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Team: 2023-24 Edmonton Oilers
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Apr. 9, 2023 at 11:46 p.m.
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Not interested in moving Raddysh for that. Offer Needs to blow us away and this isn't it.
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Apr. 10, 2023 at 4:20 a.m.
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Quoting: Aussie_Blackhawk
Not interested in moving Raddysh for that. Offer Needs to blow us away and this isn't it.



For a 37 point player who’s-28………..I don’t necessarily like the trade myself but the 2nd & 4th are well within the range, prospect is probably alright too considering you have NO defence.
But what more do you really expect?
Seriously, at least counter that because the only thing I find strange about that proposal is your demands.
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Apr. 10, 2023 at 4:35 a.m.
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Quoting: Gronk9911
For a 37 point player who’s-28………..I don’t necessarily like the trade myself but the 2nd & 4th are well within the range, prospect is probably alright too considering you have NO defence.
But what more do you really expect?
Seriously, at least counter that because the only thing I find strange about that proposal is your demands.


Firstly he's still on his ELC which is currently under league minimum heading into next season and he is a 20 goal scorer on the leagues worst team.....

We have an abundance of young D coming through who are pencilled in to get gametime next season and the proposed defensemen coming back is also born the same year as Raddysh (a player you think is 28)

His value at the TDL to a team competing wanting to add to their forward pack with limited cap space will likely pay a 1st at the very minimum and quite possibly more when you consider what some of the contending teams have paid recently.

One question I would ask is "why would we do the oilers any favours?"

The offer doesn't even include a pick this year.... Why not just wait until TDL anyway?

The proposed player also plays the one position we don't need and the draft picks are down the line.

How can you be so perplexed about that proposal being rejected?

Im not saying he will get Jeannot or Hagel Return but he should get a much better return than whats proposed here. The fact multiple ACGM have proposed moves wanting him suggests he's been noticed around the league by fans at the very least.

Btw, you've asked to counter and then said my demands are strange....
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Apr. 10, 2023 at 4:56 a.m.
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Nobody cares if he’s on a ELC, and he’s o longer on his ELC. He had 12 points - 10 points and 37 points. Jesse Puljujarvi had 36 points and was +22 Your telling me that he was worth a 1st round pick?
Kailer Yamamoto had 40 points and was -1 in 81 games, you going to tell me he’s worth a 1st rounder.
Contending teams are going after veterans with pedigree and experience not 37 points and a -28, great teams don’t insert that player into the line up and expect change, he’s a summer deal which is why he didn’t get traded at the deadline.
The demand was strange, what is your expectation given what was asked, what is much more?
You have Zero idea how your you D-prospects will due, what you do know is your veteran D-men are over paid and are terrible.

Championship teams don’t gamble, Raddysh is a gamble. Next year he may bust through, or next year he could nose dive.
It’s not uncommon to want more given how bad Chicago is, I mean they are really bad. I’ve been there, I’ve over valued every single Oiler from 2009 till 16/17.
The absolute one thing I’ve come away with is teams don’t give high picks away for ELC players.
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Apr. 10, 2023 at 6:24 a.m.
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Quoting: Gronk9911
Nobody cares if he’s on a ELC, and he’s o longer on his ELC. He had 12 points - 10 points and 37 points. Jesse Puljujarvi had 36 points and was +22 Your telling me that he was worth a 1st round pick?
Kailer Yamamoto had 40 points and was -1 in 81 games, you going to tell me he’s worth a 1st rounder.
Contending teams are going after veterans with pedigree and experience not 37 points and a -28, great teams don’t insert that player into the line up and expect change, he’s a summer deal which is why he didn’t get traded at the deadline.
The demand was strange, what is your expectation given what was asked, what is much more?
You have Zero idea how your you D-prospects will due, what you do know is your veteran D-men are over paid and are terrible.

Championship teams don’t gamble, Raddysh is a gamble. Next year he may bust through, or next year he could nose dive.
It’s not uncommon to want more given how bad Chicago is, I mean they are really bad. I’ve been there, I’ve over valued every single Oiler from 2009 till 16/17.
The absolute one thing I’ve come away with is teams don’t give high picks away for ELC players.


I find it laughable that an Oilers fan is criticizing another team for being bad. How many 1st overall picks have you guys drafted in the last decade or so? Don't be that guy.

As far as Raddysh goes, he has shown progress this season with very little talent around him. He's producing more since the TDL on a tanking team. To most Hawks fans, that shows that he's moving in the right direction. His +/- has more to do with the team around him than anything else. The point still stands, offer rejected.
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Apr. 10, 2023 at 6:28 a.m.
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Quoting: Gronk9911
Nobody cares if he’s on a ELC, and he’s o longer on his ELC. He had 12 points - 10 points and 37 points. Jesse Puljujarvi had 36 points and was +22 Your telling me that he was worth a 1st round pick?
Kailer Yamamoto had 40 points and was -1 in 81 games, you going to tell me he’s worth a 1st rounder.
Contending teams are going after veterans with pedigree and experience not 37 points and a -28, great teams don’t insert that player into the line up and expect change, he’s a summer deal which is why he didn’t get traded at the deadline.
The demand was strange, what is your expectation given what was asked, what is much more?
You have Zero idea how your you D-prospects will due, what you do know is your veteran D-men are over paid and are terrible.

