Dubois to MTL is inevitable

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Created by: What_do_i_know

Team: 2022-23 Montreal Canadiens

Initial Creation Date: Apr. 12, 2023

Published: Apr. 12, 2023

Salary Cap Mode: Basic

Description

I don't know if theres many Habs fans out there who want to trade Florida's first for Dubois (including myself) when it seems written in the stars that he's going to be coming to MTL one way or the other but putting myself in the shoes of an NHL front office, when you have the opportunity to make your team better for both the near and long-term future you have to take it.

Such as the Rams said **** dem picks, the Habs have enough prospects cooking through the juniors, NCAA and Laval and although Florida's pick could be something nice, its not guaranteed to be a top 6 if not top 3 player such as Dubois so you take it.

Attracting talent to Montreal is difficult on its own with the media, weather, income tax and language barrier so when theres someone of Dubois' caliber willing to come you don't walk you run.

Fingers crossed this isn't Drouin 2.0.

Trades

MTL

Dubois, Pierre-Luc

Additional Details:

Dubois comes with an extension at something like 7x7M or 6x7.5M

WPG

Dvorak, Christian
Norlinder, Mattias
2023 1st round pick (FLA)

Buyouts

Karl Alzner: $833,333

Retained Salary Transactions

Evgeni Dadonov: $2,500,000 (50%)
Nick Bonino: $1,025,000 (50%)

Draft	Round 1	Round 2	Round 3	Round 4	Round 5	Round 6	Round 7
2023
2024
2025

ROSTER

LONG-TERM OUTLOOK

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TEXT-EMBED

ROSTER SIZE	SALARY CAP	CAP HIT	OVERAGES	BONUSES	CAP SPACE
27	$82,500,000	$78,419,999	$1,132,500	$5,515,000	$4,080,001

Left Wing	Centre	Right Wing
Hoffman, Mike $4,500,000$4,500,000 LW UFA - 2	Suzuki, Nick $7,875,000$7,875,000 C UFA - 8	Gallagher, Brendan $6,500,000$6,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC, NMC UFA - 5
Pitlick, Rem $1,100,000$1,100,000 LW, RW UFA - 2	Drouin, Jonathan $5,500,000$5,500,000 LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1	Anderson, Josh $5,500,000$5,500,000 RW, LW M-NTC UFA - 5
Farrell, Sean $897,500$897,500 ($25,000$25K) RW, LW RFA - 3		Armia, Joel $3,400,000$3,400,000 RW, LW UFA - 3
Pezzetta, Michael $750,000$750,000 LW, RW UFA - 1	Dach, Kirby $3,362,500$3,362,500 C, RW RFA - 4	Gurianov, Denis $2,900,000$2,900,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
	Evans, Jake $1,700,000$1,700,000 C UFA - 3	Teasdale, Joël $750,000$750,000 RW, LW UFA - 1
	Belzile, Alex $750,000$750,000 C, RW UFA - 1
	Tierney, Chris $750,000$750,000 C UFA - 1
	Dubois, Pierre-Luc $6,000,000$6,000,000 C UFA - 1

Left Defense	Right Defense	Goaltender
Matheson, Michael $4,875,000$4,875,000 LD M-NTC UFA - 4	Savard, David $3,500,000$3,500,000 RD UFA - 3	Allen, Jake $2,875,000$2,875,000 G UFA - 1
Edmundson, Joel $875,000$875,000 LD/RD M-NTC UFA - 2	Barron, Justin $925,000$925,000 ($212,500$212K) RD RFA - 2	Montembeault, Samuel $1,000,000$1,000,000 G UFA - 2
Guhle, Kaiden $863,333$863,333 ($420,000$420K) LD/RD RFA - 3	Kovacevic, Johnathan $766,667$766,667 RD UFA - 3
Harris, Jordan $842,500$842,500 ($507,500$508K) LD/RD RFA - 1	Wideman, Chris $762,500$762,500 RD UFA - 2
	Allard, Frédéric $750,000$750,000 RD UFA - 1

Scratches	Injured Reserve (IR)	Long Term IR (LTIR)
	Slafkovsky, Juraj $950,000$950,000 ($3,500,000$4M) RW, LW RFA - 3	Price, Carey $10,500,000$10,500,000 G NMC UFA - 4
	Caufield, Cole $880,833$880,833 ($850,000$850K) LW, RW UFA - 1	Monahan, Sean $6,375,000$6,375,000 C, LW, RW M-NTC UFA - 1
	Xhekaj, Arber $828,333$828,333 LD/RD RFA - 2	Byron, Paul $3,400,000$3,400,000 LW, RW UFA - 1

Apr. 12, 2023 at 12:06 p.m.

