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Weaponizing cap space

Created by: Andy_Dick
Team: 2023-24 Montreal Canadiens
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 22, 2023
Published: Apr. 22, 2023
Salary Cap Mode: Basic
Free Agent Signings
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1$850,000
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
6$7,500,000
1$1,000,000
1$1,250,000
1$900,000
1$1,000,000
8$7,750,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
7$7,500,000
CREATEDYEARSCAP HIT
Benson, Zach
3$950,000
Trades
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MTL
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [RFA Rights]
  2. Vesalainen, Kristian [Reserve List]
WPG
  1. Dvorak, Christian
  2. Heineman, Emil
  3. 2023 1st round pick (FLA)
2.
MTL
  1. 2023 2nd round pick (PHI)
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (BUF)
3.
MTL
  1. Scandella, Marco
  2. 2023 1st round pick (NYR)
STL
  1. Edmundson, Joel ($1,750,000 retained)
4.
MTL
  1. Myers, Tyler
  2. 2024 4th round pick (NJD)
VAN
  1. Gallagher, Brendan
  2. 2024 2nd round pick (COL)
  3. 2024 2nd round pick (BUF)
5.
MTL
  1. Granlund, Mikael
  2. 2024 1st round pick (PIT)
PIT
  1. Myers, Tyler ($3,000,000 retained)
6.
VAN
  1. 2024 3rd round pick (MTL)
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They desperately want to dump Boeser full cap. Dont know why i have to explain the hard cap to some Canucks fans but ignorance is bliss i guess. They already are over the cap next season somehow. I understand i trade never enough for some of you but you really going to argue about getting an extra 4th round pick?!? Boeser is gone and makes too much money. Money you cant afford. the precedent with Bjorkstrand was already set
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2023
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2024
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23$83,500,000$84,414,999$1,170,000$4,810,000-$914,999
Left WingCentreRight Wing
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$7,500,000$7,500,000
LW, RW
UFA - 8
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$7,875,000$7,875,000
C
UFA - 7
$7,750,000$7,750,000
C
UFA - 8
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$1,250,000$1,250,000
LW, RW
RFA - 2
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$3,362,500$3,362,500
C, RW
RFA - 3
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$6,650,000$6,650,000
RW
UFA - 2
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$950,000$950,000 (Performance Bonus$3,500,000$4M)
RW, LW
RFA - 2
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$885,000$885,000
C
RFA - 4
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$5,500,000$5,500,000
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UFA - 4
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$897,500$897,500 (Performance Bonus$557,500$558K)
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RFA - 2
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$1,700,000$1,700,000
C
UFA - 2
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$835,000$835,000 (Performance Bonus$57,500$58K)
LW, RW
RFA - 3
Left DefenseRight DefenseGoaltender
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$4,875,000$4,875,000
LD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
$7,500,000$7,500,000
LD
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
G
UFA - 1
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$863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$420,000$420K)
LD/RD
RFA - 2
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$925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$275,000$275K)
RD
RFA - 1
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$890,000$890,000
G
RFA - 2
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$828,333$828,333
LD/RD
RFA - 1
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$3,500,000$3,500,000
RD
UFA - 2
ScratchesInjured Reserve (IR)Long Term IR (LTIR)
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$766,667$766,667
RD
UFA - 2
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$10,500,000$10,500,000
G
NMC
UFA - 3
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
LW, RW
UFA - 2
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$1,000,000$1,000,000
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Apr. 22, 2023 at 1:18 p.m.
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Can’t see either team accepting
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Apr. 22, 2023 at 1:26 p.m.
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Can't see buffalo having any interest, especially at that price
Apr. 22, 2023 at 1:27 p.m.
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Can't see buffalo having any interest, especially at that price


Then who? Same goalie tandem that sunk them? Cant rely on Levy by himself. Every Sabres pundit in the know says they are going after a goalie. You want Tristan Jarry?

Habs wont jettison Allen for anything less than they paid and Harris a top4 puck mover which the Sabres desperately need , their depth with injury was tested all year. Mtl has too many LHD puck movers. This is as low of a price as you'll get for these low cost assets.
Apr. 22, 2023 at 1:27 p.m.
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See that you’ve added a Canucks trade now, but the Canucks pass easily. We would rather just take picks for Boeser, or if they don’t get what they want for him they can move Garland or Beauvillier. We have no use for Gurianov, as we already have too many wingers
Apr. 22, 2023 at 1:31 p.m.
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I'd do that deal just for Harris.

Why would the habs move harris?
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Apr. 22, 2023 at 1:37 p.m.
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
Then who? Same goalie tandem that sunk them? Cant rely on Levy by himself. Every Sabres pundit in the know says they are going after a goalie. You want Tristan Jarry?

