PLD averages 18 minutes TOI this season playing under PPG pace. Hard to imagine he gets 9.5 on the open market lmao. I'd say somewhere around the 7-7.5 mark. He's a 2C.

He doesn't want to play anywhere else. He wants to go home to Quebec. Montreal has leverage. They don't have to jump or bite on a trade when they can re-tool for another year and just wait for him to walk. Unless they REALLY want him for next year, they don't need to make any quick decisions.

But that's the thing if he goes to ufa I feel like he doesn't go to mtl as mtl would have had 2+ years to aquire him and without getting some type of mutual interest he may go elsewhere. Money is also important as if he goes ufa he's getting 9.5m on a 7 year deal most likely and mtl would need to compete with all teams where Dubois has all the leverage on where he goes and will do what benefits best rather than going home. If he's gets a 8m offer with mtl and 10m with Florida or some other team with better tax that's almost 2.5m more a season. Also would mtl realistically go for him in a bidding war and jeopardize future contracts by overpaying Dubois to come home. That is my view again so that's why we need to wait so we don't have 1000+ different perspectives all Slightly different but vastly polar opposites.

PLD averages 18 minutes TOI this season playing under PPG pace. Hard to imagine he gets 9.5 on the open market lmao. I'd say somewhere around the 7-7.5 mark. He's a 2C.

He doesn't want to play anywhere else. He wants to go home to Quebec. Montreal has leverage. They don't have to jump or bite on a trade when they can re-tool for another year and just wait for him to walk. Unless they REALLY want him for next year, they don't need to make any quick decisions.

I get what you're saying, but the mention about having no mutal interest for two years is way off. There is no current mututal interest between him and MTL because the mutual interest needs to come from Chev and the Jets. MTL can't acquire him if they don't want to trade him out and hope he signs long term. I'm sure that if Dubois was UFA this summer there would be significant talks between his agent and Hugues.

As far as salary goes, that's why I hope MTL and WIN can come to an agreement this summer. MTL could get him between 7.5 to 8/yr for 7 to 8 years, instead of waiting and then having his value go up to 10+ after next year. And yes, if he goes UFA there are potentially more risk of him signing elswehere than MTL given that teams in certain regions have way less taxes.



I'm on the fence about "waiting it out". Never know what may be around the corner like another team sudenly putting up more cash. While he's saying he wants to come home, can we really trust players 100% on these things. And if we wait, could be a higher cap hit since players will ask for more if the cap goes up.

This Dubois situation is complicated as hell.. LOL!

Yes exactly. This whole situation is like an iceberg. We see the tip with all the taking and running with what is there but ultimately isn't enough to know the whole iceberg. Dubois could have said what teams he'd go to or it may be just mtl. Those are the facts of the iceberg that's under the water that are crucial in determining everything. The whole point of these agms is a prediction on what happens but since not enough info is know we're all guessing the size of the iceberg collectively. Someone may have the exact deal on here already we just can't say for certain an expected return when we don't know these parameters.

Fr this whole thing has so many aspects that can change so many variables to what makes up Dubois mind. All I can say is I hope for the best return and hope as the amount of information could lead to so many outcomes.

Except I don't see why they would want Anderson.

Habs should just offer sheet sheet him for a year, let WPG match it, then sign Dubois next season when he's a UFA and the Habs rookies are more seasoned and ready to get competitive.

I honestly can't imagine PLD stays in Winnipeg after next year. He very clearly wants to play in Montreal

Habs should just offer sheet sheet him for a year, let WPG match it, then sign Dubois next season when he's a UFA and the Habs rookies are more seasoned and ready to get competitive.

I honestly can't imagine PLD stays in Winnipeg after next year. He very clearly wants to play in Montreal

Offersheet isn’t a realistic scenario because PLD’s qualifying offer is $6m and if he elected arbitration he would get $7m+. Habs would need to offersheet at a similar level which would be a 1st, 2nd and 3rd and the Habs can’t make that offer because they traded their 2nd.

I don’t know where the 1st and 3rd os that gets parroted on here came from, but the reality is it’s based on an assumption that PLD would sign an offersheet for less than he would get in arbitration to get to the Habs 1 year sooner which is a stretch. The only OS Habs can make is 4 - 1sts.

And, yet two Jets fans think they can get that same 2024 1st plus Dach plus Beck plus plus.

And, yet two Jets fans think they can get that same 2024 1st plus Dach plus Beck plus plus.

