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Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Mar. 28, 2023
Published: Apr. 4, 2023
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Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$7,875,000
8$7,875,000
2$1,000,000
2$1,000,000
2$1,000,000
2$3,500,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
2$1,000,000
1$2,000,000
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MTL
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [RFA Rights]
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LAK
  1. Edmundson, Joel ($1,750,000 retained)
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2023
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2024
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2025
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23$82,500,000$74,507,499$1,170,000$4,195,000$7,992,501
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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LW, RW
UFA - 8
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 7
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
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RW, LW
UFA - 1
$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 8
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$4,500,000$4,500,000
LW
UFA - 1
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$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 3
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$2,000,000$2,000,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
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UFA - 4
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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LD
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UFA - 3
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
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$1,925,000$1,925,000
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$275,000$275K)
RD
RFA - 1
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G
UFA - 1
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
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$766,667$766,667
RD
UFA - 2

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Apr. 4, 2023 at 11:43 a.m.
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Counterpoint, Kings will keep Grans and don't want Edmundson because paying someone the league minimum would be on par with how he played this season.
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Apr. 4, 2023 at 12:13 p.m.
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If the Kings can't land a quality free-agent LhD like Gavrikov or Graves, then I could see us continue to go with Durzi at #2 LhD and picking up Edmundson for a third as the bottom-pairing LhD, but I don't see any other appealing scenario.
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Apr. 4, 2023 at 12:54 p.m.
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Counterpoint, Kings will keep Grans and don't want Edmundson because paying someone the league minimum would be on par with how he played this season.


Outside his +/- not much has changed for Eddy play wise outside not having a consistent partner
I mean man are his stats not great and by no means is he an Analytic's darling but again he's on pace for Career high in Blocked Shots , On Par hits wise with the Average and point wise were talking a spread of 3-11 points difference from his career high , average and low as a rookie of 9 and outside that is offensive numbers are on par with the average.

Im not saying Injury concerns arent there , they 100% are he's started the last 3 straight years on IR with back injuries
But that has not impacted his on ice consistency again outside +/- which is a team stat and when referenced has to be compared to the teams that year for true perspective.
Otherwise its just a useless stat.

That said it doesnt mean Eddy's somehow playing different or changed when all other stats as a collective assert otherwise.
Say no due to injuries but lets not pretend he'd declined , Eddy is Eddy he's consistent on and off IR
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Apr. 4, 2023 at 1:03 p.m.
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Quoting: OldNYIfan
If the Kings can't land a quality free-agent LhD like Gavrikov or Graves, then I could see us continue to go with Durzi at #2 LhD and picking up Edmundson for a third as the bottom-pairing LhD, but I don't see any other appealing scenario.


He's surprisingly consistent
The key to him is simple , dont over use him.
His Size and Style of Play make him an ideal Playoff Piece , treat him like that.

MTL got him and he was on IR for his back as soon as we signed him from out under CAR .
We rested him a lot that year and relied on him a lot that SCF playoff run but since all our regulars retired or were traded so he's played more.
Look at his Game Logs he goes from 22-24 minutes to 15-16 minutes a game often its not 20 minutes a night steady like the stats make it seem
But if it was he'd likely be a lot better off as we over use him versus high shooting teams as he blocks a ton of shots.

The Less time he wastes in the regular season playing big minutes the better for him come playoffs
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Apr. 4, 2023 at 1:09 p.m.
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Outside his +/- not much has changed for Eddy play wise outside not having a consistent partner
I mean man are his stats not great and by no means is he an Analytic's darling but again he's on pace for Career high in Blocked Shots , On Par hits wise with the Average and point wise were talking a spread of 3-11 points difference from his career high , average and low as a rookie of 9 and outside that is offensive numbers are on par with the average.

Im not saying Injury concerns arent there , they 100% are he's started the last 3 straight years on IR with back injuries
But that has not impacted his on ice consistency again outside +/- which is a team stat and when referenced has to be compared to the teams that year for true perspective.
Otherwise its just a useless stat.

