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Team: 2023-24 Columbus Blue Jackets
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 18, 2023
Published: Apr. 18, 2023
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If Anaheim gets bedard they would have him and zegras as the 1-2 down the center. They would get a top line 40 goal scorer a solid puck moving RHD and a 1st round pick.
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Apr. 18, 2023 at 7:03 p.m.
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Lol why would you trade McTavish away if we get Bedard?? Feels like an absolute rock for brains move for a GM
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Apr. 18, 2023 at 7:03 p.m.
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Ducks have arguably the best U-22 defense corps in the league so I doubt they have a need for Boqvist. Drysdale, Zellweger, Mintyukov, Helleson, Warren etc. so good that they moved Thrun to SJ for only a 3rd and Thrun made a seamless transition to 20 minutes a night in the nhl.

Also no way they move McTavish for Laine lol and CBJ should not be moving their 1st in 2024 which is very likely a top five pick.
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Apr. 18, 2023 at 7:04 p.m.
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Anaheim have zero reasons to move McTavish, especially not if they get to draft his pal Bedard
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Apr. 18, 2023 at 7:04 p.m.
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Nah, Zegras just moves to wing if they get Bedard.
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Apr. 18, 2023 at 7:06 p.m.
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if that's all it takes for Hanifin (with extension) do it now lol
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Apr. 18, 2023 at 7:06 p.m.
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idk why it posted twice
Apr. 18, 2023 at 7:08 p.m.
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Apr. 18, 2023 at 7:09 p.m.
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Quoting: squashmaple
Nah, Zegras just moves to wing if they get Bedard.


I think Zegras stays at center with Terry on his right and Bedard plays on McTavish’s right
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Apr. 18, 2023 at 7:12 p.m.
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Prefer something more like Bean + Boqvist + Ceulemans + Olivier for Hanifin

And how about LAK’s 1st + Sillinger + Texier + Bemstrom + Dumais for Elias Lindholm if he wants out of CGY. Lindy & Gaudreau were absolute gold together and no, we have zero interest in Roslovic
Apr. 18, 2023 at 7:14 p.m.
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Half the excitement of getting Bedard is playing Bedard with McTavish and Zellweger. It would be a team canada WJC reunion tour. Bedard and McTavish also text each other daily.

I get what you are going for there, and I am not saying the value isn't there for the trade with Laine, but its just not a deal that we take.
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Apr. 18, 2023 at 7:18 p.m.
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Quoting: Blacktown
Ducks have arguably the best U-22 defense corps in the league so I doubt they have a need for Boqvist. Drysdale, Zellweger, Mintyukov, Helleson, Warren etc. so good that they moved Thrun to SJ for only a 3rd and Thrun made a seamless transition to 20 minutes a night in the nhl.

Also no way they move McTavish for Laine lol and CBJ should not be moving their 1st in 2024 which is very likely a top five pick.


Aaaah, I was going to comment, but you've said it all, accurately and well, so . . .
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Apr. 18, 2023 at 7:19 p.m.
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Quoting: GeneralLandro
Lol why would you trade McTavish away if we get Bedard?? Feels like an absolute rock for brains move for a GM


Just to add. Don't know why folks feel it "so bad" to have too many good centres. Having three deep great/good centres is not a luxury at all, it's almost a necessity to be a top team. And there is plenty of ice time to go around as on the PP, one centre can move to the wing.
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Apr. 18, 2023 at 7:21 p.m.
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Welcome to CapFriendly in general and the close-knit community of Anaheim fanatics in particular!!
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Apr. 18, 2023 at 7:27 p.m.
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Aaaah, I was going to comment, but you've said it all, accurately and well, so . . .


Wouldn't have been an argument if they hadn't gotten Thrun from us.......

Don't mind me, I'm just going to be bitter about that for years to come. I wanted to see a Thrun Drysdale pairing so badly.
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Apr. 18, 2023 at 7:28 p.m.
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Quoting: palhal
Just to add. Don't know why folks feel it "so bad" to have too many good centres. Having three deep great/good centres is not a luxury at all, it's almost a necessity to be a top team. And there is plenty of ice time to go around as on the PP, one centre can move to the wing.


Exactly — besides you can always Edmonton it and throw them out together at the end of penalty kills or whatever

Also keeps them fresher for the year not having to play 20+ per night being the top 2, saving a couple minutes over the course of the season having the three just gives that much more power to them
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Apr. 18, 2023 at 7:31 p.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
Prefer something more like Bean + Boqvist + Ceulemans + Olivier for Hanifin

And how about LAK’s 1st + Sillinger + Texier + Bemstrom + Dumais for Elias Lindholm if he wants out of CGY. Lindy & Gaudreau were absolute gold together and no, we have zero interest in Roslovic


Of course you would. You've also been repeatedly told that's delusional.

