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Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 28, 2023
Published: Mar. 29, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
8$8,000,000
3$1,400,000
7$8,000,000
1$2,500,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Fantilli, Adam
3$950,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [RFA Rights]
  2. Vesalainen, Kristian [Reserve List]
WPG
  1. Beck, Owen
  2. Dvorak, Christian
  3. Harris, Jordan
  4. 2023 1st round pick (FLA)
Additional Details:
15# pick
2.
3.
LAK
  1. Edmundson, Joel ($1,750,000 retained)
Buyouts
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2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
22$83,500,000$65,473,333$1,170,000$4,892,500$18,026,667
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 8
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 7
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
$8,000,000$8,000,000
C
UFA - 8
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$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 3
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$897,500$897,500 (Performance Bonus$557,500$558K)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
Fantilli, Adam
$950,000$950,000
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$2,500,000$2,500,000
RW, LW
UFA - 1
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$1,400,000$1,400,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 2
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$835,000$835,000 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
LW, RW
RFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$1,925,000$1,925,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$275,000$275K)
RD
RFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 1
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$828,333$828,333
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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$875,000$875,000 (Performance Bonus$82,500$82K)
RD
RFA - 3
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$766,667$766,667
RD
UFA - 2
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3
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$3,400,000$3,400,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2

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Mar. 29, 2023 at 9:17 p.m.
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That is a horrible trade for LA
Mar. 29, 2023 at 9:22 p.m.
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Decent value for Dubois. Although Harris would need to be swapped out for something Winnipeg needs.
Mar. 29, 2023 at 9:23 p.m.
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Solid offer. Problem is Winnipeg is flush with LD.
Mar. 29, 2023 at 9:25 p.m.
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I saw something where the Habs can offersheet Dubois for the value of a second round pick and if the Jets keep Dubois, then they can't trade him and will have to let him walk next year. Rather do that than give up so much value
Mar. 29, 2023 at 9:26 p.m.
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Like others have suggested Winnipeg has an abundance of LHD prospects, so Harris is of little use, unless he can be flipped to another team for a pick or a RSD. That is a solid offer though.
Mar. 29, 2023 at 9:35 p.m.
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Los Angeles is not interested.
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Mar. 29, 2023 at 9:36 p.m.
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Quoting: eazy_duz_it
I saw something where the Habs can offersheet Dubois for the value of a second round pick and if the Jets keep Dubois, then they can't trade him and will have to let him walk next year. Rather do that than give up so much value


As soon as Winnipeg sees that Montreal has traded back for their 2nd, they move him somewhere else. Plus I’m not sure that Montreal would be smart starting an offer sheet war against the richest hockey owner with Montreal having so many big name RFAs coming up over the next few years.
Mar. 29, 2023 at 9:45 p.m.
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Quoting: eazy_duz_it
I saw something where the Habs can offersheet Dubois for the value of a second round pick and if the Jets keep Dubois, then they can't trade him and will have to let him walk next year. Rather do that than give up so much value


But how do you get PLD to sign an offer sheet for less than he's making now or would get in arbitration?
Mar. 29, 2023 at 9:46 p.m.
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As soon as Winnipeg sees that Montreal has traded back for their 2nd, they move him somewhere else. Plus I’m not sure that Montreal would be smart starting an offer sheet war against the richest hockey owner with Montreal having so many big name RFAs coming up over the next few years.


Or, if they're really concerned, just file for arbitration.
Mar. 29, 2023 at 9:53 p.m.
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Quoting: eazy_duz_it
I saw something where the Habs can offersheet Dubois for the value of a second round pick and if the Jets keep Dubois, then they can't trade him and will have to let him walk next year. Rather do that than give up so much value


Don’t believe everything that you read because the Habs already traded their 2nd round pick so they’d need to trade for it back before being able to make an offersheet that involves a 2nd round pick. His qualifying offer is $6M which would be a first and a third and if he goes to player elected arbitration he’d get probably $7.5M which is an offersheet the Habs can’t make because they don’t have their own 2nd round pick. So not trading for him and competing for him as a UFA is a possibility. Any offersheet less than 4 - 1st round picks the Habs can’t actually make. PLD technically could sign an offersheet for less than what he’d get in arbitration but why would he do that? Knowing the Jets will match and he has to play the year in Winnipeg for less money then if he had just elected arbitration.
Mar. 29, 2023 at 10:04 p.m.
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Quoting: Windjammer
But how do you get PLD to sign an offer sheet for less than he's making now or would get in arbitration?


