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Summer 2023

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Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 13, 2023
Published: Apr. 13, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
3$4,000,000
8$8,000,000
1$850,000
1$800,000
1$800,000
1$800,000
1$925,000
8$8,000,000
3$1,750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$800,000
1$800,000
2$950,000
1$3,000,000
1$900,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Reinbacher, David
3$950,000
Hameenaho, Lenni
3$950,000
Bjarnasson, Carson
3$950,000
Mackinnon, Dylan
3$950,000
Trades
1.
MTL
  1. 2023 1st round pick (MIN)
MIN
  1. Harris, Jordan
  2. 2023 4th round pick (MTL)
  3. 2023 5th round pick (MTL)
Additional Details:
To a team with a late 1st in 2023 and in a need of a good, cheap, young LHD.
2.
MTL
  1. Lafrenière, Alexis [RFA Rights]
NYR
  1. 2023 1st round pick (FLA)
  2. 2025 1st round pick (CGY)
3.
MTL
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [RFA Rights]
WPG
  1. Hoffman, Mike
  2. Kidney, Riley
  3. 2023 1st round pick (MIN)
  4. 2024 2nd round pick (COL)
4.
MTL
  1. 2023 2nd round pick (LAK)
LAK
  1. Edmundson, Joel ($1,750,000 retained)
Additional Details:
MTL kept a retained salary spot for the draft (source:KH). I guess it could be Joel to a team needing a veteran defensive LHD. (Used LAK here but could be another team if LAK resign Gav).
5.
MTL
  1. 2024 2nd round pick (OTT)
OTT
  1. Allen, Jake
  2. 2024 5th round pick (SJS)
6.
MTL
ANA
  1. 2023 1st round pick (MTL)
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (MTL)
  3. 2023 2nd round pick (LAK)
  4. 2023 3rd round pick (MTL)
Additional Details:
#6: David Reinbacher
#37: Lenni Hameenaho
#55: Bjarnasson, Hrabal, Fowler, Augustine
#69: Dylan Mackinnon
Buyouts
Retained Salary Transactions
DraftRound 1Round 2Round 3Round 4Round 5Round 6Round 7
2023
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2024
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2025
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ROSTER SIZESALARY CAPCAP HITOVERAGES TooltipBONUSESCAP SPACE
23$83,500,000$77,451,666$1,170,000$4,195,000$6,048,334
Left WingCentreRight Wing
$8,000,000$8,000,000
C
UFA - 8
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 7
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$8,000,000$8,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 8
$4,000,000$4,000,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,000,000$3,000,000
C, LW, RW
UFA - 1
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$1,750,000$1,750,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$4,450,000$4,450,000
C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 2
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$6,500,000$6,500,000
RW, LW
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 1
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$766,667$766,667
RD
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$890,000$890,000
G
RFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$828,333$828,333
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$275,000$275K)
RD
RFA - 1
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$762,500$762,500
RD
UFA - 1
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$3,400,000$3,400,000
RW, LW
UFA - 2
Logo of the Montreal Canadiens
$800,000$800,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2

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Apr. 13, 2023 at 1:30 p.m.
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Sure, set your french speaking canadian free. But don't you have too many prospects already? where will they play? You going to let to tier talents go to waste as AHL players?
Apr. 13, 2023 at 1:34 p.m.
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Sorry to ruin your summer but the Rangers say no thanks.
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Apr. 13, 2023 at 1:38 p.m.
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ig somebody won the draft behind us pre lottery, since habs are 5th as of rn. at 5th habs are taking smith, at 6th prob benson, 7th maybe moore, i can see habs getting a dman in the 24 draft and trading up to secure a dman.
Apr. 13, 2023 at 1:41 p.m.
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Missed the quote
Apr. 13, 2023 at 1:42 p.m.
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Quoting: AG_sweden
Sure, set your french speaking canadian free. But don't you have too many prospects already? where will they play? You going to let to tier talents go to waste as AHL players?


Good question!
First, I’m not an Hab fan that want as many french canadians as possible. The style of play of Laf and Dubois are lacking in MTL.
There are about 6-7 forwards not in the roster that will fight for the 4-5 spot remaining in the show and few of them might not get there. If there are too many NHL ready prospects and not enough space, you can always trade them.
Apr. 13, 2023 at 1:43 p.m.
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Rangers would want our own 1st round pick. I’d however rather use that pick to select Smith at 5th, or Benson at 7th depending how the lottery plays out.