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Ducks have arguably the best U-22 defense corps in the league so I doubt they have a need for Boqvist. Drysdale, Zellweger, Mintyukov, Helleson, Warren etc. so good that they moved Thrun to SJ for only a 3rd and Thrun made a seamless transition to 20 minutes a night in the nhl.

Also no way they move McTavish for Laine lol and CBJ should not be moving their 1st in 2024 which is very likely a top five pick.


Arguable is right. NJ is easily the top U-22 defense corps, and Columbus isn't far behind them (just none of them are in the NHL yet). And also agreed, McTavish should be as unmovable as Bedard.
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Apr. 18, 2023 at 7:36 p.m.
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Quoting: squashmaple
Of course you would. You've also been repeatedly told that's delusional.

I’ve also been told by CLB Fans that Bean is no good and Boqvist can’t play Defence. I’ve seen Bean being offered up for a 3rd Round Pick too

If you’re talking Lindholm, that’s what he’ll get with an extension in place

Delusional is the most unoriginal and over used word on this site lol
Apr. 18, 2023 at 7:49 p.m.
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Quoting: GiggywithGibby
Half the excitement of getting Bedard is playing Bedard with McTavish and Zellweger. It would be a team canada WJC reunion tour. Bedard and McTavish also text each other daily.

I get what you are going for there, and I am not saying the value isn't there for the trade with Laine, but its just not a deal that we take.


so would him and KJ. And his D buddy this year Svozil. I can only hope Confused
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Apr. 18, 2023 at 7:53 p.m.
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Quoting: squashmaple
Of course you would. You've also been repeatedly told that's delusional.



Arguable is right. NJ is easily the top U-22 defense corps, and Columbus isn't far behind them (just none of them are in the NHL yet). And also agreed, McTavish should be as unmovable as Bedard.


Still taking Anaheim here. Zellweger, Mintyukov, Drysdale is going to be elite.
Apr. 18, 2023 at 8:01 p.m.
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Quoting: KingofRnR
I’ve also been told by CLB Fans that Bean is no good and Boqvist can’t play Defence. I’ve seen Bean being offered up for a 3rd Round Pick too

If you’re talking Lindholm, that’s what he’ll get with an extension in place

Delusional is the most unoriginal and over used word on this site lol


thing is though if Sillinger is getting moved for Lindholm, he's the big value piece, there won't be much more included with him unless the Jackets get more than Lindholm with it. Something like Sillinger + LA 1st&3rd + Bean is more realistic, maybe include a 2nd or a top10 protected 1st. I could see Boqvist in there though too, his value is probably a late 1st - early 2nd. I don't think Jarmo would move both Sillinger and Dumais in the same trade, only one or the other
Apr. 18, 2023 at 8:18 p.m.
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Quoting: Blacktown
Still taking Anaheim here. Zellweger, Mintyukov, Drysdale is going to be elite.


I mean, New Jersey has some two absolutely lethal defensemen under 22 in Nemec and Hughes, but the talent level falls off steeply after those two. They spent an extended time at the bottom of the standings and ended up with 3 first overall selections and a 2nd overall (Hughes, Hughes, Hischer, Nemec)

Colombus isn't as robust at U22 D, Jiricek and Mateychuk are at the top of the depth chart.
Apr. 18, 2023 at 8:26 p.m.
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Quoting: GiggywithGibby
I mean, New Jersey has some two absolutely lethal defensemen under 22 in Nemec and Hughes, but the talent level falls off steeply after those two. They spent an extended time at the bottom of the standings and ended up with 3 first overall selections and a 2nd overall (Hughes, Hughes, Hischer, Nemec)

Colombus isn't as robust at U22 D, Jiricek and Mateychuk are at the top of the depth chart.


