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Created by: Caniac2000
Team: 2023-24 Carolina Hurricanes
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 21, 2023
Published: Mar. 21, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
4$4,250,000
2$6,250,000
4$4,750,000
2$3,250,000
Trades
1.
ARI
  1. Suzuki, Ryan
  2. 2023 1st round pick (CAR)
  3. 2024 2nd round pick (PHI)
2.
CAR
  1. Barabanov, Alexander ($1,250,000 retained)
SJS
  1. Honka, Anttoni
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (CAR)
  3. 2023 3rd round pick (PHI)
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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Logo of the CAR
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
21$83,500,000$82,479,417$450,000$500,000$1,020,583
Left WingCentreRight Wing
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$7,750,000$7,750,000
LW, RW
UFA - 6
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$8,460,250$8,460,250
C
UFA - 1
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$3,000,000$3,000,000
RW
RFA - 1
$6,250,000$6,250,000
RW, LW
UFA - 4
Logo of the Arizona Coyotes
$5,850,000$5,850,000
RW, C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$5,400,000$5,400,000
LW, RW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
$4,250,000$4,250,000
C, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$4,820,000$4,820,000
C
UFA - 7
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$500,000$500K)
RW
RFA - 1
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$762,500$762,500
LW, RW
UFA - 1
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$925,000$925,000
C
RFA - 1
Logo of the San Jose Sharks
$1,250,000$1,250,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$5,300,000$5,300,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$5,280,000$5,280,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$2,000,000$2,000,000
G
UFA - 4
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$5,250,000$5,250,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$4,025,000$4,025,000
RD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
$3,250,000$3,250,000
G
UFA - 4
$4,750,000$4,750,000
LD
UFA - 6
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
Logo of the Carolina Hurricanes
$1,800,000$1,800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 1

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Mar. 21, 2023 at 8:34 a.m.
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Sharks pass, not enough for Barabanov half retained. Starts with a 1st
Mar. 21, 2023 at 8:36 a.m.
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Sharks pass, not enough for Barabanov half retained. Starts with a 1st


Good joke.
Mar. 21, 2023 at 10:58 a.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Good joke.


I don't think it's unreasonable to expect a late 1st for a guy projected to put up 70 points over a full year on the worst team in the league, who is only making $1.25m after retention.
Mar. 21, 2023 at 11:04 a.m.
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I don't think it's unreasonable to expect a late 1st for a guy projected to put up 70 points over a full year on the worst team in the league, who is only making $1.25m after retention.


Did you skip over the fact he's on pace to be a -30?
Mar. 21, 2023 at 11:29 a.m.
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Did you skip over the fact he's on pace to be a -30?


Plus/Minus is one of the worst stats to track in Hockey, and is incredibly misleading. Is your team good? Your +/- is gonna be great. Does your team suck? Your +/- is gonna suck. Johnny Gaudreau was a +64 on the Flames last year, and is going to finish around -35 this year. Is he a dramatically worse player suddenly, or has the quality of players around him suddenly changed?
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Mar. 21, 2023 at 11:33 a.m.
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Plus/Minus is one of the worst stats to track in Hockey, and is incredibly misleading. Is your team good? Your +/- is gonna be great. Does your team suck? Your +/- is gonna suck. Johnny Gaudreau was a +64 on the Flames last year, and is going to finish around -35 this year. Is he a dramatically worse player suddenly, or has the quality of players around him suddenly changed?


I can make the same argument for points. Do you play on a good team and you don't get to play in an elevated role? Your production is going to take a hit. Do you get top PP time on a dumpster fire? You're going to have inflated stats

Anyway, so if you want to ignore +/- explain why his xGA is one of the worst on the Sharks roster? Why is he below replacement level in his own end? He is outscoring his xGF for good measure
Mar. 21, 2023 at 11:54 a.m.
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I can make the same argument for points. Do you play on a good team and you don't get to play in an elevated role? Your production is going to take a hit. Do you get top PP time on a dumpster fire? You're going to have inflated stats

Anyway, so if you want to ignore +/- explain why his xGA is one of the worst on the Sharks roster? Why is he below replacement level in his own end? He is outscoring his xGF for good measure


I think you can cherry pick whichever stats you want to build the narrative you want. He's one of the only forwards on the team with a corsi% above 50, is being deployed against top lines, and still has a positive GSVA. The Athletic values him at $4.8m, and you think he still isn't worth a 1st at 1.25m, just because he has a below average defensive metric.
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Mar. 21, 2023 at 12:03 p.m.
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I think you can cherry pick whichever stats you want to build the narrative you want. He's one of the only forwards on the team with a corsi% above 50, is being deployed against top lines, and still has a positive GSVA. The Athletic values him at $4.8m, and you think he still isn't worth a 1st at 1.25m, just because he has a below average defensive metric.


Evolving hockey has him as a net negative, and Dom's model also says Nick Suzuki isn't worth his deal... you really want to trust that?
Mar. 21, 2023 at 12:04 p.m.
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Evolving hockey has him as a net negative, and Dom's model also says Nick Suzuki isn't worth his deal... you really want to trust that?


Hockey Reference has him as a net positive, but if you're just going to keep moving the goalposts, this is no longer a good use of my time.
Mar. 21, 2023 at 12:10 p.m.
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Hockey Reference has him as a net positive, but if you're just going to keep moving the goalposts, this is no longer a good use of my time.


I'm not moving the goalposts, and HR does not have him as a net positive. He's still got negatives in both expected stats... stop chatting out of your backside
Mar. 21, 2023 at 12:29 p.m.
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Quoting: Caniac2000
Did you skip over the fact he's on pace to be a -30?


Disputing points with plus minus has the be the dumbest thing I’ve seen on this site. They are the 2nd worst team, they give up goals. Please tell me the last player who was making $1.25 mil that scored put up 50+ points and got traded for a late 2nd
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Mar. 21, 2023 at 12:29 p.m.
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Good joke.


God damn you are sooooo biased
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Mar. 21, 2023 at 12:47 p.m.
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Disputing points with plus minus has the be the dumbest thing I’ve seen on this site. They are the 2nd worst team, they give up goals. Please tell me the last player who was making $1.25 mil that scored put up 50+ points and got traded for a late 2nd


Ryan Dzingel, and he came with a 20 goal season
Mar. 21, 2023 at 12:48 p.m.
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God damn you are sooooo biased


And you're such a clown tears of joy
Mar. 21, 2023 at 12:55 p.m.
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And you're such a clown tears of joy


You suck at assessing value so you resort to name calling. Get a new hobby because this clearly isn't for you
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Mar. 21, 2023 at 1:02 p.m.
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You suck at assessing value so you resort to name calling. Get a new hobby because this clearly isn't for you


And since when do you get to decide what I do? Get lost. If you want to get involved, use stats or numbers and try to justify your opinions here. I did not escalate the situation, I just give back what I get. Can't deal with that? "Get a new hobby because this clearly isn't for you"
Mar. 21, 2023 at 5:48 p.m.
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And since when do you get to decide what I do? Get lost. If you want to get involved, use stats or numbers and try to justify your opinions here. I did not escalate the situation, I just give back what I get. Can't deal with that? "Get a new hobby because this clearly isn't for you"


Wait are you the same dude that was saying you'd take Teräväinen over Timo? lol
 
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