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Created by: Hammerwise
Team: 2023-24 Philadelphia Flyers
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 15, 2023
Published: Mar. 15, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
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Just out of interest for potentially TOR trading Matthews before his expiry year and the return/options....

Matthews alone gets tippett, farabee, CAM YORK, the two 2024 1sts (both might be top 10) as a start, but getting rid of oft injured 4.6mil backup goalie Murray lessens CAM YORK to Sanheim...
Free Agent Signings
RESERVE LISTYEARSCAP HIT
3$825,000
3$825,000
3$825,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$925,000
3$925,000
3$925,000
3$925,000
3$1,425,000
3$1,425,000
3$1,425,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$1,150,000
3$4,250,000
Trades
1.
TOR
  1. Ersson, Samuel
  2. Farabee, Joel
  3. Sanheim, Travis
  4. Tippett, Owen
  5. 2024 1st round pick (PHI)
  6. 2024 1st round pick (FLA)
2.
PHI
  1. 2024 2nd round pick (CAR)
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (PHI)
3.
COL
  1. Hayes, Kevin ($1,642,857 retained)
  2. Zamula, Yegor
  3. 2024 2nd round pick (CAR)
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the FLA
Logo of the NYR
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the EDM
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the OTT
Logo of the PHI
2024
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the LAK
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the PHI
2025
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the PHI
Logo of the PHI
ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$75,952,107$1,187,500$425,000$7,547,893
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$825,000$825,000
LW, C
RFA
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$11,640,250$11,640,250
C
NMC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
$4,250,000$4,250,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$7,750,000$7,750,000
C
NMC
UFA - 7
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$425,000$425K)
RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$863,333$863,333
RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$1,425,000$1,425,000
C
RFA - 2
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$5,875,000$5,875,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$1,750,000$1,750,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$1,425,000$1,425,000
C, LW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$785,000$785,000
RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$1,150,000$1,150,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$4,725,000$4,725,000
LD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$1,675,000$1,675,000
RD
UFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$3,979,000$3,979,000
G
RFA - 1
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$1,425,000$1,425,000
LD/RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$5,100,000$5,100,000
RD
UFA - 4
Logo of the Toronto Maple Leafs
$4,687,500$4,687,500
G
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Colorado Avalanche
$5,000,000$5,000,000
LD/RD
UFA - 4
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$925,000$925,000
RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$775,000$775,000
LD/RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Philadelphia Flyers
$6,250,000$6,250,000
RD
UFA - 4

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Mar. 15, 2023 at 11:25 a.m.
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Hunter Mikosz
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I kind of like this and am also scared if they would do this and not have the money for Matthews the following season.
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Mar. 15, 2023 at 12:19 p.m.
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Prime overvaluation of your own team
Mar. 15, 2023 at 12:20 p.m.
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Prime overvaluation of your own team


Of the players traded or kept or both?
Mar. 15, 2023 at 12:26 p.m.
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AM is a generational talent, you aren’t getting him - even in a contract year - for any assets that the Flyers have. I don’t mean this as a slight to Philly…you just don’t get AM level of players for quantity.

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Of the players traded or kept or both?
Mar. 15, 2023 at 12:39 p.m.
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While I somewhat agree, you’re not getting a Matthews for a Matthews, and Toronto based on how they do this playoffs has to do something.

If they cant really make hay this post season and then cant agree a new contract this offseason, you are looking at the status quo, and I just cant see Toronto going towards the TDL, as ever a top 4 club in the East, and then dealing him at deadline or dealing his rights for a lot less. I cant see them just doing that at the TDL, it would make no sense that late in season and really limits the buyers (cap space). So if they don’t really make it past round 2 this post season, what can you do? After discussion on another thread, Matthews probably wants to go to the states, but probably not ARZ. So who would be willing, able to make that deal, taking the philly example above, for a single player and the cap dump of Murray, Toronto can get a top 6 forward, a top 8 forward, a top 4 dman to replace Brodie, etc... and build a deep and young team and get back some of the futures they currently lack and still have cap space in UFA.

Farabee, Tippett, York and 2 1sts is a pretty good offer, but obviously not a Matthews in the bunch, but I really don’t think that’ll happen. Its just a change of course for TOR while retaining cap space to build a team AND having good young players to build more than a 4-5 forward team. For PHI they have 2-3 top young forward prospects and Matthews could go into a team that has a solid core (injuries and development permitting) with Koneckny, Couturier, Hart, etc.... PHI can afford those losses and the future re-signing, if Brink/Allison look likely to replace Tippett, Foerester to replace Farabee, Zamula/Attard/Andrae to replace York. Maybe its not enough but 3 above average players under 24, a good goalie prospect in errson and 2 probable TOP TEN 1st rounders in 2024 isn;t a bad offer to fill out a team perenially relying on 4-5 players.

Look at FLA/CGY, Tkachuk is lighting it up in FLA but they don’t have depth, Huberdeau and Weegar (who was expiring) and the rest to CGY was seen as a win, but all have struggled. Certainly Tkachuk is by far the best player, but CGY has the better future.

I just don’t think that Toronto will want 6 1sts/futures, they’ll want a mix of good players, some futures to keep marner/nylander and team successful, and while maybe not the best offer theyd see, one of the few teams who could offer up a good mix of young players and picks.

Theres certainly other teams, say NYR offers lafreniere, kakko, 2 1sts, etc... but can they afford to re-sign him and based on their current success, why would they upset the apple cart?

As an example I've done a second ACGM of what TOR would look like, and its interesting for sure
 
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