The Florida pick is 100% getting traded with Dvorak and probably Mesar—if I had to pick a name, for Dubois.
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Apr. 13, 2023 at 1:50 p.m.
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Minnesota chuckles and gives a hearty no. Aside from having an excellent d core on hand, they also have excellent defensive prospect depth. They have drafted 3 ld in the first 2 rounds in the last 3 years so they are pretty stacked there. Both skill, skaters and grit players. They have no need for another.
Apr. 13, 2023 at 1:51 p.m.
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Quoting: Jobob77
Good question!
First, I’m not an Hab fan that want as many french canadians as possible. The style of play of Laf and Dubois are lacking in MTL.
There are about 6-7 forwards not in the roster that will fight for the 4-5 spot remaining in the show and few of them might not get there. If there are too many NHL ready prospects and not enough space, you can always trade them.


yes, but by then value has dropped, the org gets a bad word, young players rather force a trade than spend time in the farm system (like in NYR). It is not as great as it sounds trust me.
I do agree one of either PLD or Laffy would do great in MTL, but don't see them needing both... Of the two PLD is the best fit since he is very public in wanting to go there, and Laffy seems to like it and be liked in NYR.
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Apr. 13, 2023 at 1:51 p.m.
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Quoting: AlakHul
ig somebody won the draft behind us pre lottery, since habs are 5th as of rn. at 5th habs are taking smith, at 6th prob benson, 7th maybe moore, i can see habs getting a dman in the 24 draft and trading up to secure a dman.


Finishing fifth last, MTL have 58,1% chance of drafting 6th of 7th.

The lack of compete and defense abilities of Smith and the size/skating of Benson are concerning aspects for a top 7 pick. I like them but not as much as Reinbacher.
Apr. 13, 2023 at 1:58 p.m.
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Quoting: David_Desharnais_51
Rangers would want our own 1st round pick. I’d however rather use that pick to select Smith at 5th, or Benson at 7th depending how the lottery plays out.

The Florida pick is 100% getting traded with Dvorak and probably Mesar—if I had to pick a name, for Dubois.


The lack of compete and defense abilities of Smith and the size/skating of Benson are concerning aspects for a top 7 pick. I like them but not as much as Reinbacher.

FLA 1st pick going in WPG for Dubois is a consensus on here but I don’t think it is the same thing in KH office right now.
Don’t think dvorak is leaving this summer. In term of value, he is in a low phase and KH don’t trade players in a slump.
Apr. 13, 2023 at 1:59 p.m.
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Quoting: Jobob77
Finishing fifth last, MTL have 58,1% chance of drafting 6th of 7th.

The lack of compete and defense abilities of Smith and the size/skating of Benson are concerning aspects for a top 7 pick. I like them but not as much as Reinbacher.


Is Reinbacher projecting as a number 1dman? or a number 2? cuz i'd prefer getting a number 1dman, guhle is good and all but he's a 2nd dman at best. in 24 the draft is more of a dman draft, unlike the 23, 23 is stacked with forwards.
Smith's prob gon be a Zegras type, not great at defense but good at offense.
Moore is also a nice pick, at 7th, Reinbacher at 7th is also good but i'd rather wait next year for a dman.
Apr. 13, 2023 at 2:02 p.m.
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Quoting: Lightman13
Minnesota chuckles and gives a hearty no. Aside from having an excellent d core on hand, they also have excellent defensive prospect depth. They have drafted 3 ld in the first 2 rounds in the last 3 years so they are pretty stacked there. Both skill, skaters and grit players. They have no need for another.


Took MIN as an example but I think that Harris could be traded like Romanov. You guys have Lambos and Peart LHD prospects but future doesn’t look so great there?
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Apr. 13, 2023 at 2:15 p.m.
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Quoting: AlakHul
Is Reinbacher projecting as a number 1dman? or a number 2? cuz i'd prefer getting a number 1dman, guhle is good and all but he's a 2nd dman at best. in 24 the draft is more of a dman draft, unlike the 23, 23 is stacked with forwards.
Smith's prob gon be a Zegras type, not great at defense but good at offense.
Moore is also a nice pick, at 7th, Reinbacher at 7th is also good but i'd rather wait next year for a dman.


There few good RHD in 2024 (Parekh, Levshunov, Mews, Dickinson) but the top 15 will still be very forward oriented with Celebrini, Eiserman, Helenius, Demidov, etc.

Depends who you ask but in my opinion, Reinbacher the best alternative passed Bedard, Fantilli, Michkov and Carlsson. I am pretty sure that he will be a top pair Dman beacause of his skating, shooting, passing (IQ), physicality and compete.
Apr. 13, 2023 at 2:34 p.m.
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Quoting: Jobob77
There few good RHD in 2024 (Parekh, Levshunov, Mews, Dickinson) but the top 15 will still be very forward oriented with Celebrini, Eiserman, Helenius, Demidov, etc.

Depends who you ask but in my opinion, Reinbacher the best alternative passed Bedard, Fantilli, Michkov and Carlsson. I am pretty sure that he will be a top pair Dman beacause of his skating, shooting, passing (IQ), physicality and compete.


habs only have one line, as we could definitely see, the caufield-suzuki-dach line was really good at one point, though the numbers were saying otherwise.
smith, a playmaker would be nice to have, the RD i can see us trading for one if needed.
3 of the top 4 of habs could actually be set too
guhle, hutson (its a project but 1st year post draft is encouraging), barron (2nd pair dman). i'd be ready to trade lets say its 11th oa next year (habs) and a 2nd with a prospct to move up to top 7 if a team were to make their pick available.
Apr. 13, 2023 at 5:09 p.m.
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Took MIN as an example but I think that Harris could be traded like Romanov. You guys have Lambos and Peart LHD prospects but future doesn’t look so great there?


