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Meiers Rights

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Team: 2023-24 Detroit Red Wings
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 3, 2023
Published: Mar. 3, 2023
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Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
5$8,500,000
2$1,500,000
8$9,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$2,500,000
2$3,500,000
2$1,500,000
1$1,500,000
Offer Sheets
Offer sheet annual average (AAV) is calculated by dividing the contract value by the lower of: 1. The contract length, or 2. Five years
PLAYERAAVCOMPENSATION
Dubois, Pierre-Luc$8,500,000
2024 1st round pick
2024 2nd round pick
2024 3rd round pick
2025 1st round pick
Trades
1.
DET
EDM
  1. Kubalik, Dominik
Additional Details:
Traded to... someone? for something? at 23 TDL
2.
DET
  1. Meier, Timo [RFA Rights]
NJD
  1. Vrána, Jakub
Additional Details:
Lower of 2 2023 1sts
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$79,061,389$0$5,282,500$4,438,611
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$9,500,000$9,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 8
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$8,700,000$8,700,000
C
NTC
UFA - 8
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
RW, LW
RFA - 1
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$5,625,000$5,625,000
C, LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
$8,500,000$8,500,000
C
UFA - 8
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$1,460,000$1,460,000
LW, C
UFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
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$918,333$918,333 (Performance Bonus$1,000,000$1M)
C
RFA - 3
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$4,000,000$4,000,000
LW
UFA - 2
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$1,500,000$1,500,000
C
RFA - 1
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$1,100,000$1,100,000
RW, LW
RFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
LD
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UFA - 3
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
RD
RFA - 1
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
LD
RFA - 3
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$820,000$820,000 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
LD
RFA - 1
$3,500,000$3,500,000
G
UFA - 5
Logo of the Detroit Red Wings
$3,000,000$3,000,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$4,750,000$4,750,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
C, LW
UFA - 2
$1,500,000$1,500,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
$1,500,000$1,500,000
C, RW
UFA - 3

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Mar. 3, 2023 at 8:48 a.m.
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don't think NJ will trade Meier's rights for someone they could have had for free
Mar. 3, 2023 at 8:49 a.m.
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Quoting: SJSGM
someone they could have had for free


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Mar. 3, 2023 at 8:51 a.m.
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not getting them for free

toss in a couple 1st rounders IF Jersey decides to use him just as a rental
Mar. 3, 2023 at 8:52 a.m.
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
not getting them for free

toss in a couple 1st rounders IF Jersey decides to use him just as a rental


FA rights after the season/playoffs end usually go for a 4th. You know that, right?
Mar. 3, 2023 at 8:53 a.m.
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FA rights after the season/playoffs end usually go for a 4th. You know that, right?


luckily he is RFA
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Mar. 3, 2023 at 8:54 a.m.
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luckily he is RFA


Ohh, I honestly didn't realize that. Apologies for my snark.

I think some picks might be fair on top of Vrana, but I don't know about multiple 1sts here.
Mar. 3, 2023 at 8:56 a.m.
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Quoting: dtd_tank
Ohh, I honestly didn't realize that. Apologies for my snark.

I think some picks might be fair on top of Vrana, but I don't know about multiple 1sts here.


it will certainly be mighty expensive seeing how much he went for a few days ago

also Dubois is going to MTL as he has pretty much said that its the only place he will sign long term
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Mar. 3, 2023 at 8:57 a.m.
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
it will certainly be mighty expensive seeing how much he went for a few days ago

also Dubois is going to MTL as he has pretty much said that its the only place he will sign long term


Yeah I'm being ignorant regarding PLD. If he got offered an OS, obviously he could refuse. I'm just pretending he wouldn't smile
Mar. 3, 2023 at 8:58 a.m.
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His rights would top out at what Fiala's rights were
Mar. 3, 2023 at 8:59 a.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
His rights would top out at what Fiala's rights were


honestly that's a great comp (as I was struggling to remember one off the top of my head)
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Mar. 3, 2023 at 8:59 a.m.
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Devils would immediately hangup and screen their calls from now on
Mar. 3, 2023 at 9:01 a.m.
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
honestly that's a great comp (as I was struggling to remember one off the top of my head)


Yeah I'm thinking maybe add the lower of the NYI/DET 23 pick this year plus DET 2nd
Mar. 3, 2023 at 9:01 a.m.
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Yeah NJ passes.