That said it doesnt mean Eddy's somehow playing different or changed when all other stats as a collective assert otherwise.
Say no due to injuries but lets not pretend he'd declined , Eddy is Eddy he's consistent on and off IR


He can block and hit, but he also gives up the puck more than everyone except Kovacevic. Among the bottom for corsi, fenwick, PDO, and showing serious concern for durability. He is on a tanking team, full of defensive rookies, and he is looking worse than them. The Kings embrace analytic darlings and that is who they would be more likely to spend on, Add all that, to him having a 10-team NTC and LA doesn't have to overpay to get a player like him a 4th at half retained is close to his worth at this point. Grans will be an NHLer and a former 2nd round pick, I don't see equal value there.
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Apr. 4, 2023 at 1:30 p.m.
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He can block and hit, but he also gives up the puck more than everyone except Kovacevic. Among the bottom for corsi, fenwick, PDO, and showing serious concern for durability. He is on a tanking team, full of defensive rookies, and he is looking worse than them. The Kings embrace analytic darlings and that is who they would be more likely to spend on, Add all that, to him having a 10-team NTC and LA doesn't have to overpay to get a player like him a 4th at half retained is close to his worth at this point. Grans will be an NHLer and a former 2nd round pick, I don't see equal value there.


You said worse this year then the past
Him turning over puck happens whether he's +28 or -28 its generally the same volume the more you use him
Like i said not an Analytics darling but 6'6 players who can play the way he does arent common and he has 2 SCF the past 5 years on 2 teams playing the same role for a reason.
Come playoffs how a Mikey Anderson survives is by an Edmundson absorbing a lot of the damage especially in the shot blocking area of the game .

You're just listing a bunch of stuff that has always been the case with Eddy Career highs and lows , Stanley Cup Finals and Missed Playoffs
Those stats you listed dont really **** that much because Eddy's the Anchor a Legit top 4 needs incase of injuries .
He plays 4th/5th Defensman and if your top 4 guy goes down in the playoffs Eddy has it in him to step up into that role .
He can also maintain a top 4 Role if he has someone like a Robert Bortuzzo playing that 4th /5th D role for him

Whether his stats suck or not the same player people of authority Projected would get a 1st or a package with a 2nd this year before he went on IR is the same guys you're saying isnt worth it now.
Only thing that has changed is you've just noticed his stats are not as good as you thought based on the results he achieve's suggesting they'd be much better.


Grans maybe this and he maybe that but he wont be anything in LAK unless Roy , Walker leave and Clarke goes to the AHL for a stint.(unless they trade Spence then Clarke can stay up ) There's no way you can say to me in the next 3 years before his Waiver Exempt Status is up that you'll use him in LAK as a Starting Defensman .
Not unless i missed the memo about Doughty Retiring as they would create a big enough void for Grans to maybe sneak out a job for himself in the Chaos.

I mean it doesnt have to be Grans its just who OldNYIFan had suggested in the past because of his high value and likelihood to not be used in LAK allowing you to save a pick .
In his defense this was before Eddy went down and Friedman among others were actually discussing a 1st in return for Eddy if MTL handled double RS on him and his counter was Grans and 5th i believe.(which seemed fair at the time)

Today After Eddy's been back 16 games with 5 points and an 18 minute average he's playing like he did year 1 in MTL and if +/- is your thing he was only a -1 with about a 3 hit and 2 blocked shot average in that time . Turnovers im checking now but my regular site by the University of NB hasnt updated since March Break basically so i'd get skewed numbers that arent worth noting as they'd be incomplete.
If anything i'd say Eddy's the best he's been in 2 years as he's playing for a job and has been vocal about not wanting to leave MTL.
That said Matheson kind screwed him when he arrived

So complain about him being injured or cap or anything else.
But lets stop the Fiction about him declining please as he's the same old Eddy he's always been
Lets also not forget there's only 1 NHLer here mentioned and its not Grans not even for callups or taxi squad .or Loan just 1 year in the AHL with Half of Edmundsons success versus lesser skilled opponents . . .
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Apr. 4, 2023 at 1:41 p.m.
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You said worse this year then the past
Him turning over puck happens whether he's +28 or -28 its generally the same volume the more you use him
Like i said not an Analytics darling but 6'6 players who can play the way he does arent common and he has 2 SCF the past 5 years on 2 teams playing the same role for a reason.
Come playoffs how a Mikey Anderson survives is by an Edmundson absorbing a lot of the damage especially in the shot blocking area of the game .

You're just listing a bunch of stuff that has always been the case with Eddy Career highs and lows , Stanley Cup Finals and Missed Playoffs
Those stats you listed dont really **** that much because Eddy's the Anchor a Legit top 4 needs incase of injuries .
He plays 4th/5th Defensman and if your top 4 guy goes down in the playoffs Eddy has it in him to step up into that role .
He can also maintain a top 4 Role if he has someone like a Robert Bortuzzo playing that 4th /5th D role for him

Whether his stats suck or not the same player people of authority Projected would get a 1st or a package with a 2nd this year before he went on IR is the same guys you're saying isnt worth it now.
Only thing that has changed is you've just noticed his stats are not as good as you thought based on the results he achieve's suggesting they'd be much better.