Big_Papa20

SlafDaddy

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It seems that way, but I see him as a 1B like Suzuki… a second line centre on a contender. I don’t see him moving the needle all that much

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Apr. 12, 2023 at 12:07 p.m.

Ennis

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Dubois isn't groundbreaking. He'd be a solid 2C behind Suzuki. He isn't a superstar or anything, so I think if Montreal wanted to make a move for him before he reaches FA, they shouldn't break the bank to do it

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Apr. 12, 2023 at 12:11 p.m.

Nick_SUCCzuki

Suczuking Kotkaniemi

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For a long time I was against moving the Florida pick, but because its confirmed to be outside the top 15 I'm open to it.

I wouldn't make any move until a lot closer to the draft just in case we are able to win the lottery and get a top center. Also, there's a good chance a solid player will drop given how talented this draft is and how some GM's will like to go off the board.

With that said I'm totally open to moving it in a Dach like move, but I wouldn't mind targeting a goalie like Hart or someone else.

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Apr. 12, 2023 at 12:11 p.m.

Windjammer

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Change Norlinder, who does nothing for Winnipeg, to Beck and you'll have a competitive offer.

No chance PLD signs either lowball extension offer.

Apr. 12, 2023 at 12:12 p.m.

danielcoe

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I agree he will come here but only with an extension that the habs arec omfortable with.. He is not better than suzuki and we wont pay him more.. so chevy will have to lets us negotiate with him and he will have to be reasonable on the dollars if not we dont do this deal.... Remember when you keep the 3 assets and use dach at center we dont need dubois and we wont let him mess up the cap strucure the way tavares did to toronto.. So caufield and dubois under suzuki cap hit or dubois plays somewhere else and we keep our three assets... So chevy could mess up the trade but so could dubois by asking for to much.

If you trade without an extension then dubois now has us over the barrell and can ask for the world as he knows we just lost 3 assets for him.. So dubois at 7.8 x 8 years and we trade no extension and we wait for another year

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Apr. 12, 2023 at 12:13 p.m.

Campabee

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IMO, the Fiala trade makes the most sense as a good comp. Therefore the Florida 1st has to be included and a good prospect. I don't think it has to be a Farrell, Roy, Beck, Hutson or Mailloux type but it has to be a good prospect. We also have the cap room to add him without sending Dvo back but the Jets are going to need a replacement center from somewhere so why not as part of the deal.

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Apr. 12, 2023 at 12:14 p.m.

Ennis

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Quoting: Windjammer

Change Norlinder, who does nothing for Winnipeg, to Beck and you'll have a competitive offer.

No chance PLD signs either lowball extension offer.

day number 300 of telling you that beck isn't going back in a PLD trade and he's just not as good as you think he is

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Apr. 12, 2023 at 12:16 p.m.

Black61

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There seems to be this quite frankly stupid notion that its either dubois or nothing when it comes to a trade for the habs.

A top 20 pick Dvorak and a prospect can get you a boatload in return. The habs can go elsewher and get a dubois calibre player and if he signs in a year great if not no big deal

Apr. 12, 2023 at 12:18 p.m.

Andy_Dick

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Quoting: EvanderKanesLawyer

The 17th overall pick is more than enough but here comes the delusional takes with the 'mystery' leverage and 3 1sts plus prospects awaiting the Jets at the TDL for a player that most likely will have to be dealt before camp

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Apr. 12, 2023 at 12:21 p.m.

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Andy_Dick

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Quoting: Campabee

Fiala has better points production but the fact that PLD is a center evens it out! This draft is also better than last season so the Cats 1st and a B prospect is more than fair when the Jets are over a barrel.
Brock Faber has progressed quite well under the Minnesota umbrella but he was a B prospect over the Summer. Someone like Heineman that has been a B prospect coming from Sweden but is over a PPG in the AHL rn and he has that size to replace PLD.

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Apr. 12, 2023 at 12:24 p.m.

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Andy_Dick

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Quoting: Black61

Exactly if they are willing to trade a top20 pick(17 or 18) they can get an easy comparable to PLD. Right defence is the bigger need when they have Suzuki-Dach-Beck-Kidney down the middle

Apr. 12, 2023 at 12:25 p.m.