Habs wont jettison Allen for anything less than they paid and Harris a top4 puck mover which the Sabres desperately need , their depth with injury was tested all year. Mtl has too many LHD puck movers. This is as low of a price as you'll get for these low cost assets.


We need left handed puck movers? We have 2 first overall picks to move the puck, both lefties. And did you say low cost? Allen had an .891 save percentage, goalies rarely if ever get firsts, so for a second, you should be able to get something decent. Plus the Sabres may still end up signing ryan johnson, although I hope they don't, We need defensive d, we have puck movers.
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Apr. 22, 2023 at 1:37 p.m.
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I'd do that deal just for Harris.

Why would the habs move harris?


Thank you. I cant believe the other guy discussed an asset other than the 1.4M aav asset. He is the bigger price than Allen. Jordan isan obvious solution that beats anything on the Sabres not name Dahlin, Power, Samu

Log jam at LHD makes moving someone a priority. Discussion about the Kings and Bergevin as Harris is Bergie guy. Maybe for Spence.
Apr. 22, 2023 at 1:38 p.m.
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We need left handed puck movers? We have 2 first overall picks to move the puck, both lefties. And did you say low cost? Allen had an .891 save percentage, goalies rarely if ever get firsts, so for a second, you should be able to get something decent. Plus the Sabres may still end up signing ryan johnson, although I hope they don't, We need defensive d, we have puck movers.


lmao. Your defense allowed a record 30 goals in 5 home games in 1 stretch beating the previous high from expansion. Stop being a homer. The sabres defense is putrid and Harris has been playing the right and left. He make the Sabres immediately competent. And goalies stats are all over the map, Allen is consistently healthy and has had great seasons in the past in a limited role including the cup winning season at over .930 save percentage but sure go for Tristan Jarry and overpay for an often injured keeper.
Apr. 22, 2023 at 1:40 p.m.
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
Thank you. I cant believe the other guy discussed an asset other than the 1.4M aav asset. He is the bigger price than Allen. Jordan isan obvious solution that beats anything on the Sabres not name Dahlin, Power, Samu

Log jam at LHD makes moving someone a priority. Discussion about the Kings and Bergevin as Harris is Bergie guy. Maybe for Spence.


I guess since harris is from the previous regime he's the one most likely to go. Idk, Id keep him if i were mtl. I like his game. I dont mind another lefty since I think Dahlin can play regularly on the right and samuelsson can play on the right next to power.
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Apr. 22, 2023 at 1:42 p.m.
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yeah there will be better offer for boeser. not great offers, but better than this.
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Apr. 22, 2023 at 1:45 p.m.
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yeah there will be better offer for boeser. not great offers, but better than this.


Doubtful cap aint going up much. Canucks have no cap room and are heavily rumoured to be going after Gavrikov which will be 5M plus. They should be trading someone else but every pundit in the know like Drance and Shah all are saying Boeser is gone this Summer. I'm simply reacting to the noise not creating it.
Apr. 22, 2023 at 1:45 p.m.
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lmao. Your defense allowed a record 30 goals in 6 home games in 1 stretch beating the previous high from expansion. Stop being a homer. The sabres defense is putrid and Harris has been playing the right and left. He make the Sabres immediately competent. And goalies stats are all over the map, Allen is consistently healthy and has had great seasons in the past in a limited role including the cup winning season at over .930 save percentage but sure go for Tristan Jarry and overpay for an often injured keeper.


allen consistently healthy? he missed more games than jarry in the last 2 years what are you talking about.
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Apr. 22, 2023 at 1:47 p.m.
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Doubtful cap aint going up much. Canucks have no cap room and are heavily rumoured to be going after Gavrikov which will be 5M plus. They should be trading someone else but every pundit in the know like Drance and Shah all are saying Boeser is gone this Summer. I'm simply reacting to the noise not creating it.


oh i agree with you that boeser has a big chance of being traded? but i dobt believe he is a negatoive asset at all. if they trade him they will try to get either a player.more usefull than gurianov back or get rid.of the full cap hit for a second or at worst a third roud pick. just my opinion!
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Apr. 22, 2023 at 1:52 p.m.
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allen consistently healthy? he missed more games than jarry in the last 2 years what are you talking about.


As a starter on a tanking team that has tried to give him rest as much as possible, yes. Allen would have started a lot more games had they meant something like in Pittsburgh. Neither here nor there. Again Allen isnt the prize here. The Sabres need stability in nets. He can easily go for a 3rd round pick same price they paid. Jarry will go much higher.
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oh i agree with you that boeser has a big chance of being traded? but i dobt believe he is a negatoive asset at all. if they trade him they will try to get either a player.more usefull than gurianov back or get rid.of the full cap hit for a second or at worst a third roud pick. just my opinion!


cap space is the asset as has been said over and over. How many teams can fit Boeser's full 6.65M AAV and use him properly on two top lines? Ill wait. The only teams bidding will be a few one bottom feeders. Contenders dont have the salary space or role room in the top 6 when they are contenders.
Apr. 22, 2023 at 1:59 p.m.
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cap space is the asset as has been said over and over


time will tell!
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Apr. 22, 2023 at 2:12 p.m.
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
Then who? Same goalie tandem that sunk them? Cant rely on Levy by himself. Every Sabres pundit in the know says they are going after a goalie. You want Tristan Jarry?