I'm not doubting NJs D here but Zellweger is insanely underrated and could be just as valuable as Nemec in a couple years. Hughes obviously is the best D prospect in the league but after him and Nemec it's Casey because Walsh is 23 and Muk and Okhotiuk were traded to SJ.
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Apr. 18, 2023 at 8:46 p.m.
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Quoting: AndrewPawlack
thing is though if Sillinger is getting moved for Lindholm, he's the big value piece, there won't be much more included with him unless the Jackets get more than Lindholm with it. Something like Sillinger + LA 1st&3rd + Bean is more realistic, maybe include a 2nd or a top10 protected 1st. I could see Boqvist in there though too, his value is probably a late 1st - early 2nd. I don't think Jarmo would move both Sillinger and Dumais in the same trade, only one or the other

Sillinger’s young, but regressed this year considerably. I’m not sure he‘s as highly valued as a prospect after this season as he was

Lindholm’s a sure thing, so we need a couple chances to replace him = TWO 1sts or Equal Prospects + a Decent Replacement Player + a couple Picks/B-Prospects for sending him over with a long-term contract

Bean & Boqvist aren’t worth 1sts anymore to me, they’re equivalent to 2nd Round Picks as best. Ceulemans hasnt changed and Dumais is likely worth a 2nd now, since he’s lacking ideal size for the NHL
Apr. 18, 2023 at 9:28 p.m.
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Quoting: GiggywithGibby
I mean, New Jersey has some two absolutely lethal defensemen under 22 in Nemec and Hughes, but the talent level falls off steeply after those two. They spent an extended time at the bottom of the standings and ended up with 3 first overall selections and a 2nd overall (Hughes, Hughes, Hischer, Nemec)

Colombus isn't as robust at U22 D, Jiricek and Mateychuk are at the top of the depth chart.


Quoting: Blacktown
I'm not doubting NJs D here but Zellweger is insanely underrated and could be just as valuable as Nemec in a couple years. Hughes obviously is the best D prospect in the league but after him and Nemec it's Casey because Walsh is 23 and Muk and Okhotiuk were traded to SJ.


Going by Wheeler's Top 50 Prospect Rankings in the Athletic, posted Feb 13th, the following defensemen between the three teams and their overall rankings:

--first tier (1 and 2 on the list)--
2. Luke Hughes, NJD
--second tier (3 through 9 on the list)--
3. David Jiricek, CBJ
4. Simon Nemec, NJD
--third tier (10-24 on the list)--
13. Pavel Mintyukov, ANA
14. Denton Mateychuk, CBJ
18. Olen Zellweger, ANA

Plus honorable mentions not in the top 50 prospects in no particular order: NJD (Seamus Casey), CBJ (Corson Ceulemans and Stanislav Svozil), ANA (Jackson LaCombe, Tristan Luneau, Henry Thrun)

NJ's system has by far the best top two of these three teams plus an honorable mention who will certainly be in the pre-draft update to this top 50 list, so I'd say it's top heavy but still the best by virtue of the quality of that heavy top. Columbus has two in the top 15 and two honorable mentions plus they have Boqvist already in the NHL at age 22; the most balanced of these three with one very high end, one middle, and two others. Anaheim has two in the top 20 but none in the top 10 plus three honorable mentions; they don't have any top-tier but more depth. (I should also mention Detroit here who, in addition to Moritz Seider who's only 22 and is probably the best of any non-Hughes player mentioned here, have from Wheeler's list: 5. Edvinsson and an honorable mention in William Wallinder.)
Apr. 18, 2023 at 9:33 p.m.
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Quoting: squashmaple
Going by Wheeler's Top 50 Prospect Rankings in the Athletic, posted Feb 13th, the following defensemen between the three teams and their overall rankings:

--first tier (1 and 2 on the list)--
2. Luke Hughes, NJD
--second tier (3 through 9 on the list)--
3. David Jiricek, CBJ
4. Simon Nemec, NJD
--third tier (10-24 on the list)--
13. Pavel Mintyukov, ANA
14. Denton Mateychuk, CBJ
18. Olen Zellweger, ANA

Plus honorable mentions not in the top 50 prospects in no particular order: NJD (Seamus Casey), CBJ (Corson Ceulemans and Stanislav Svozil), ANA (Jackson LaCombe, Tristan Luneau, Henry Thrun)

NJ's system has by far the best top two of these three teams plus an honorable mention who will certainly be in the pre-draft update to this top 50 list, so I'd say it's top heavy but still the best by virtue of the quality of that heavy top. Columbus has two in the top 15 and two honorable mentions plus they have Boqvist already in the NHL at age 22; the most balanced of these three with one very high end, one middle, and two others. Anaheim has two in the top 20 but none in the top 10 plus three honorable mentions; they don't have any top-tier but more depth. (I should also mention Detroit here who, in addition to Moritz Seider who's only 22 and is probably the best of any non-Hughes player mentioned here, have from Wheeler's list: 5. Edvinsson and an honorable mention in William Wallinder.)


That's great, I was going off of my opinion as I like to think for myself. I don't think whatever wheeler tells me to think. Thanks for his input though.
 
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