I get you. Never a bad thing to get the ideas out - even if it’s a whomever team.

future defense for the wild looks as good as it does in goal. They need to get more centers if anything. Goal seems pretty in hand, current and future defense is good and so are the wings. Just need it down the middle if anything.
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Apr. 13, 2023 at 5:24 p.m.
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Quoting: AlakHul
habs only have one line, as we could definitely see, the caufield-suzuki-dach line was really good at one point, though the numbers were saying otherwise.
smith, a playmaker would be nice to have, the RD i can see us trading for one if needed.
3 of the top 4 of habs could actually be set too
guhle, hutson (its a project but 1st year post draft is encouraging), barron (2nd pair dman). i'd be ready to trade lets say its 11th oa next year (habs) and a 2nd with a prospct to move up to top 7 if a team were to make their pick available.


Trading for 1st pair RHD is a lot harder than trading for forwards. With Slaf and potentially Dubois, MTL have already 5 of their future top 6 (Farrell, Mesar, Roy, Beck, Kidney could all fix that hole potentially). Barron and Mailloux are fringe top 4 so if we talking need, RHD is the biggest, and if we talking best player available at 5-6-7, for me it is Reinbacher. If MTL doesn’t win the lottery, we will how high they are on Smith, Benson and Reinbacher.
Apr. 13, 2023 at 6:20 p.m.
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no to all trades as they habs dont think this pushes them forward it just pushes the french.. typical on a small element of montrealers...... we know that quebecers do badly in montreal... No laffy for sure....dubois only with the right extension and for a reasonable set of assets....

Our French canadiens will be HLP and Savard and maybe dubois
Apr. 13, 2023 at 6:21 p.m.
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Quoting: Lightman13
I get you. Never a bad thing to get the ideas out - even if it’s a whomever team.

future defense for the wild looks as good as it does in goal. They need to get more centers if anything. Goal seems pretty in hand, current and future defense is good and so are the wings. Just need it down the middle if anything.


I agree.

But I'd argue Minnesota needs at least ONE more LW and RW each.

Ohgren looks great, and Beckman has steadily improved but I'm not 100% sold on Beckman... Yet. I'd like one more there, just for depth and bullets in a chamber philosophy.

On the right we got Boldy and Yurov, but one more forward prospect there to cover our bases would be good as it gets.

Center wise, beyond Rossi. We also have Khusnutdinov, Bankier, Haight, and Petrovský. All of whom had really good seasons this year for the individual leagues they currently play in. So while I wouldn't mind the choice to go Center again. Unless someone of a real high-end upside drops for whatever reason, I think it would be more prudent to go winger again this year.

I don't see us in a real position to acquire one of the really good Center prospects this year anyway where we currently sit in the standings.
Apr. 13, 2023 at 6:25 p.m.
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Quoting: AlakHul
Is Reinbacher projecting as a number 1dman? or a number 2? cuz i'd prefer getting a number 1dman, guhle is good and all but he's a 2nd dman at best. in 24 the draft is more of a dman draft, unlike the 23, 23 is stacked with forwards.
Smith's prob gon be a Zegras type, not great at defense but good at offense.
Moore is also a nice pick, at 7th, Reinbacher at 7th is also good but i'd rather wait next year for a dman.


matheson is playing like a number 1 right now what a season for him imagine if he had played the first half he would have like 55 points
Apr. 13, 2023 at 6:28 p.m.
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allen only gets moved after training camp.... if primeau performs well he gets the job and they move allen but if he falters they keep allen and try to get primeau through waivers which they wont but that's ok ... it is how we got monty in the first place. Primeau will get his shot but he has to step up and then they move Allen
Apr. 13, 2023 at 6:36 p.m.
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Quoting: RazWild
I agree.

But I'd argue Minnesota needs at least ONE more LW and RW each.

Ohgren looks great, and Beckman has steadily improved but I'm not 100% sold on Beckman... Yet. I'd like one more there, just for depth and bullets in a chamber philosophy.

On the right we got Boldy and Yurov, but one more forward prospect there to cover our bases would be good as it gets.

Center wise, beyond Rossi. We also have Khusnutdinov, Bankier, Haight, and Petrovský. All of whom had really good seasons this year for the individual leagues they currently play in. So while I wouldn't mind the choice to go Center again. Unless someone of a real high-end upside drops for whatever reason, I think it would be more prudent to go winger again this year.

I don't see us in a real position to acquire one of the really good Center prospects this year anyway where we currently sit in the standings.


Has gmbg’s draft philosophy been “best player available”? I thought so. For some reason I remember him saying they don’t know who they’ll have in the system and on the team 3 years down the road when they are more ready for a look.
 
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