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Don’t believe everything that you read because the Habs already traded their 2nd round pick so they’d need to trade for it back before being able to make an offersheet that involves a 2nd round pick. His qualifying offer is $6M which would be a first and a third and if he goes to player elected arbitration he’d get probably $7.5M which is an offersheet the Habs can’t make because they don’t have their own 2nd round pick. So not trading for him and competing for him as a UFA is a possibility. Any offersheet less than 4 - 1st round picks the Habs can’t actually make. PLD technically could sign an offersheet for less than what he’d get in arbitration but why would he do that? Knowing the Jets will match and he has to play the year in Winnipeg for less money then if he had just elected arbitration.


Also offersheets are really rare and GMs aren't actively looking to screw another over, really don't see the Habs GM doing that even if some blogger or Podcaster in Montreal has floated it as a potential option for him.. lol

If Hughes doesn't like what Chevy wants for PLD he'll simply move on, he won't pull an offersheet when Dubois is one year away from free agency.

Imo a PLD offersheet is a ridiculous notion.
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Mar. 29, 2023 at 10:05 p.m.
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That's a slight overpay, considering all MTL has to do it beat any rental offer for PLD. Best offer they could get is a late 1st and a prospect similar to Beck.

CGY 24/25 1st and Beck should be enough. Add a 2nd as a sweetener.
Mar. 29, 2023 at 10:06 p.m.
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Quoting: eazy_duz_it
I saw something where the Habs can offersheet Dubois for the value of a second round pick and if the Jets keep Dubois, then they can't trade him and will have to let him walk next year. Rather do that than give up so much value


the problem is that dubois has no reason to do it, so its not very realistic.
Mar. 29, 2023 at 10:08 p.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Also offersheets are really rare and GMs aren't actively looking to screw another over, really don't see the Habs GM doing that even if some blogger or Podcaster in Montreal has floated it as a potential option for him.. lol

If Hughes doesn't like what Chevy wants for PLD he'll simply move on, he won't pull an offersheet when Dubois is one year away from free agency.

Imo a PLD offersheet is a ridiculous notion.


Thing is, Cheveldayoff would be forced not to match an offer sheet, because if he does, he can't trade PLD for a whole year, making him a UFA next summer.

But it's scary for MTL to send a 6.3M 1 year offer sheet because MTL 2024 1st would be unprotected.
Mar. 29, 2023 at 10:22 p.m.
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Hawks might take Hoffman if they can't get to the cap floor by August, but I doubt they'd consider it before then.
Mar. 29, 2023 at 10:54 p.m.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Also offersheets are really rare and GMs aren't actively looking to screw another over, really don't see the Habs GM doing that even if some blogger or Podcaster in Montreal has floated it as a potential option for him.. lol

If Hughes doesn't like what Chevy wants for PLD he'll simply move on, he won't pull an offersheet when Dubois is one year away from free agency.

Imo a PLD offersheet is a ridiculous notion.


yeah, I think Montreal learned their lesson about lowball offer sheets. You don't want to try another one that has no chance of working and keep making enemies.
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Mar. 30, 2023 at 11:06 a.m.
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yeah, I think Montreal learned their lesson about lowball offer sheets. You don't want to try another one that has no chance of working and keep making enemies.