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HabsAreSus

Leaf Fan Joke Here

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Quoting: Windjammer

Change Norlinder, who does nothing for Winnipeg, to Beck and you'll have a competitive offer.

No chance PLD signs either lowball extension offer.

Stop asking for beck, you'll get a B+ prospect and Floridas 1st and you'll just have to like it

PLD screwed winnipeg last year when he told family he was going to the draft cause he thought he'd be traded

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Apr. 12, 2023 at 12:26 p.m.

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Andy_Dick

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Quoting: Windjammer

Change Norlinder, who does nothing for Winnipeg, to Beck and you'll have a competitive offer.

No chance PLD signs either lowball extension offer.

So Habs take the 17th overall pick from the Cats and Heineman to get a top4 RHD then sign PLD over the Summer as a free agent. For once, i agree. Pld should not come to Montreal for that offer.

Apr. 12, 2023 at 12:27 p.m.

#14

dannibalcorpse

we miss leo k

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all i know is that if there ever *is* a PLD-to-MTL trade these boards are gonna burn down

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Apr. 12, 2023 at 12:28 p.m.

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Andy_Dick

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Quoting: HabsAreSus

Happy to say I have held firm in my stance since the Friedman report that Beck should not be dealt to the Jets when half the Habs fan base here was including him in offers to appease some delusional Jets fans for likes!

Some Habs fans here arent Habs fans but trolls for attn.

ie Hutson and a 1st for Durzi ACGM

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Apr. 12, 2023 at 12:28 p.m.

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Black61

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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great

Exactly if they are willing to trade a top20 pick(17 or 18) they can get an easy comparable to PLD. Right defence is the bigger need when they have Suzuki-Dach-Beck-Kidney down the middle

And likely one of bedard/fantilli/smith/moore

Apr. 12, 2023 at 12:30 p.m.

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Ennis

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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great

Hughes is smarter than some random known capfriendly homer. He won't move Beck for a 2C.

This website will FLOURISH the day windjammer finally deletes his account. can't stand the knob.

Apr. 12, 2023 at 12:33 p.m.

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Windjammer

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Quoting: HabsAreSus

Stop asking for PLD and thinking that Winnipeg will give him away for less than his rental price. Montreal has no leverage, they'll need to pay a fair price or they won't get him. Trades need to work for both teams, so offering pieces that have no value to Winnipeg, like Norlinder and Dvorak don't move the needle.

In all likelihood, PLD is traded and extended elsewhere. Montreal doesn't have the quality prospects or roster players that Winnipeg needs or would want.

Apr. 12, 2023 at 12:36 p.m.

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dgibb10

I Love J Boqvist

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Thinking dubois signs for under 8 lol

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Apr. 12, 2023 at 12:36 p.m.

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Ennis

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Quoting: Windjammer

you got it backwards lil bro. Winnipeg is the team with 0 leverage here. pld isn't a superstar. he's a 2c.

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Apr. 12, 2023 at 12:37 p.m.

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Andy_Dick

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Quoting: EvanderKanesLawyer

Hughes is smarter than some random known capfriendly homer. He won't move Beck for a 2C.

This website will FLOURISH the day windjammer finally deletes his account. can't stand the knob.

He's going to flag this and have the thread deleted. Change the kn&b comment. He flags everything. Typical

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Apr. 12, 2023 at 12:38 p.m.

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aedoran

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If Dubois to MTL is inevitable why give up assets to get him??? I really don't see Montreal making the playoffs next season so there is no reason to give up assets that can be used elsewhere. Personally if Hughes gave up Dvorak, Norlinder and a mid 1st in this years draft to get PLD a season early I'd be worried about his decision making.

Apr. 12, 2023 at 12:39 p.m.

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Carleton

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Quoting: Windjammer

delete your account!

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Apr. 12, 2023 at 12:39 p.m.

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dgibb10

I Love J Boqvist

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Quoting: EvanderKanesLawyer

you got it backwards lil bro. Winnipeg is the team with 0 leverage here. pld isn't a superstar. he's a 2c.

Better than suzuki

Apr. 12, 2023 at 12:42 p.m.

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Andy_Dick

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Quoting: dougford

delete your account!

He's not even clever or entertaining. The best part of him is his name which is quite ironic since he wont flush down the toilet of the forum

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