Grans maybe this and he maybe that but he wont be anything in LAK unless Roy , Walker leave and Clarke goes to the AHL for a stint.(unless they trade Spence then Clarke can stay up ) There's no way you can say to me in the next 3 years before his Waiver Exempt Status is up that you'll use him in LAK as a Starting Defensman .
Not unless i missed the memo about Doughty Retiring as they would create a big enough void for Grans to maybe sneak out a job for himself in the Chaos.

I mean it doesnt have to be Grans its just who OldNYIFan had suggested in the past because of his high value and likelihood to not be used in LAK allowing you to save a pick .
In his defense this was before Eddy went down and Friedman among others were actually discussing a 1st in return for Eddy if MTL handled double RS on him and his counter was Grans and 5th i believe.(which seemed fair at the time)

Today After Eddy's been back 16 games with 5 points and an 18 minute average he's playing like he did year 1 in MTL and if +/- is your thing he was only a -1 with about a 3 hit and 2 blocked shot average in that time . Turnovers im checking now but my regular site by the University of NB hasnt updated since March Break basically so i'd get skewed numbers that arent worth noting as they'd be incomplete.
If anything i'd say Eddy's the best he's been in 2 years as he's playing for a job and has been vocal about not wanting to leave MTL.
That said Matheson kind screwed him when he arrived

So complain about him being injured or cap or anything else.
But lets stop the Fiction about him declining please as he's the same old Eddy he's always been
Lets also not forget there's only 1 NHLer here mentioned and its not Grans not even for callups or taxi squad .or Loan just 1 year in the AHL with Half of Edmundsons success versus lesser skilled opponents . . .


Here is the reality though, if the Habs were offered a 2nd rounder, he'd already been gone at the TDL. For LA, I'd rather pay $1-1.5 for vet shutdown D over Edmundson, because as you said "highs and lows," I'd rather just have a stay at home who can make up for Durzi (or Clarke / Spence) on the third pair.
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Apr. 4, 2023 at 5:21 p.m.
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Here is the reality though, if the Habs were offered a 2nd rounder, he'd already been gone at the TDL. For LA, I'd rather pay $1-1.5 for vet shutdown D over Edmundson, because as you said "highs and lows," I'd rather just have a stay at home who can make up for Durzi (or Clarke / Spence) on the third pair.


Here's the reality he was on IR and couldnt be traded or else he'd be gone .
We had offers but we waited for the TDL for the most return and surprise surprise he got injured.
MTL's season went that way as Monahan also sat on IR so we couldnt trade him as did Evans and Allen.
That mean no one wanted Monahan before his injury just because he was on IR instead of traded at the TDL?
That makes no sense.

If you have a question ask but stop making up excuses for why you dont want him and just own it .
His stats didnt change, he wasnt traded cause he got injured blocking a shot and didnt come back to the night of the TDL for his 1st game i think vs LAK if memory serves.
As Per Friedman we had a few teams in on him for a 2nd but we had a few interested in him for a 1st they reported so Hughes held out .

If this confuses you ill use real life examples to explain how our GM works .

Chiarot he had different offers on for a 2nd plus a prospect atleast but Hughes waited and got a 1st , a heck of a prospect and a 4th i think ?
Toffoli they coughed up a 1st right away so we moved Toffoli 2-3 weeks before the deadline

Lehkonen in contrast MTL was apparently offered a 1st round pick by atleast 2 teams but MTL waited getting Barron and a 2nd instead (former 1st two drafts previous to at the time). We coulda taken the likely solo and conditional 1st over Barron and a 2nd but thank god Hughes waited.
Kulak most thought we devalued by not really playing much as we went top heavy on Chiarot trying to showcase him, Romanov and Petry at Kulak's expense
We werent rumored to get a 4th and a prospect for him before the draft but outta no where we land the 2nd round pick to draft Lane Hutson and a RFA LD .

The point im trying to drive through is Timing is everything and our GM made a career our of nailing the timing down to a science.
You may have no faith in his abilities and treat him like he's Marc Bergavin but the reality is even the Bums he's traded and taken on paid more of a return then MB generally got.

Whether you want him or not thats fine i get that.
You talking ignorant i wont stand for nor will i endure the non stop excuses
Just own it , you'd rather overpay a UFA with term then pay for one you can abandon if needed.
Its not Evil , most people would say the same .... they just wouldnt BS their way through a conversation before summoning the intestinal fortitude to just be Direct.
What is kind Weak though is trying to blame the player and discredit his talent based on you not wanting him when he's more consistent then you are in your responses this post.
 
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