PLD won't sign an offer sheet from Detroit, When he wants to go home to Montreal.
Mar. 3, 2023 at 9:06 a.m.
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if PLD signs that, the Jets would laugh and sign him
Mar. 3, 2023 at 9:11 a.m.
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First, we just got Meier. Let us at least play him first.

Second, the offer is missing ____(a lot)

Third, Vrana probably don't have much positive value right now...to a lot of teams, including ours, he would be a negative asset.

Four, Fiala doesn't work as a comp. It would have for San Jose or any team looking to sell him. But NJD is looking to extend him, not trade him.
Mar. 3, 2023 at 9:14 a.m.
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Meier isn’t going anywhere. He’ll probably retire a Devil or at least play with us well into his 30’s
Mar. 3, 2023 at 9:15 a.m.
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
His rights would top out at what Fiala's rights were


Why would the "top out" there? Considering NJD wanted Meier for long term (and Meier wanted NJ)...it would be have to be offer-they-cannot-refuse type of bid.
Mar. 3, 2023 at 9:16 a.m.
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Why would the "top out" there? Considering NJD wanted Meier for long term (and Meier wanted NJ)...it would be have to be offer-they-cannot-refuse type of bid.


I mean, if they were going to trade him it would be because they couldnt sign him.
Mar. 3, 2023 at 9:20 a.m.
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I mean, if they were going to trade him it would be because they couldnt sign him.


He wanted to be here. He is happy now he is here. We have the cap space.

Would be surprised if scenario ever presented itself.

But if it did, and considering the price we just paid was 'without extension' price....I'd think the return would be a lot more than a cap dump and a pick.
Mar. 3, 2023 at 9:22 a.m.
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He wanted to be here. He is happy now he is here. We have the cap space.

Would be surprised if scenario ever presented itself.

But if it did, and considering the price we just paid was 'without extension' price....I'd think the return would be a lot more than a cap dump and a pick.


Yea, i said the Fiala return, which was a 1st and a prospect.
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Mar. 3, 2023 at 9:29 a.m.
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8 x $9.5 is pretty steep for Meier IMO. Larkin, Horvat and Barzal all just signed for less. They all play a more important position (center) and have similar scoring numbers over the past x years.

Barzal: 254, 65-150-215 0.846 P/GP
Larkin: 246, 81-122-203 0.825 P/GP
Meier: 258, 100-108-208 0.806 P/GP
Horvat: 256-108-98-206 0.805 P/GP
Mar. 3, 2023 at 9:30 a.m.
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Wellll this just went to **** LOL
Mar. 3, 2023 at 9:31 a.m.
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First, we just got Meier. Let us at least play him first.

Second, the offer is missing ____(a lot)

Third, Vrana probably don't have much positive value right now...to a lot of teams, including ours, he would be a negative asset.

Four, Fiala doesn't work as a comp. It would have for San Jose or any team looking to sell him. But NJD is looking to extend him, not trade him.


Just a random guess here, but I'd estimate Vrana could return a 7th and an AHLer if they retained 50%. Just off the top of my head.
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Mar. 3, 2023 at 10:02 a.m.
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Just a random guess here, but I'd estimate Vrana could return a 7th and an AHLer if they retained 50%. Just off the top of my head.


Gosh…well, now, that’s easy.

But pre-trade, I had been saying Vrana was probably on the border of positive and negative depending on what team you are talking to.
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