Habs wont jettison Allen for anything less than they paid and Harris a top4 puck mover which the Sabres desperately need , their depth with injury was tested all year. Mtl has too many LHD puck movers. This is as low of a price as you'll get for these low cost assets.


Going after a good goalie? Yes. Going after Allen? No.

How many years did the habs rely on Carey Price as the solo goalie?

The last thing the sabres need is a lefty puck moving dman
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Apr. 22, 2023 at 2:15 p.m.
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
lmao. Your defense allowed a record 30 goals in 5 home games in 1 stretch beating the previous high from expansion. Stop being a homer. The sabres defense is putrid and Harris has been playing the right and left. He make the Sabres immediately competent. And goalies stats are all over the map, Allen is consistently healthy and has had great seasons in the past in a limited role including the cup winning season at over .930 save percentage but sure go for Tristan Jarry and overpay for an often injured keeper.


Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great
As a starter on a tanking team that has tried to give him rest as much as possible, yes. Allen would have started a lot more games had they meant something like in Pittsburgh. Neither here nor there. Again Allen isnt the prize here. The Sabres need stability in nets. He can easily go for a 3rd round pick same price they paid. Jarry will go much higher.


What is the obsession with Tristan Jarry. As if he is the only ufa goalie. I doubt he someone the Sabres consider. They will be looking for a 1b for 1- 3 years max that can play 30 to 45 games if levi falters. Their are plenty of options that fit that bill in the ufa free agent market
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Apr. 22, 2023 at 2:45 p.m.
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What is the obsession with Tristan Jarry. As if he is the only ufa goalie. I doubt he someone the Sabres consider. They will be looking for a 1b for 1- 3 years max that can play 30 to 45 games if levi falters. Their are plenty of options that fit that bill in the ufa free agent market


No there isnt plenty of options. Stop acting like every player wants to be in that miserable town and you are flush with number 1 options. There are maybe 5-6 legit number 1 tenders in the league. Its an extreme example for an extremely biased fan base that thinks Levi will lead them by himself without injury or letdowns in a long year.
Apr. 22, 2023 at 3:04 p.m.
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Going after a good goalie? Yes. Going after Allen? No. ...
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Can’t see either team accepting
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Can't see buffalo having any interest, especially at that price
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... Every Sabres pundit in the know says they are going after a goalie...LOL nearly every Pundit predicted the Sabres 20 pts out of the playoffs, what do they know?
Considering the following:
Sabres had two terrible stretches nov 4 to nov 21 and feb 28 to mar 21, 20 games where they got 6 pts
The top 4 Buffalo defensemen were 23, 22, 22 and 20 yo,
They had the youngest team in the NHL,
Levi and Luukkonen had a combined record of 22-13-4
Their top three defensemen are all left handed.
I do not think they will be TRADING FOR A GK OR A LHD.
Buffalo may have an interest with Barron, but not Harris nor Allen.
Apr. 22, 2023 at 3:05 p.m.
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See that you’ve added a Canucks trade now, but the Canucks pass easily. We would rather just take picks for Boeser, or if they don’t get what they want for him they can move Garland or Beauvillier. We have no use for Gurianov, as we already have too many wingers






Deal with it. You have too much salary as has been reported over and over. Dont be mad at me. Look at your management.
Apr. 22, 2023 at 3:21 p.m.
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Quoting: Koskinen_The_Great




Deal with it. You have too much salary as has been reported over and over. Dont be mad at me. Look at your management.


That is simply just not true lol. The Canucks can have a 23 man roster without trading any big contracts. Ignorance is bliss I guess
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Apr. 22, 2023 at 3:22 p.m.
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Doubtful cap aint going up much. Canucks have no cap room and are heavily rumoured to be going after Gavrikov which will be 5M plus. They should be trading someone else but every pundit in the know like Drance and Shah all are saying Boeser is gone this Summer. I'm simply reacting to the noise not creating it.


Name one time Drance or Shah has been correct for a huge move like this? Rick Dhaliwal is really the only trustworthy Canucks insider
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Apr. 22, 2023 at 3:23 p.m.
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No from Winnipeg. The prospect needs to be upgraded if the Jets are taking Dvorak as a bad contract.
Apr. 22, 2023 at 4:09 p.m.
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no from mtl they are not trading for more late picks with young assets on the team now... you are going the wrong way
 
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