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Team: 2023-24 Detroit Red Wings
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 19, 2023
Published: Apr. 19, 2023
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5$4,200,000
5$2,100,000
5$2,000,000
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2$2,500,000
4$4,750,000
1$2,500,000
1$7,000,000
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Jeannot, Tanner$4,200,000
2024 2nd round pick
Olivier, Mathieu$2,100,000
2024 3rd round pick
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PIT
  1. Fabbri, Robby
  2. Lindström, Gustav [RFA Rights]
  3. Zadina, Filip
  4. 2023 4th round pick (MIN)
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DET
  1. Marchessault, Jonathan
  2. 2023 3rd round pick (VGK)
VGK
  1. Raymond, Lucas
  2. 2023 7th round pick (DET)
3.
DET
  1. 2023 7th round pick (CHI)
CHI
  1. Chiarot, Ben
  2. 2023 2nd round pick (DET)
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2023
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23$83,500,000$75,558,472$0$1,840,000$7,941,528
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
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G
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$894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
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Apr. 19, 2023 at 10:23 p.m.
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they produce at the same rate but raymond is a decade younger and was a former 4th OA this is selling real low on him
Apr. 19, 2023 at 10:27 p.m.
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they produce at the same rate but raymond is a decade younger and was a former 4th OA this is selling real low on him


Ya I'm not a fan
Apr. 19, 2023 at 10:31 p.m.
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Ya I'm not a fan


you could probably swap him for a different player tho, and get your money's worth
Apr. 19, 2023 at 10:36 p.m.
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you could probably swap him for a different player tho, and get your money's worth


Marchessault is a good player and is friends with David Perron. Maybe just send a second round pick instead of a third
Apr. 19, 2023 at 10:36 p.m.
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Dumping Chariot costs more than a 2nd imo. That's 4 more years of paying premium for a so-so player. Hawks may ask for more or simply decline because there's no interest in him.
Apr. 19, 2023 at 10:38 p.m.
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Dumping Chariot costs more than a 2nd imo. That's 4 more years of paying premium for a so-so player. Hawks may ask for more or simply decline because there's no interest in him.


How much will it cost?
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Apr. 19, 2023 at 10:41 p.m.
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At least this time there is one interesting idea. Everything else seems par for the course.
Apr. 19, 2023 at 10:47 p.m.
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Marchessault is a good player and is friends with David Perron. Maybe just send a second round pick instead of a third


he might be a cap casualty this summer, I would not count on selling Raymond, thats all. Horvat and Konecny are cousins and they didnt reunite, Friends dont need to be on the same team
Apr. 19, 2023 at 10:54 p.m.
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How much will it cost?


Good question. Chariot can play both sides so that works in his (and Detroit's favor) but the Hawks are fairly stacked at defense moving forward. Vlasic and Phillips are near ready and should be on the roster next season. They already have Seth and Caleb Jones, Murphy, Tinordi, Mitchell (probably gone), Zaitsev, and Kaiser at the big league level. So the Hawks would have to trade one or two (maybe Murphy and C Jones) to make room. On top of that, KD has done a really good job weaponizing cap space so I can see him looking for a 1st in return.

I could see him counter with Dal '23 3rd for Chariot and Det '23 1st. Maybe he'd even throw in a low to mid level prospect. Because of cap space being such a hot commodity, KD has the ability to ask for the moon. Will he get it? Maybe.
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Apr. 19, 2023 at 11:02 p.m.
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Good question. Chariot can play both sides so that works in his (and Detroit's favor) but the Hawks are fairly stacked at defense moving forward. Vlasic and Phillips are near ready and should be on the roster next season. They already have Seth and Caleb Jones, Murphy, Tinordi, Mitchell (probably gone), Zaitsev, and Kaiser at the big league level. So the Hawks would have to trade one or two (maybe Murphy and C Jones) to make room. On top of that, KD has done a really good job weaponizing cap space so I can see him looking for a 1st in return.

I could see him counter with Dal '23 3rd for Chariot and Det '23 1st. Maybe he'd even throw in a low to mid level prospect. Because of cap space being such a hot commodity, KD has the ability to ask for the moon. Will he get it? Maybe.