The offersheet strategy proposed by some here isn't realistic at all. It's just another illogical attempt by uniformed posters that don't understand how offersheets work grasping at straws to rationalize poor lowball offers.

Offersheet isn’t a realistic scenario because PLD’s qualifying offer is $6m and if he elected arbitration he would get $7m+. Habs would need to offersheet at a similar level which would be a 1st, 2nd and 3rd and the Habs can’t make that offer because they traded their 2nd.

I don’t know where the 1st and 3rd os that gets parroted on here came from, but the reality is it’s based on an assumption that PLD would sign an offersheet for less than he would get in arbitration to get to the Habs 1 year sooner which is a stretch. The only OS Habs can make is 4 - 1sts.

yeah, one of them is right above this comment lmao.

he gets his undies in a twist when you don't offer your entire draft capitol and your best prospects for PLD

Offersheet isn’t a realistic scenario because PLD’s qualifying offer is $6m and if he elected arbitration he would get $7m+. Habs would need to offersheet at a similar level which would be a 1st, 2nd and 3rd and the Habs can’t make that offer because they traded their 2nd.

I don’t know where the 1st and 3rd os that gets parroted on here came from, but the reality is it’s based on an assumption that PLD would sign an offersheet for less than he would get in arbitration to get to the Habs 1 year sooner which is a stretch. The only OS Habs can make is 4 - 1sts.

It’s crazy how many people bash Anderson on this site he’s a good power forward who can score 25+ goals for a very reasonable 5.5 M .. That being said the Jets will just keep dubz for next year and deal him at the deadline to the highest bidder they don’t need to settle on a trade in the offseason

It would be funny that PLD would just give up $3-$4M instead of just signing his $6m qualifying offer. Jets match then he plays for the Jets for a bunch less than if he took another path. It’s delusional thinking. No sane person would worry about such a scenario as the Jets would just match and be forced to keep PLD as their own rental.

Except I don't see why they would want Anderson.

Because they need a winger with contract in order to not lose him after one season. No player wants to go there, might has well take those who have no choice, AKA Dubois when they traded for him. At least they had him for a couple of years until RFA or next UFA. Anderson is tied for a few years, and is a freight train coming down the wing. Will help the team.

Easy ...

But he's not a good option for Winnipeg. They have better younger options coming up.

Because they need a winger with contract in order to not lose him after one season. No player wants to go there, might has well take those who have no choice, AKA Dubois when they traded for him. At least they had him for a couple of years until RFA or next UFA. Anderson is tied for a few years, and is a freight train coming down the wing. Will help the team.

Easy ...

That's your opinion. I'm not glad to trade Anderson out, he's a hell of a player that could cost more, but with the situation in MTL, they need to move cap, and if they have to give up a good player to get Dubois, then it's the price to pay.

WIN need a good winger, proven NHLer that will cost under 7M$/yr for a couple of years. He fills in that need. May not be a Dubois, but a Dubois will cost them between 7.5 to 9M$.. That First pick is the clincher.

While he has no leverage as to where the team sends him, he still has more leverage than you think. When a player clearly indicate not wanting to sign long term with any team other than team X, the player suddenly has put his current GM in a complex situation where all other teams have considerably less interest in the player, and team X, while not having all say in the matter will be able to see if a transaction can be made in order to satisfy both teams without either getting to overpay or underpay.

This also shows that WIN could potentially find some return for the player instead of just losing him in a year (which for some reason some WIN fans have no clue that this would be the worse possible thing to happen to their team). And if for some reason people think they can get more by waiting for TDL to come by, well.. That will still depend on what Dubois' speech whill be down the line. If he's still out there saying no to long term or even extension with any team he's dealt to, then Chev just got a low return for a prime player. No team will offer a 1st overall plus assets for someone who's not wanting to extend with them. Or think about the possibility of injury half way down the season.. You suddenly lose all capacity to trade him out for even a decent return.

Anderson + 1st pick 2023 (FLA) is considerable, given Anderson's contribution in terms of size and play and that he's under contract for a few more years which gives Chev some breathing room given that most impactfull players are not looking to sign in WIN.

Not saying this is the best for WIN, but it is something that they should consider if this comes their way.. Chev should ensure that something comes their way for him. A 1st overall in 2023 (FLA) isn't something to put aside and say no to, include a good power forward with contract left.. You may have gotten something more interesting for your team.

I don't know what his true value is, but the Jets received a 1st, 2nd, and prospect for Andrew Copp as a rental. The guy who is at best a 2nd/3rd line center. Dubois is significantly better than him and will get a bigger return.