Championship teams don’t gamble, Raddysh is a gamble. Next year he may bust through, or next year he could nose dive.
It’s not uncommon to want more given how bad Chicago is, I mean they are really bad. I’ve been there, I’ve over valued every single Oiler from 2009 till 16/17.
The absolute one thing I’ve come away with is teams don’t give high picks away for ELC players.


I can see your frustration with the decline of the proposal. Teams don't go around helping out other teams, end of.

Your comparisons are woeful, Raddysh has had all of not quite 2 seasons in the bigs and has already got a 20 goal season on the worst team in the league compared to playing with the best offensive players in the league....

Contending teams are also looking at cap controlled guys who can contribute to add to the mix as proven by the last couple of years trend.

He could bust next year, but if theres something KD has shown over his tenure, its that if his value is not met, he won't do the trade for the sake of it. Thats exactly what this is.

Think your a little out of your depth with the response here man. Not everyone wants to help the oilers regardless of how bad Chicago or any other team are.
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Apr. 10, 2023 at 7:15 a.m.
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As far as Raddysh goes, he has shown progress this season with very little talent around him. He's producing more since the TDL on a tanking team. To most Hawks fans, that shows that he's moving in the right direction. His +/- has more to do with the team around him than anything else. The point still stands, offer rejected.[/quote]

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I find it laughable that an Oilers fan is criticizing another team for being bad. How many 1st overall picks have you guys drafted in the last decade or so? Don't be that guy.

As far as Raddysh goes, he has shown progress this season with very little talent around him. He's producing more since the TDL on a tanking team. To most Hawks fans, that shows that he's moving in the right direction. His +/- has more to do with the team around him than anything else. The point still stands, offer rejected.



Maybe you should have kept reading, you would have seen my acknowledgment of how bad the Oilers were.
I don’t care if Raddysh showed “progress” on a bad team, no GM is giving a 1st round pick for a one time 37 point guy. That’s absurd!
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Apr. 10, 2023 at 7:22 a.m.
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I can see your frustration with the decline of the proposal. Teams don't go around helping out other teams, end of.

Your comparisons are woeful, Raddysh has had all of not quite 2 seasons in the bigs and has already got a 20 goal season on the worst team in the league compared to playing with the best offensive players in the league....

Contending teams are also looking at cap controlled guys who can contribute to add to the mix as proven by the last couple of years trend.

He could bust next year, but if theres something KD has shown over his tenure, its that if his value is not met, he won't do the trade for the sake of it. Thats exactly what this is.

Think your a little out of your depth with the response here man. Not everyone wants to help the oilers regardless of how bad Chicago or any other team are.


Out of my depth? Hahahahahaha Both Puljuijarvi & Yamamoto were younger than Raddysh when they scored 36 & 40 points respectively & Raddysh is no longer free money, he will be bridged the same as any other player probably around 2.5.
I never made the proposal, I told you I didn’t really like it, you’re the one going on about a first round pick for a 25 year old player who will be 26 year next season with one 37 point season.
Sit down down clown..
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Apr. 10, 2023 at 9:11 a.m.
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I will echo some things that have already been said. Raddysh just turned 25 a couple months ago, he is still young. LHD is not a position of need for CHI in the least bit. Especially not an LHD that would be lower in CHI's depth chart than some of our guys that haven't even come out of junior yet. Also, If we are looking at 2024 picks, it makes more sense to sit on Raddysh until the TDL or just wait for better offers in general. It's a chance CHI should be willing to take. I think he is poised to take a big step next season, given a larger role and considering the progress he has already made. At the very least we would be looking at a prospect that plays a different position than Niemelainen, and would most likely have to be of a higher caliber. For the foreseeable future, EDM 2nd round picks might as well be 3rd round picks.
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Apr. 10, 2023 at 12:04 p.m.
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As far as Raddysh goes, he has shown progress this season with very little talent around him. He's producing more since the TDL on a tanking team. To most Hawks fans, that shows that he's moving in the right direction. His +/- has more to do with the team around him than anything else. The point still stands, offer rejected.





Maybe you should have kept reading, you would have seen my acknowledgment of how bad the Oilers were.
I don’t care if Raddysh showed “progress” on a bad team, no GM is giving a 1st round pick for a one time 37 point guy. That’s absurd![/quote]

You didn't acknowledge that the Oilers were bad. You acknowledged that you overvalued prospects during that time.
Apr. 10, 2023 at 12:06 p.m.
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Edmonton rejects all trade offers. This is pretty bad.
Apr. 10, 2023 at 10:56 p.m.
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I will echo some things that have already been said. Raddysh just turned 25 a couple months ago, he is still young. LHD is not a position of need for CHI in the least bit. Especially not an LHD that would be lower in CHI's depth chart than some of our guys that haven't even come out of junior yet. Also, If we are looking at 2024 picks, it makes more sense to sit on Raddysh until the TDL or just wait for better offers in general. It's a chance CHI should be willing to take. I think he is poised to take a big step next season, given a larger role and considering the progress he has already made. At the very least we would be looking at a prospect that plays a different position than Niemelainen, and would most likely have to be of a higher caliber. For the foreseeable future, EDM 2nd round picks might as well be 3rd round picks.


