May I ask why Red Wings give up Vrana for a 4th liner

"I don't think Chief is going anywhere but Van Ryn and MacTavish should be gone."

This part I 100% agree with. McTavish is even more useless than Van Ryn.

Just going off of what Friedman said re: showcasing him for a trade and that he expects Detroit would have to incentivize someone to take him. What do you think will happen with Vrana?

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Red Wings are undefeated with Vrana in the lineup, they can't afford to move him if they're going for a playoff spot

I'm sure he was shopping him for contending teams looking to pay well for a goal scorer for the playoffs.

He has two years left on his contract -- he's not particularly being forced to trade him. Yzerman is more than likely willing to let Vrana simmer in Detroit and give him a good opportunity to either
A) Be resigned
or
B) Be traded at next deadline if Red Wings don't particularly need him.
One thing is for sure, Vrana will definitely fetch more than that.

I agree that he's not forced to do anything but 5.25m in cap space could be more enticing than trying to infuse value in someone who is not part of the future of the team. Anyway if he costs more than that I still think the Blues should take a chance on a guy like Vrana who they can feed top 6 minutes and don't have to sink a ton of years into a contract like they would signing a UFA. They need skaters to fill the gap while Bolduc and Snuggerud are developing.

Yeah Detroit isn't dealing Jakub Vrana for Josh Leivo, Kind of defeats the purpose of even dealing him.

Detroit would have more interest in Robert Bortuzzo, As Yzerman is seeking a big RHD for the bottom pairing.

As always vrana depends on how bad Yzerman wants him gone still I hope it's more a pick than a useless players

I don’t think he has any value today. Maybe next season if he can return to previous Vrana before shoulder injury and player assistance program.

His contract is above 5 million….and he is owed that next year…to trade him today the wings have to pay. That’s a huge cap hit and a lot of dollars for a huge risk.

It’s probably best for the Wings to give him what he needs to return to his previous form. Everybody can recover from a shoulder issue and a player assistance issue, but that’s a combined effort of the individual and an organization. I hope he does.

I would add that the fact that the wings brought him back up to the NHL indicates to me he is on the path to recovery.

Interesting. If that's what he's looking for he can probably get it during this fire sale.

Yeah fair. Only issue with that is Red Wings won't really be in a cap-constrained position for next year unless Stevie offers an absurdly bad offer to Larkin + Bertuzzi.
Yeah it means we won't be able to get a big name over the off-season, but there really aren't any intriguing UFAs this offseason that aren't going to be resigned by the team they were traded to.

This 5 mil cap hit is being used so much but like we're not in a situation where we need to ship him off at all.
If he reverts back to his former self, whats the issue. If not, don't resign him.
We will have the capspace to keep him for next year, so why would Stevie trade him knowing we can probably get something far better next season.
He will be on a one year contract next year. This isn't like Johannson in NSH.

Yup especially the way him and Doug Armstrong have been dealing with each other here lately, Wouldn't shock me he still has term left at a reasonable $950,000.

Agree.

For a team like the blues who do have cap issues, 5 million is quite a big problem.

It isn’t out of the question that Vrána recovers and becomes great! Detroit may want to retain him after his contract ends next year. He seems to be doing well now, but still some work going forward to continue down that path.

Going through an injury has to be really hard on pro athletes. Entire life changes, free time every hour of the day, not around your friends, surgeries, etc.

Didn't realize that Blues had cap issues, but that makes a Vrana to the Blues even more obscure.

As for Vrana's recovery: Darren McCarty went through **** and ended up recovering, so I imagine Yzerman is tasking his old buddy to help.

Friedman has been predicting Bertuzzi to Toronto at every TDL and offseason for the past 4 years. He is probably one of the most respected sources when it comes to trade rumors but his accuracy is still about the same as flipping a coin. I have no idea what will happen with Vrana but people on this site put far too much faith into what Friedman says.

Sure, I mean all the insiders are just throwing poop at the wall and seeing what sticks, but isn't that what the ACGM is for too? I don't think everything Friedman says is true and accurate but his credibility has to be higher than mine. If you assume that Vrana has a low acquisition cost I think the Blues should inquire.