. He's likely setting the price high and will go down to an equivalent value of Mercer in high end prospects.
He's also patient, allowing other teams enter into the conversation. Now with Perfetti out for the season, WPG may very likely be in on Timo as well.


Times ticking. Matter of time before we pivot.
Feb. 24, 2023 at 2:38 p.m.
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Times ticking. Matter of time before we pivot.


To what? There's a full week before the Deadline. Not every deal is going to be done before deadline day.
Friedman also reported today that likely teams are waiting until after Marleau's jersey retirement to re-engage in substantial discussions since this is a huge deal for the Sharks org, and they don't want to take away from the special weekend.
Feb. 24, 2023 at 2:39 p.m.
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Quoting: AStovetop
To what? There's a full week before the Deadline. Not every deal is going to be done before deadline day.
Friedman also reported today that likely teams are waiting until after Marleau's jersey retirement to re-engage in substantial discussions since this is a huge deal for the Sharks org, and they don't want to take away from the special weekend.


Schmaltz, Boeser, Vrana…..Something that’s not going to cost us an arm and a leg
Feb. 24, 2023 at 3:59 p.m.
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Quoting: AStovetop
I'm not sure Grier expects to get Mercer. He's likely setting the price high and will go down to an equivalent value of Mercer in high end prospects.
He's also patient, allowing other teams enter into the conversation. Now with Perfetti out for the season, WPG may very likely be in on Timo as well.


I mean if I was Grier I would stand firm on mercer, we want assists that will cumulatively be better than or at least equal to meier in the future, everyone should be able to agree that mercer's ceiling isnt as high as timo as currently play but that he will be/ already is a great great player. So mercer + is a good starting point
Feb. 24, 2023 at 4:07 p.m.
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Quoting: sharcuda22
I mean if I was Grier I would stand firm on mercer, we want assists that will cumulatively be better than or at least equal to meier in the future, everyone should be able to agree that mercer's ceiling isnt as high as timo as currently play but that he will be/ already is a great great player. So mercer + is a good starting point


Non starter. If you can’t get past Mercer as a sticking point, there will be no deal.
Feb. 24, 2023 at 4:13 p.m.
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Quoting: sharcuda22
I mean if I was Grier I would stand firm on mercer, we want assists that will cumulatively be better than or at least equal to meier in the future, everyone should be able to agree that mercer's ceiling isnt as high as timo as currently play but that he will be/ already is a great great player. So mercer + is a good starting point


Have you ever seen any star player trade go down like this? that's simply not how player value works
Feb. 24, 2023 at 4:24 p.m.
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Quoting: RV23
Non starter. If you can’t get past Mercer as a sticking point, there will be no deal.


thats okey the sharks don't need to bend over because devils fans love their prospects
Feb. 24, 2023 at 4:28 p.m.
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Quoting: dgibb10
Have you ever seen any star player trade go down like this? that's simply not how player value works


You've never seen young players get traded for star players in their prime?
Feb. 24, 2023 at 4:43 p.m.
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thats okey the sharks don't need to bend over because devils fans love their prospects


Except he’s NOT a prospect. He plays on our top line. So why would we trade him? Our GM made it clear, we’ll make a move IF it makes sense. This makes ZERO sense. Dude is 21 years old and has 80 points in his first 140 games. We know you’re drooling over there, but you aren’t getting him.
Feb. 24, 2023 at 4:57 p.m.
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Except he’s NOT a prospect. He plays on our top line. So why would we trade him? Our GM made it clear, we’ll make a move IF it makes sense. This makes ZERO sense. Dude is 21 years old and has 80 points in his first 140 games. We know you’re drooling over there, but you aren’t getting him.


Mercer would look great in teal but id rather have meier, and if you do some snooping on my page you'll see that my first option is always to keep meier because its highly unlikely we get a player that will be as good as him in our return. Also I just meant young players, apologize for the confusion, thats what sharks are looking for.
Feb. 24, 2023 at 5:00 p.m.
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Quoting: sharcuda22
Mercer would look great in teal but id rather have meier, and if you do some snooping on my page you'll see that my first option is always to keep meier because its highly unlikely we get a player that will be as good as him in our return. Also I just meant young players, apologize for the confusion, thats what sharks are looking for.


You’ll be getting your wish of Meier staying if there’s no other avenue other than Mercer.
Feb. 24, 2023 at 5:01 p.m.
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Quoting: RV23
You’ll be getting your wish of Meier staying if there’s no other avenue other than Mercer.


we hope so! Wanna see the meier hertl eklund line next year
Feb. 24, 2023 at 5:08 p.m.
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Quoting: sharcuda22
You've never seen young players get traded for star players in their prime?


Yeah, guys 1 year away from UFA don't get that kind of value back.
Feb. 24, 2023 at 5:33 p.m.
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Yeah, guys 1 year away from UFA don't get that kind of value back.


uhhhhhhhhhh hes an RFA so if you trade for him you can sign him to an extension that is long than one year? Im not sure what the point is here
Feb. 24, 2023 at 5:34 p.m.
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uhhhhhhhhhh hes an RFA so if you trade for him you can sign him to an extension that is long than one year? Im not sure what the point is here


He has a 10 mill QO that he can take and hit UFA in 1 year if he wants
Feb. 24, 2023 at 5:41 p.m.
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Quoting: dgibb10
He has a 10 mill QO that he can take and hit UFA in 1 year if he wants


he could but who would take 10 mil over 72 mil w/ a team contending of the next 5+ years and is right next to the most famous city in the US
 
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