Montreal doesn't really need goaltending right now, especially not a goalie MAF's age. Why not a team like Buffalo instead?

Shhhh , you stop !
We will Gladly take MAF

Allen you can bury , we have the cap and then some
He's not making Montembault better , period.
I hate to say it because the dream was for him to bring the next cup home and it be from a win with MTL
But the reality is he's increasingly more injured every year and Monty needs a level of Support he cannot provide

Was actually going to choose Buffalo, then realized Fluery has a NTC and is probably more likely to waive it for a team like MTL.

I know Connor Brown missed the whole season but if that's all it takes to sign him, I'd gladly offer him more

Unfortunately, our genius GM probably burned the bridges by trading Nick Paul (reported by a Sens insider that it pissed off Brown)

Hey that fourth round pick will go far.....

????

Why would a rebuilding team want to bury a decent veteran goalie with term for a slightly better goalie who turns 39 next season. That's like buying a couch for a house you've just started building from scratch.



MAF wants to compete, he's not going to get that opportunity in Montreal. He may in Buffalo. I could see him waive to play there.

The pick the got for Paul, I forgot Joseph was part of that deal as well.

Why would a team want a 3 time Stanley Cup Champ and Recent Vezina Trophy Winner who's made all those he played with better ?
Gee , i wonder . . . .

Allens a great back up for Price playing limited games like with Binnington duo.
But as a Tandem Goalie , if that was possible he'd still be in STL, its just not.

Different goalies need different Dynamics.
As it stands to support Montembault properly you need 3 goalie rotation knowing come November that Allens going down with an injury as per every year increasingly more frequent since Price left .

TBL traded MTL their picks to get MTL's pick they used for Joe Finley a Giant of a Man.
MTL used their later 2nd and their 4th to get Kappanen and Farrell

oh I see. But Dorion traded Paul because 3.25 AAV x 5 years was too much for him... That's so ridiculous with the numerous of bad contracts he gave up (or traded for players with bad contracts)

The right play would have been to keep Paul, Brown, add a forward like Bjorkstrand (to replace Formenton who might have been "canceled") and then use the picks traded for DeBrincat for Chychrun instead, so you got more good defensemen earlier and a forward group that can play better at ES

But Dorion doesn't understand those things. He makes splashes to leave the average fan thinking he's a good GM.

Montreal isn't trying to win now. MAF wants to compete. He's not going to want to come to Montreal and Montreal isn't going to be looking to acquire him.

He's going to be 42/43 by the time Montreal may be competing for a playoff spot, why do you want him? So Montreal can pick in the 8-10 range instead of the 4-6 range?

Not sure how that relates to the Nick Paul trade.

Then you've ignored ever Hughes Interview ever
He put special Emphasis on values Dach's over picks at Dach's level .
That if he could trade a top 15 pick for a player of the same quality or better on a ELC he'd do it without question.

This has literally ALWAYS been his stance but some people hear "rebuild " and think we're going NYR way because Gorton's here.
Reality is Hughes has made it very clear he's not willing to do that .
At the same time he's also specified he wont take a loss to make space for rising stars, Atleast not via trade where assets are involved.

He does tons of interviews especially on TSN 690
You should give them a listen sometime and get familiar with how things are done in 2023 with this current management system

What are you smoking?

That 4th is what you make of it
Look at what we did with TBL Late picks

You were the one complaining about a 4th rounder right ?
Or was i wrong about that one ?

I mean our 4th rounder is a Hobey Baker Finalist his 2nd year after being drafted
This after leading Team USA in the Olympics and finishing 2nd in tournament scoring behind Slafkovsky.

But just a 4th rounder , right ?

Hey could work out really good. More darts to throw the better.

burying allen?? you are gonna loose the dressing room man. shorshighted useless move.

Have you been actually listening to Hughes or are you just listening for what you want to hear.

He also literally just said a week ago he doesn't expect to be playoff competitive for 2 to 3 years and threw cold water on the idea of acquiring veterans.

And are you really comparing Dach, which was the end result of a series of moves that basically saw Montreal turn a 2018 2nd round D-man Montreal didn't need for a 2019 3rd OA forward that Montreal did to a goalie turning 39 in November.

fleury got 2 of those cups on the bench
Fleury is more the reason his teams failed to get more cups than winning any.

Why would he if its a team build on youth ?
Again the upside is for Montembault and it extends past just this year.

MTL's last 2 playoff runs we werent even suppose to be there and were underdogs but we had Great Goaltending Tandem and what happened?
I listen to Hughes and yourself , and also look at the big picture in Context to what you've both said .

What Hughes said makes 100%
What you said is "we dont build until we're ready to contend " without understanding you build a contender on youth by competing .
It'll take 2-3 years for most of our Dcore to mature and become a top core like ANA , NSH, TBL and LAK among others did with theirs.

There's no harm in having MAF there for run support on an underdog campaign

Who's had success without the tandem of Murray -Fleury ?
Fleury made a Final and won a Vezina you say ?


What's Murray done in Contrast?
Remove Murray and leave Fleury -Jarry in PIT and they 3peat

fleury was also horrible against montreal. remove fleury in the early 2010 and they have 5 cups. fleury is not bad but he might be the most inconsistent playoff gaoltender i have ever seen.

How ? MTL barely competed in that timeline Outside 1 run we blew our load on for Molsons first year as owner and we failed cause PHI out gooned our players and they woulda gooned PIT too .Nothing you said made sense it just came out sounding like Jim Carey mockingly responding to someone .

The fact that you're this hell bent on proving a 3 time cup winner and Vezina trophy winner is less talented the Murray is baffling to me given we know thats factually untrue.
My point about remove Murray and putting Fleury AND JARRY as Tandem and its a 3peat was maybe to vague for you.
If he can make that chowder head Murray look Elite he coulda rode a Tandem with Jarry with much less effort as Jarry >Murray .

i have no clue how what you are saying relates to anything i'm talking about.

i guess i'll explain in a different way. people keep talking about fleury's success, his cup as a starter, his vezina (which are great success for real!) But people forget that he got pulled out fron starting goaktebder twice during their cup run. and why? Because fleury chockes and chokes again in the playoffs. he did it for years in pittsburg, that why they switched murray. after his first cup, the pens were favorties for years and fleury was horrible horible horible. they started getting cups again when they let go of trusting fleury. and same thing with vegas. Fleury cost them that series against montreal, he gave away game 3 just like he gave away the worls juniors. (forgot to say fleury was also very solid during vegas first run too)

Fleury is one of the best goalies of this generation. He might also be the most inconsistent to ever play the game. 4 out of his 6 last playoffs run, fleury ended it on the bench.