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Trade Debrincat

Created by: AdrianBestGirl
Team: 2023-24 Ottawa Senators
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 18, 2023
Published: Mar. 18, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$2,500,000
1$800,000
1$800,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$4,000,000
Trades
OTT
  1. Morrow, Scott [Reserve List]
  2. Teräväinen, Teuvo
  3. 2023 1st round pick (CAR)
Additional Details:
Comes with an extension with Teravainen.
CAR
  1. DeBrincat, Alex [RFA Rights]
  2. Thomson, Lassi
  3. 2024 4th round pick (TBL)
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2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$83,313,213$0$1,850,000$186,787
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$8,205,714$8,205,714
LW
UFA - 5
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$8,350,000$8,350,000
C
UFA - 8
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, C
NMC
UFA - 2
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$5,400,000$5,400,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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$7,950,000$7,950,000
C
UFA - 7
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$4,975,000$4,975,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
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$863,333$863,333
C, LW
RFA - 2
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
C
RFA - 1
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$2,950,000$2,950,000
LW, RW
UFA - 3
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$838,333$838,333
LW
RFA - 1
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$835,000$835,000
C, RW
RFA - 2
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$800,000$800,000
RW
UFA - 2
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
LD
UFA - 5
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
RD
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UFA - 4
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$2,750,000$2,750,000
G
UFA - 2
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$4,600,000$4,600,000
LD/RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
$4,000,000$4,000,000
RD
UFA - 7
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$925,000$925,000
G
RFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$1,850,000$2M)
LD
UFA - 1
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$800,000$800,000
RD
RFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$762,500$762,500
LW
RFA - 1
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$762,500$762,500
LD
UFA - 1

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Mar. 18, 2023 at 8:22 a.m.
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This is laughable. Considering the Sens landed him for the 7th overall pick, and a few picks in later rounds, you want Carolina's best prospect, a top six forward, and a first? Remembering Cat wouldn't even have a contract, you're not going to get either player here. Take out Morrow and Teuvo and try again. Thomson doesn't do anything for the Canes and the 4th is just comical.
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Mar. 18, 2023 at 10:13 a.m.
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This is laughable. Considering the Sens landed him for the 7th overall pick, and a few picks in later rounds, you want Carolina's best prospect, a top six forward, and a first? Remembering Cat wouldn't even have a contract, you're not going to get either player here. Take out Morrow and Teuvo and try again. Thomson doesn't do anything for the Canes and the 4th is just comical.


The 7th overall pick has way more value than this package. Yes i know who morrow is. I’ve also seen teuvo play this year, and he isn’t adding any value to this trade.

This is a very reasonable offer.
Mar. 18, 2023 at 10:19 a.m.
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The 7th overall pick has way more value than this package. Yes i know who morrow is. I’ve also seen teuvo play this year, and he isn’t adding any value to this trade.

This is a very reasonable offer.


No, it's not. This is a drastic overpayment for a pending RFA. Teuvo on his own is worth a 1st +. Morrow was deemed untouchable for Meier. Wanting both of those for Cat is an absolute joke. This is a comical offer. If you cannot see that, you need to watch more of Cat.
Mar. 18, 2023 at 10:30 a.m.
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No, it's not. This is a drastic overpayment for a pending RFA. Teuvo on his own is worth a 1st +. Morrow was deemed untouchable for Meier. Wanting both of those for Cat is an absolute joke. This is a comical offer. If you cannot see that, you need to watch more of Cat.


Teuvo has had a pretty bad year. I don’t think anyone is champing at the bit to add him.

Likewise, Morrow didn’t really take a step this year. I wouldn’t say he necessarily took a step back, but his development definitely seemed to stall a bit. It’s a late first, a good prospect, and an okay roster player with a pretty big chunk of cap for the RFA rights to a 25 year old who has scored 40 twice (and was on a 50 goal pace in the shortened season). That’s fair, if not a hair underwhelming for Ottawa. You’re overrating your favorite teams assets.
Mar. 18, 2023 at 10:54 a.m.
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Quoting: DefenseFirst
Teuvo has had a pretty bad year. I don’t think anyone is champing at the bit to add him.