No. This isn't a thing. Chiarot isn't getting "dumped" because of your own point. Cap space is a commodity and the Wings have more of it than Chicago. A team doesn't "dump" cap to a team with less lol

Secondly, aside from the fact that Chiarot isn't a hinderance financially, a top 10 pick? Yikes.
Apr. 19, 2023 at 11:17 p.m.
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I wouldn’t hate that, would probably require a bump up to second, but if VGK doesn’t make a serious run here I could see major changes happening. Owner has no patience and said a winner by year 6…
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Apr. 19, 2023 at 11:31 p.m.
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he might be a cap casualty this summer, I would not count on selling Raymond, thats all. Horvat and Konecny are cousins and they didnt reunite, Friends dont need to be on the same team


I'll save you time. This guy's trolling.
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I wouldn’t hate that, would probably require a bump up to second, but if VGK doesn’t make a serious run here I could see major changes happening. Owner has no patience and said a winner by year 6…


Also you don't even get a Raymond autograph for that.
Apr. 20, 2023 at 8:25 a.m.
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No. This isn't a thing. Chiarot isn't getting "dumped" because of your own point. Cap space is a commodity and the Wings have more of it than Chicago. A team doesn't "dump" cap to a team with less lol

Secondly, aside from the fact that Chiarot isn't a hinderance financially, a top 10 pick? Yikes.


Detroit DOES NOT have more cap space than CHI. Chiarot sucks already at 31 years old, has a cap hit just under $5M a year for 3 more years, not to mention, they are the most expensive years of his entire contract as far as actual salary. Dude is a pure cap dump and a 1st would be letting DET off easy.
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Apr. 20, 2023 at 8:35 a.m.
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Detroit DOES NOT have more cap space than CHI. Chiarot sucks already at 31 years old, has a cap hit just under $5M a year for 3 more years, not to mention, they are the most expensive years of his entire contract as far as actual salary. Dude is a pure cap dump and a 1st would be letting DET off easy.


Settle down there sparky. At the time of this post, yes Detroit has more. Once the season ends it changes.

Chiarot is overpaid yes. Detroit could scratch him for the next 3 years and his 4.75M cap hit wouldn’t hurt the team lol
Apr. 20, 2023 at 8:40 a.m.
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Settle down there sparky. At the time of this post, yes Detroit has more. Once the season ends it changes.

Chiarot is overpaid yes. Detroit could scratch him for the next 3 years and his 4.75M cap hit wouldn’t hurt the team lol


I think you are mistaking my being "matter of fact" as being "worked up about it". I was just telling you how you were wrong, is all.

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Apr. 20, 2023 at 9:42 a.m.
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I think you are mistaking my being "matter of fact" as being "worked up about it". I was just telling you how you were wrong, is all.

-Sparky


Sure thing, cheers!
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Apr. 20, 2023 at 9:52 a.m.
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No. This isn't a thing. Chiarot isn't getting "dumped" because of your own point. Cap space is a commodity and the Wings have more of it than Chicago. A team doesn't "dump" cap to a team with less lol

Secondly, aside from the fact that Chiarot isn't a hinderance financially, a top 10 pick? Yikes.


So the question was posed as to what it would take for the Hawks to take on Chariot. I gave a straightforward answer with supporting info. The Hawks don't need Chariot nor would they benefit from his presence on the blueline. For the Hawks to take on his cap (and actual salary) it would come at a hefty cost. If you guys can shoulder that for the foreseeable future, have at it. There are plenty of cap strapped teams desperate to move bad contacts. Trust me, as a Blackhawks fan we've seen it too many times being on the wrong end. Trading Teuvo Teräväinen to dump Bickell's contact is one that immediately comes to mind when it comes to lopsided trades to dump salary.
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Apr. 20, 2023 at 10:33 a.m.
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So the question was posed as to what it would take for the Hawks to take on Chariot. I gave a straightforward answer with supporting info. The Hawks don't need Chariot nor would they benefit from his presence on the blueline. For the Hawks to take on his cap (and actual salary) it would come at a hefty cost. If you guys can shoulder that for the foreseeable future, have at it. There are plenty of cap strapped teams desperate to move bad contacts. Trust me, as a Blackhawks fan we've seen it too many times being in the wrong end. Trading Teuvo Teräväinen to dump Bickell's contact is one that immediately comes to mind when it comes to lopsided trades to dump salary.


Ah okay so that is fair, you are simply looking at it from the “Chicago in order to take him would need the value to be this high for reasons… x, y, z”

Then yes that makes sense that you would want that return. You aren’t implying that Detroit needs to dump him, nor that value would be applied to all.

Very rational thought.
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Apr. 20, 2023 at 10:40 a.m.
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I think you are mistaking my being "matter of fact" as being "worked up about it". I was just telling you how you were wrong, is all.

-Sparky


Dear Sparky,

If you were speaking from the same context as JK74, that makes sense. I was viewing it from 32 teams and their perspective. You were viewing it from Chicago as one of the 32. By that notion, you are correct that it makes less than zero sense for a Chicago and because of this would increase the price.

