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Created by: eazy_duz_it

Team: 2023-24 Detroit Red Wings

Initial Creation Date: Mar. 31, 2023

Published: Mar. 31, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Free Agent Signings

RFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Veleno, Joseph		2	$1,000,000

UFA		YEARS	CAP HIT
Donato, Ryan		2	$2,600,000
Varlamov, Semyon		2	$4,650,000

Trades

DET

Faulk, Justin

STL

2023 1st round pick (DET)

Additional Details:

pick is outside top 10

Buyouts

Justin Abdelkader: $1,055,556

Retained Salary Transactions

Jakub Vrána: $2,625,000 (50%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
23	$83,500,000	$69,392,222	$0	$4,340,000	$14,107,778

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Kubalik, Dominik $2,500,000$2,500,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Larkin, Dylan $8,700,000$8,700,000 C NTC UFA - 8	Raymond, Lucas $925,000$925,000 ($2,500,000$2M) RW, LW RFA - 1
Fabbri, Robby $4,000,000$4,000,000 LW UFA - 2	Copp, Andrew $5,625,000$5,625,000 C, LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 4	Perron, David $4,750,000$4,750,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 1
Söderblom, Elmer $878,333$878,333 ($57,500$58K) LW, C RFA - 2	Rasmussen, Michael $1,460,000$1,460,000 LW, C UFA - 1	Berggren, Jonatan $925,000$925,000 RW, LW RFA - 1
Donato, Ryan $2,600,000$2,600,000 LW, C, RW UFA - 2		Zadina, Filip $1,100,000$1,100,000 RW, LW RFA - 1
Hirose, Taro $850,000$850,000 LW UFA - 1	Veleno, Joseph $1,000,000$1,000,000 C RFA - 1	Czarnik, Austin $762,500$762,500 C, RW UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Walman, Jake $3,400,000$3,400,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 3	Seider, Moritz $863,333$863,333 ($850,000$850K) RD RFA - 1	Husso, Ville $4,750,000$4,750,000 G M-NTC UFA - 2
Määttä, Olli $3,000,000$3,000,000 LD UFA - 2	Faulk, Justin $6,500,000$6,500,000 RD NTC UFA - 4	Varlamov, Semyon $4,650,000$4,650,000 G UFA - 4
Edvinsson, Simon $894,167$894,167 ($850,000$850K) LD RFA - 3	Chiarot, Ben $4,750,000$4,750,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 3
Sebrango, Donovan $828,333$828,333 ($82,500$82K) LD RFA - 2

Mar. 31, 2023 at 9:40 a.m.

JoeROFLCOPTER

Joe

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Pass. Very good chance Reinbacher would be available and Faulk is the wrong side of 30.
Good trade for Detroit just wrong time line. Also STL probably declines.

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Mar. 31, 2023 at 9:52 a.m.

Lancebmx

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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER

Pass. Very good chance Reinbacher would be available and Faulk is the wrong side of 30.
Good trade for Detroit just wrong time line. Also STL probably declines.

It's Faulk even worth that on a playoff team? I haven't seen his play at all this year.

Mar. 31, 2023 at 9:53 a.m.

JoeROFLCOPTER

Joe

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Quoting: Lancebmx

It's Faulk even worth that on a playoff team? I haven't seen his play at all this year.

Maybe not in this draft, but in a mediocre draft I wouldn't be too heartbroken if we traded like a 20OA for him.

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Mar. 31, 2023 at 10:03 a.m.

JoeROFLCOPTER

Joe

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yeah the more I think about this, Red Wings decline quicker and quicker.

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Mar. 31, 2023 at 10:14 a.m.

palhal

LongtimeLeafsufferer

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In a cap strapped league, think the Wings are much better keeping the pick, and in UFA or even a trade pick a comparable Dman for 6m

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Mar. 31, 2023 at 10:28 a.m.

mikearky

arky

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While Wings need RHD, I like Faulk, but this is way to high a price and that pick will be someone who might be here for years, whereas Faulk is older and time is shorter.

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Mar. 31, 2023 at 10:42 a.m.

dickie_boon

yotes own canada

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Quoting: Lancebmx

It's Faulk even worth that on a playoff team? I haven't seen his play at all this year.

faulk is really good, he would flourish in this environment

Mar. 31, 2023 at 11:29 a.m.

Blues4Life

Joined: Jun. 2016

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Even though Blues have zero top 4 RHD prospects to replace Faulk, STL says yes. Worst comes to worst, they flip a couple of the 4 1sts they'd have for a top 4 RHD or sign Severson.

Mar. 31, 2023 at 12:45 p.m.

MoSeider53

Future Norris guy

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Detroit passes, We're not going up a top 11 pick in a very deep draft for Justin Faulk.

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Mar. 31, 2023 at 12:55 p.m.

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Kyriakos_Grizzly

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Wings trade 25-year-old Hronek for 31-year-old Faulk. It doesn't make sense unless the Asking Price is much lower.

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Apr. 1, 2023 at 10:26 p.m.

#11

Redstinger

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Blues fan disguised as a wings fan. This trade is a joke. We will swap you charoit for faulk. Not getting rid of our first. Definitely not for old , overpriced players.

Apr. 1, 2023 at 10:28 p.m.

#12

Redstinger

Joined: May 2019

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Quoting: JoeROFLCOPTER

Maybe not in this draft, but in a mediocre draft I wouldn't be too heartbroken if we traded like a 20OA for him.

Not in any draft

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Apr. 2, 2023 at 12:43 a.m.

#13

eazy_duz_it

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jeremy clackston

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Quoting: Redstinger

Blues fan disguised as a wings fan. This trade is a joke. We will swap you charoit for faulk. Not getting rid of our first. Definitely not for old , overpriced players.

I'm not either fan, I'm literally a Preds fan. Also the Faulk take is delusional, he is a really good 2-3 d-man on a competing team

Apr. 2, 2023 at 9:43 a.m.

#14

Redstinger

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Quoting: eazy_duz_it

I'm not either fan, I'm literally a Preds fan. Also the Faulk take is delusional, he is a really good 2-3 d-man on a competing team

Who pays a 1st for a 2-3 d man. Definitely not a rebuilding team that's needs all the 1st's they can get.

Apr. 2, 2023 at 3:18 p.m.

#15

eazy_duz_it

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jeremy clackston

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Quoting: Redstinger

Who pays a 1st for a 2-3 d man. Definitely not a rebuilding team that's needs all the 1st's they can get.

Literally anyone pays a first for an elite 2-3 dman. Chiarot is a 5-6 dman and got a first and more. The Wings are not in the full on rebuild, they need to start stepping out of the rebuild

Apr. 11, 2023 at 11:35 a.m.

#16

Redstinger

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Quoting: eazy_duz_it

Literally anyone pays a first for an elite 2-3 dman. Chiarot is a 5-6 dman and got a first and more. The Wings are not in the full on rebuild, they need to start stepping out of the rebuild

Your way off man. Especially for the wings.

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