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Barron and PLD madness continues

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Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 21, 2023
Published: Apr. 21, 2023
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Jets fans like the Barron boys. I like em too. This way they can get Barron in the PLD trade!
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Apr. 21, 2023 at 3:26 p.m.
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
I think you understand the gist of what I meant.


Look, I'm not naïve to the fact the WPG is not a top destination for players, but I think they need a bit more credit. We will always have a hard time attracting top free agents but a lot of the players that are drafted here want to stay (Connor, Ehlers, Scheifele, Hellebuyck etc). They enjoy playing in the Jets organization in a true hockey market. I realize that's not ALL players (Trouba & Copp) as example. I know what you're saying and it's partly true, but I'll always try and give WPG credit where it's due wink
Apr. 21, 2023 at 3:27 p.m.
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Are you daft?! Montreal is not moving Barron + 1st for PLD let alone adding Kidney, Roy and a 2nd just to include Pionk. We are not paying 2 1sts + a good prospect for someone we can wait 1 year to sign. Montreal is not without leverage here and Hughes and Chevy aren't going to be out to screw each other either, the package has to make sense for both sides not just the Jets. Montreal needs Barron more than they need to get PLD a year early.


You'd think maybe a few of these fanatics would understand the idea of leverage. The more lunacy I hear, the more I'm cheering for the offer sheet at 4.1M. Molson would never allow it as he's one of Buttman's boys but unbelievable how so many Jets fans dont realize that PLD aint getting a regular price on the market. The Jets market is a handicap yet they act like they are the Rangers org. This might one of the very few times the word is actually used appropriately. Delusional.
Apr. 21, 2023 at 3:28 p.m.
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If PLD, Scheifele and Hellebyuck are not extending long term this summer, they're most likely traded.


Right...I was just using them of examples of players who didn't "get out" as soon as they could. All signed long term inital contracts. I also agree they should be traded if they are not signing another long term extension.
Apr. 21, 2023 at 3:33 p.m.
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
You laughed at the original ACGM. Anyone with the slightest bit of perception can tell your idea of value. Most Habs fans laugh at this ACGM offer but with reason. Not sure why you laughed besides trolling.


I laughed because the value isnt there for the two best players in the whole trade. Maybe Barron has potential but thats all it is for right now
Apr. 21, 2023 at 3:33 p.m.
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If PLD, Scheifele and Hellebyuck are not extending long term this summer, they're most likely traded.


They already extended long term...other than Duby
Apr. 21, 2023 at 3:36 p.m.
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Quoting: Jetman
I laughed because the value isnt there for the two best players in the whole trade. Maybe Barron has potential but thats all it is for right now


Pionk was literally on the scrap heap in NYC. At least be intellectually honest. Barron has a ton more worth to the Habs and the NHL as a right shot young, cost controlled D. We saw over the Summer the prices from the market.

Barron would need something far better than Pionk. An actual piece for their future not temp replacement
Apr. 21, 2023 at 3:42 p.m.
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
Pionk was literally on the scrap heap in NYC. At least be intellectually honest. Barron has a ton more worth to the Habs and the NHL as a right shot young, cost controlled D. We saw over the Summer the prices from the market.

Barron would need something far better than Pionk. An actual piece for their future not temp replacement


Potential...Thats all Barron has. He didnt even make the team fully this year but thats why i have him as a trade chip for Dubois because he has decent potential
Apr. 21, 2023 at 5:34 p.m.
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Quoting: Campabee
I don't like the idea of swapping out the better, younger, cost controlled player who is already scoring at a similar pace. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me, we are rebuilding not going for a cup, keep the younger Barron and see if he can put up 30-40 points next year as a full-time NHL player and allow the young roster to continue to grow together.


The idea isn't about swapping Barron for Pionk, it's about locking up PLD. Barron for Pionk is a potential trade chip the habs could play to do so.
Apr. 21, 2023 at 5:49 p.m.
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Quoting: LIRIK
If that means MTL keep FLA 2023 1st, i would give Barron and MTL 2023 2nd for PLD.


Even then we're drafting a RHD with that pick (likely) and making it take longer to get someone into one of those roles.
We're better off keeping Barron and Winnipeg is better off drafting a RHD instead of asking for ours.

At this point I kind of hope we don't trade a 1st or our 2nd this year and limit ourselves to trading the Calgary pick. Though the 2nd could become available if Hrabal is off the board.
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Apr. 21, 2023 at 5:54 p.m.
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Quoting: ricochetii
Even then we're drafting a RHD with that pick (likely) and making it take longer to get someone into one of those roles.
We're better off keeping Barron and Winnipeg is better off drafting a RHD instead of asking for ours.

At this point I kind of hope we don't trade a 1st or our 2nd this year and limit ourselves to trading the Calgary pick. Though the 2nd could become available if Hrabal is off the board.


Yes. I pray they don't trade the Florida 1st. I dont want PLD at all this year!! This is what so many Jets fans cant clue in on. Some Habs fans actually dont gatekeep their own players but try to predict what will happen NOT hope! A lot of ACGMs are just Jets fans wishing upon a star. Thought processes like Ron Hextall this one time at band camp, Hextall traded such and such. Pure fantasy.
Apr. 21, 2023 at 9:38 p.m.
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Quoting: ricochetii
Even then we're drafting a RHD with that pick (likely) and making it take longer to get someone into one of those roles.
We're better off keeping Barron and Winnipeg is better off drafting a RHD instead of asking for ours.

At this point I kind of hope we don't trade a 1st or our 2nd this year and limit ourselves to trading the Calgary pick. Though the 2nd could become available if Hrabal is off the board.


I would draft Smith at 5 and one of his wingers (Leonard or Perreault) with the 17th. I don't think a good RHD will be available at 17.

MTL should trade for Bouchard next summer, Oilers won't be able to afford him. He's a legit 1RD.

Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
Yes. I pray they don't trade the Florida 1st. I dont want PLD at all this year!! This is what so many Jets fans cant clue in on. Some Habs fans actually dont gatekeep their own players but try to predict what will happen NOT hope! A lot of ACGMs are just Jets fans wishing upon a star. Thought processes like Ron Hextall this one time at band camp, Hextall traded such and such. Pure fantasy.


I'd be fine with MTL drafting 10-15 next season because they fought for a playoffs spot if they upgraded the team with players like Dubois and Bouchard.

Hellebyuck is UFA in 2024 and Saros in 2025. They could also be upgrades to make the team better. Develloping a goalie they draft this summer would take 4-5 years.
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Apr. 21, 2023 at 10:07 p.m.
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Quoting: Jetman
They already extended long term...other than Duby


They're only signed for one more year.
 
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