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Apr. 20, 2023 at 4:01 p.m.
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Dear Sparky,

If you were speaking from the same context as JK74, that makes sense. I was viewing it from 32 teams and their perspective. You were viewing it from Chicago as one of the 32. By that notion, you are correct that it makes less than zero sense for a Chicago and because of this would increase the price.

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For sure. I am usually looking at it from CHI's point of view. I'm always open to the possibility that there could be other teams that would take certain "cap dump candidates" for less or actually find positive value in a given player. Also, since CHI's tear down began, I pretty much always assume that if someone is trying to trade a player to us with a big contract, then they need to get rid of their cap hit and think they are being slick or something. haha. Because, along the lines of what @JK47 said, there isn't much reason for CHI to acquire anyone that isn't a cap dump or is just included as part of a larger trade to make cap work. Unless, of course, they are a young possibly long term piece, but our GM doesn't seem interested in acquiring other teams prospects. For whatever reason, he seems to prefer draft picks, cap dumps, and taking his chances hoping to turn trash into gold. Which, so far, we found Lafferty (who had little to no value at the time of the trade and quickly turned into a fan favorite) and Dickinson (who was intended to be a cap dump and has impressed in his time with CHI). And his 2022 draft was pretty outstanding. So, I trust him for the time being with that strategy.
Apr. 20, 2023 at 5:41 p.m.
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For sure. I am usually looking at it from CHI's point of view. I'm always open to the possibility that there could be other teams that would take certain "cap dump candidates" for less or actually find positive value in a given player. Also, since CHI's tear down began, I pretty much always assume that if someone is trying to trade a player to us with a big contract, then they need to get rid of their cap hit and think they are being slick or something. haha. Because, along the lines of what JK47 said, there isn't much reason for CHI to acquire anyone that isn't a cap dump or is just included as part of a larger trade to make cap work. Unless, of course, they are a young possibly long term piece, but our GM doesn't seem interested in acquiring other teams prospects. For whatever reason, he seems to prefer draft picks, cap dumps, and taking his chances hoping to turn trash into gold. Which, so far, we found Lafferty (who had little to no value at the time of the trade and quickly turned into a fan favorite) and Dickinson (who was intended to be a cap dump and has impressed in his time with CHI). And his 2022 draft was pretty outstanding. So, I trust him for the time being with that strategy.


And that makes sense. Not only that, but I agree completely with your take on it.

I only meant to shut it down before it caught waves (Petry to Det) that the Wings are going to be forced or have interest in dealing Chiarot. Detroit is swimming in cap space, and if 4.75 x 3 is a team’s worst contract then they are in good shape.

On a different note, who are you hoping for assuming Chicago doesn’t win the lottery?
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Apr. 20, 2023 at 10:26 p.m.
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And that makes sense. Not only that, but I agree completely with your take on it.

I only meant to shut it down before it caught waves (Petry to Det) that the Wings are going to be forced or have interest in dealing Chiarot. Detroit is swimming in cap space, and if 4.75 x 3 is a team’s worst contract then they are in good shape.

On a different note, who are you hoping for assuming Chicago doesn’t win the lottery?


Man... There is a lot of talent in this draft. I've been super wrapped up in watching juniors, NCAA, European leagues, and KHL since CHI's rebuild started. Depends where we land, it's so tough to say. Do we take the widely accepted "best player available" or maybe do what some would consider a reach? Considering we can't draft any later than 5th, some of my favorites would be considered a reach. I like Yager, and Moore a lot. Then anyone from that USNTDP top line would be great, between Leonard, Smith, and Perrault. Brindley, Benson and Cristall are exciting. Of course Bedard, Fantilli or Michkov would be great. Outside of the geopolitical circumstances, Michkov is absolutely the second best prospect in the draft. I'm not as high on Carlsson or Barlow as most scouts seem to be. Also, I really don't think CHI should be looking at defensemen in the first round this year. Forwards with top 6 upside should be a priority.

Then the second round, quite a few 1st round caliber talents will still be available because of how deep the the 2023 draft is. Sawchyn, Dower Nilsson, Willander, Bonk, and possibly some others I've already named, could be there. Jarventie, and Barkey are exciting. Honzek could possibly slip.

Honestly, who knows whats gonna happen. But like I said before, I trust CHI's front office. They did a great job last year with a pretty limited time to prepare and an incomplete analytics/scouting department. So, this year should hopefully be even better. I expect them to make a big push for another 1st this year too.

Edit: Also, Sale won me over this morning in the U18 Men's World Cup.
 
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