dont talk to montrealer about offer sheets we know them well and saw one work so why shouldnt we do it too...i wont be a lowball one either 6.3 mil cost a ist and third and winnipeg has no choice.... All they can do if from end of season to the draft try to find a better offer for dubois from someone but it wont be a high pick because contenders dont have any top 20 picks and other weeker teams will not be interested of one year of dubois
Mar. 30, 2023 at 11:35 a.m.
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dont talk to montrealer about offer sheets we know them well and saw one work so why shouldnt we do it too...i wont be a lowball one either 6.3 mil cost a ist and third and winnipeg has no choice.... All they can do if from end of season to the draft try to find a better offer for dubois from someone but it wont be a high pick because contenders dont have any top 20 picks and other weeker teams will not be interested of one year of dubois


You realize that the player has to sign an offer sheet right? What incentive does PLD have to sign an offer sheet for less than he gets in arbitration?
Mar. 30, 2023 at 12:31 p.m.
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You realize that the player has to sign an offer sheet right? What incentive does PLD have to sign an offer sheet for less than he gets in arbitration?


lots he want out of wiinnipeg right and want to come to montreal so he takes 6.3 for one year and he is gone as winnipeg will have to take the ist and 3rd picks.. because chevy will know this he will trade him before july 1st... question is for one season who will give him a top 20 pick other than montreal...remember dubois is not a superstar... his season high is 61 points less than suzuki and he doesnt win lots of faceoffs either... horvat is going to get 40+gols this year .. Dubois has never broke 30 goals yet.... he is good he is not great. top 50 not top20 and he has never been close to top 20 in any of his seasons.. that is what the number say... look it up
Mar. 30, 2023 at 12:36 p.m.
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lots he want out of wiinnipeg right and want to come to montreal so he takes 6.3 for one year and he is gone as winnipeg will have to take the ist and 3rd picks.. because chevy will know this he will trade him before july 1st... question is for one season who will give him a top 20 pick other than montreal...remember dubois is not a superstar... his season high is 61 points less than suzuki and he doesnt win lots of faceoffs either... horvat is going to get 40+gols this year .. Dubois has never broke 30 goals yet.... he is good he is not great. top 50 not top20 and he has never been close to top 20 in any of his seasons.. that is what the number say... look it up


You didn't answer the question as to why he signs a OS for less that he would get at arbitration when it doesn't benefit him in any way.

For a player that isn't that great according to you, you sure want him pretty bad. To the point of completely unrealistic scenarios to try and get him.
Mar. 30, 2023 at 12:39 p.m.
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You didn't answer the question as to why he signs a OS for less that he would get at arbitration when it doesn't benefit him in any way.


wht is he going to get in arbitration 6.6 maybe not more than that .... his season high is 61 pts not 81 pts he has never score 30 goals and he doesnt win a ton of faceoffs.... so how much is he getting in arbitration?
Mar. 30, 2023 at 1:27 p.m.
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wht is he going to get in arbitration 6.6 maybe not more than that .... his season high is 61 pts not 81 pts he has never score 30 goals and he doesnt win a ton of faceoffs.... so how much is he getting in arbitration?


You're looking at Horvat and Suzuki as comparables. Neither as good as PLD and both paid more.
Mar. 30, 2023 at 4:33 p.m.
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Quoting: Windjammer
You're looking at Horvat and Suzuki as comparables. Neither as good as PLD and both paid more.


Quoting: Windjammer
You're looking at Horvat and Suzuki as comparables. Neither as good as PLD and both paid more.


numbers say you are wrong ...look at it this way they both have outscored him and dubois has not done much in the playoffs either.... and now with their season aon the line he has 6 points in his last 17 games..

Dubois is a good player who does not makes others better suzuki is a captain who brings his teammates to the fight..... I would never trade suzuki for dublois one for one nor would the habs admin...dubois is not captain material
Mar. 30, 2023 at 4:44 p.m.
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numbers say you are wrong ...look at it this way they both have outscored him and dubois has not done much in the playoffs either.... and now with their season aon the line he has 6 points in his last 17 games..

Dubois is a good player who does not makes others better suzuki is a captain who brings his teammates to the fight..... I would never trade suzuki for dublois one for one nor would the habs admin...dubois is not captain material


He's such a bad player that you're in here day in and day out begging for him.
 
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