Picks in the 1st round are still valuable, I’m not trying offend any Chicago fans but your team is going to suck for 4-5 years. Any player worth a pick is going to be traded for picks & prospects regardless if it’s duplicates.
Prospects are never a straight line, one minute a star in the making the next they’re out of the league.
Chicago is interested in 2 things, pick/prospects and players with huge Cap hits with little actual dollars remaining.
Raddysh doesn’t have a lot of value, In my opinion if he gets traded it’s for a mid level pick. 2nd round at best.
Apr. 11, 2023 at 6:35 a.m.
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Out of my depth? Hahahahahaha Both Puljuijarvi & Yamamoto were younger than Raddysh when they scored 36 & 40 points respectively & Raddysh is no longer free money, he will be bridged the same as any other player probably around 2.5.
I never made the proposal, I told you I didn’t really like it, you’re the one going on about a first round pick for a 25 year old player who will be 26 year next season with one 37 point season.
Sit down down clown..


Showing your true colours and embarrassing yourself in the process.

I never made the proposal. I said the offer needs to blow us away to part with him now and picks down the line and a lagging prospect don't do that. I proceeded to suggest that his value could increase to a 1st at the TDL if he doesn't bust which is very realistic considering the sort of moves that have occurred over the last couple of TDL's.

You've yet to counter with anything other than 2 guys who played with generational talents. Not really a great comparison if you ask most. Ive even been surprised by CAT's drop-off without Kane. You take them away from those sorts of players and your not left with 20 goal scorers....

Unfortunately it seems like you've taken the liberty upon yourself to be the one who thinks he knows it all.
Apr. 11, 2023 at 7:54 a.m.
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Picks in the 1st round are still valuable, I’m not trying offend any Chicago fans but your team is going to suck for 4-5 years. Any player worth a pick is going to be traded for picks & prospects regardless if it’s duplicates.
Prospects are never a straight line, one minute a star in the making the next they’re out of the league.
Chicago is interested in 2 things, pick/prospects and players with huge Cap hits with little actual dollars remaining.
Raddysh doesn’t have a lot of value, In my opinion if he gets traded it’s for a mid level pick. 2nd round at best.


In all likelihood, you are probably right about Raddysh's value, but it is worth waiting and finding out and not taking this kind of package. He is still at an age where he could easily be part of the future for CHI. The fact remains, though, that Niemelainen is not and will not be interesting to CHI. You don't need to mansplain to me like i'm a child or some schmuck. I get the feeling that I know Edmontons prospects better than you do, but I absolutely know CHI's prospects and needs better than you do. I also know Kyle Davidsons tendencies better than you do. So, where your reasoning may be sound from one aspect, it isn't realistic.
Apr. 14, 2023 at 6:33 p.m.
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In all likelihood, you are probably right about Raddysh's value, but it is worth waiting and finding out and not taking this kind of package. He is still at an age where he could easily be part of the future for CHI. The fact remains, though, that Niemelainen is not and will not be interesting to CHI. You don't need to mansplain to me like i'm a child or some schmuck. I get the feeling that I know Edmontons prospects better than you do, but I absolutely know CHI's prospects and needs better than you do. I also know Kyle Davidsons tendencies better than you do. So, where your reasoning may be sound from one aspect, it isn't realistic.



I totally agree with you, I said in the original post I didn’t like the Oiler trade ether, my point is what more would Raddysh get? The trade is fair (it’s wrong) but fair a prospect of value Niemelainen is a huge hitter, tough as nails and has NHL experience, he’s in a numbers game and is a legit prospect. Yes, Oilers have better prospects but not by much.
I’m sorry for being blunt, your team is exactly where the Oilers were at, I get it.
My point is even if Raddysh stays he won’t be there when it matters and he’s going to ask for 2.7 to 3.1 for a bridge contract. Is that something Davidson can handle?
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I totally agree with you, I said in the original post I didn’t like the Oiler trade ether, my point is what more would Raddysh get? The trade is fair (it’s wrong) but fair a prospect of value Niemelainen is a huge hitter, tough as nails and has NHL experience, he’s in a numbers game and is a legit prospect. Yes, Oilers have better prospects but not by much.
I’m sorry for being blunt, your team is exactly where the Oilers were at, I get it.
My point is even if Raddysh stays he won’t be there when it matters and he’s going to ask for 2.7 to 3.1 for a bridge contract. Is that something Davidson can handle?


The value itself might be ok, but Niemelainen is not an option for CHI. Raddysh could absolutely be in CHI when it matters, but, yeah, he is pretty close to the cutoff age-wise. Davidson could definitely handle a bridge deal for him, though. In fact, we could use the money on the books since getting to the salary floor over the next few years is going to be a task as it is. I wouldn't be surprised if his bridge deal is even larger than that. Especially if he takes another step next season.
 
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