I love the 3rd line

JR also really likes Mikheyev. Maybe that's why he signed him in the offseason

Canucks pass. Rust is older, more expensive, signed for longer, and had a lower PPG this season despite Mikheyev playing with a torn ACL

Canucks pass.

Sabres pass

Mayfield would already be resigned if he would take that salary, he will get at least 4x4.

I agree that this probably isn't enough but I don't think it's terribly far off though for a starting point. If we add a pick and/or prospect I can see it being feasible

The foundation of the trade doesn't make any sense from the Canucks perspective. Mikheyev adds exactly what the Canucks need with speed and his ability on the PK. Not to mention he was a great fit with Petey and Kuzmenko. Swapping wingers just for the sake of swapping wingers doesn't make any sense.

CHI is taking Granlund's 2x5 off PIT's hands for nothing?

Yeah, no!

Were in a tough spot bro just trying to have some hope lol. Our GM did a number on this roster

Nylander is the opposite of what Hawks want their wingers to be. Take him out and add the Pens 2024 1st and Hawks probably accept

Canucks decline. Mikheyev was acquired for his speed and PKing ability, two things the Canucks desperately need. He's a much better fit for what we need than Rust is, while being younger, cheaper, and better despite playing injured all season.

I like this team - I'm just not sure any of these trades go through

Thanks. I think it's possible to offload these contracts, I'm just not sure how lol.

Oh I know it's definitely not easy haha - I'm not sure either. I'm thinking CHI and ARI would just want a pick or a prospect added. BUF could use Petry - but I think they might be more inclined to just spend that 6mil on a player in free agency. I'm sure that's why you added in Bjorkvist and Legare - to sweeten the pot - just not sure if that's enough to make them go the Petry route. But if these moves are possible I'd definitely be on board. It's a good roster

I'm not saying this trade goes through, but you can't really use speed and PK as a reason to not accept the trade - because that also describes Rust. Also, calling Mikheyev better is a giant stretch.

I'm not saying this trade goes through, but you can't really use speed and PK as a reason to not accept the trade - because that also describes Rust.

Mikheyev and Rust have put up similar stats this year, only difference is that Mikheyev was doing so with a partially torn ACL. You could easily call them equals instead if that makes more sense. Mikheyev brings speed and PK ability, which is exactly what the Canucks need. Rust may bring those skills too, but not to the extent that Mikheyev does. Those are the two things Mikheyev is known for, as they are his biggest assets. The Canucks are a team that are going to need to use their cap space very wisely over the next few years, so it doen't make sense to be trading a guy with 3 years term for a more expensive one with 5 years. Additionally, even if Rust has the same value as Mikheyev, the deal just doesn't make sense. The Canucks have seen how well Mikheyev fit in next to Petey and Kuzmenko, there's no need to move him and take the unnecessary risk that Rust doesn't fit under the Canucks system.

Yeah I think they're on a similar level - that's pretty fair. Rust has a very uncharacteristically low 8.4sh% - a bit of an outlier that's messing up his numbers this season. Sort of like Horvat but unfortunately the opposite end haha. Mikheyev is currently only 4th amongst forwards in PK time on the worst PK in the league - and I don't think his speed is anymore of an advantage to him than Rust's speed is for himself. So I don't see those two things being great assets to Mikheyev over Rust.

I like Mikheyev - I think he does the little things well and is probably better defensively than Rust. He's also slightly younger and slightly cheaper. Like I said I'm not trying to argue that this trade necessarily goes through - I just found it weird that speed and PK ability were the reasons used for why.

Why would the Canucks trade one of the guys they just signed? Mikheyev is fast, responsible defensively, good on PK, and is under 30. He is exactly what the Canucks management has been wanting. Why would they be interested in 30 year old Rust?

This is the guy the Canucks signed

Yeah I know - and?

I didn't say the guy sucked lol. I said I liked him and the players are pretty equal - and that my point was speed and PK isn't a reason for this trade to not happen. It doesn't mean Mikheyev is bad, or slow, or not useful on the PK.

Speed, defense, and PK are very big reasons to why he was signed. Management and the coach has always talked about playing with speed and opening up the ice which is exactly what Mikheyev brings. Rust does not bring these skills to the table like Mikheyev. It makes literally no sense to trade Mikheyev for a guy who does not have the beneficial skillsets that Mikheyev has

Right - I'm sure they were. But my point is speed isn't a reason to not make the trade because Rust also brings speed. Yes - he does. Rust has speed and plays the same TOI on the PK this year as Mikheyev on a significantly better PK unit.

I brought up and acknowledged the defense point. this wasn't part the original comment/discussion.

He has the same TOI on the PK despite Mikheyev missing half the year? You do realize that PK is a team unit right? One player doesn't turn an awful PK into an elite one, but you take Mikheyev away, and it isn't getting any better.


Doesn't exactly strike me as a PK guy... Speed is also very important. Canucks have enough slow skaters. Mikheyev is one of the fastest skaters in the league. He effectively used his speed to create space for his linemates Pettersson and Kuzmenko despite having a partially torn ACL. Rust is not a need. Mikheyev is