Likewise, Morrow didn’t really take a step this year. I wouldn’t say he necessarily took a step back, but his development definitely seemed to stall a bit. It’s a late first, a good prospect, and an okay roster player with a pretty big chunk of cap for the RFA rights to a 25 year old who has scored 40 twice (and was on a 50 goal pace in the shortened season). That’s fair, if not a hair underwhelming for Ottawa. You’re overrating your favorite teams assets.


Brother, stop.

Teuvo's production has stalled, fine. He's still one of the best defensive forwards in the NHL and his underlyings are still strong. It's a down year, not regression.

Morrow definitely took a step... did you just not watch UMass? His defensive game had to take a step because he was the only player on UMass this year with legs it felt like

And a late 1st is still a 1st, you can't say it doesn't hold value because it's late in a draft THIS deep. Even the 32nd overall pick this year would have the kind of value of a 20th overall pick in other drafts.

So, stop it. Because you're either biased or clueless.
Mar. 18, 2023 at 11:29 a.m.
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Brother, stop.

Teuvo's production has stalled, fine. He's still one of the best defensive forwards in the NHL and his underlyings are still strong. It's a down year, not regression.

Morrow definitely took a step... did you just not watch UMass? His defensive game had to take a step because he was the only player on UMass this year with legs it felt like

And a late 1st is still a 1st, you can't say it doesn't hold value because it's late in a draft THIS deep. Even the 32nd overall pick this year would have the kind of value of a 20th overall pick in other drafts.

So, stop it. Because you're either biased or clueless.


I never said a first doesn’t hold value. Why even say that? I never came close to asserting that.

I went to UMass, i watch a decent amount of their games. He hasn’t progressed since last year.

Teuvo’s value is minimal. He didn’t play like a $5.5M player this year.

Where’s my bias? I’m not a senators fan. I’m not some huge Debrincat fan. I have nothing against the canes. If I have a bias, its against delusion and homerism. I would put calling this offer a comical overpay into those categories.
Mar. 18, 2023 at 11:45 a.m.
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OTT has no interest in Tuevo and would not want him in a trade
Mar. 18, 2023 at 11:55 a.m.
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I never said a first doesn’t hold value. Why even say that? I never came close to asserting that.

I went to UMass, i watch a decent amount of their games. He hasn’t progressed since last year.

Teuvo’s value is minimal. He didn’t play like a $5.5M player this year.

Where’s my bias? I’m not a senators fan. I’m not some huge Debrincat fan. I have nothing against the canes. If I have a bias, its against delusion and homerism. I would put calling this offer a comical overpay into those categories.


If you watch UMass, you'd see that Morrow's defensive game has taken leaps and bounds and that he was one of the few capable players on his team, so you are either blind or lying. I'm not sure which is worse.
Teuvo has been worth every bit of his contract, what are you on about? You say he hasn't played like a 5.5 mil player which he doesn't need to. He's played like a 5.4 million player, and that's his cap hit. Defensively elite, offensively one of the better playmakers in the sport. Or do you honestly believe that the Canes are doing this well with one of their top six coasting along? Stop it.
You said "a late first" trying to downplay its value. Do not act like that isn't what you were doing because we can all see it. This is a comical offer. If you can't see it, either watch more of DeBrincat, or perhaps focus on the things you do watch. Either way, saying this is "fair value" shows that you do not watch enough of this sport.
Mar. 18, 2023 at 12:19 p.m.
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I love how folks always put "extension" in a trade but don't tell what it is, or show how it fits into the (in this case) the Canes cap/roster of 24/25.
Just because Ottawa paid such a high price to acquire DeBrincat, doesn't mean other teams want to....for in effect one year of his QO contract.
 
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