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Created by: Wingsfannn
Team: 2023-24 Detroit Red Wings
Initial Creation Date: Apr. 23, 2023
Published: Apr. 23, 2023
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Description
Seen Matthew wood listed Center as well as wing so listed him as center and hope he can play that spot

Wings overpay klingberg. He takes the one year deal hoping again he can put up good numbers and get a bigger contract afterwards
Free Agent Signings
RFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$865,000
1$850,000
3$1,400,000
UFAYEARSCAP HIT
1$6,000,000
2$2,500,000
1$900,000
1$4,000,000
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Wood, Matthew
3$925,000
Moore, Oliver
3$925,000
But, Daniil
3$925,000
Trades
1.
DET
  1. Petersen, Cal
  2. Spence, Jordan
  3. 2023 2nd round pick (LAK)
  4. 2024 1st round pick (LAK)
Additional Details:
Kings get rid of peterson’s Cap hit and 11 mill total $ and can use the funds to extend villardi, and gavrikov,korpisalo if they choose to do so
LAK
  1. Sebrango, Donovan
  2. 2023 3rd round pick (DET)
Additional Details:
Wings try to speed up the rebuild process by adding picks. They’ll give Peterson a chance to backup husso if it fails they’ll simply bury him as the kings were doing. Wings can afford to do this with so many cheaper contracts in the foreseeable future
2.
DET
  1. Murray, Matt
  2. 2023 1st round pick (BOS)
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Leafs are desperate to get rid of Murray after it’s been clearly a failed experiment and leafs and desperate to save every penny with contracts coming up soon for matthews,nylander
TOR
    Yzerman is finally using his cap space and taking advantage of the likes of kasper,edvinsson etc.. on cheap contracts for the foreseeable future and can afford to make this move. The plan is to buyout murray as soon as this deal occurs and gives the wings another 1st in 2023
    3.
    DET
    1. 2025 3rd round pick (EDM)
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    Gives the oilers someone they can potentially rotate into the top 6 at a cheap cost
    EDM
    1. Kubalik, Dominik
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    With all the prospects coming soon kubalik won’t have a longterm future in detroit so stevie moves him now
    4.
    DET
    1. 2023 1st round pick (VAN)
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    Canucks don’t pick again till 75 so they make the move to regain they’re 2nd to fall back 7 spots and gain lindstrom ad well
    VAN
    1. Lindström, Gustav
    2. 2023 1st round pick (NYI)
    3. 2023 2nd round pick (VAN)
    5.
    DET
    1. 2023 1st round pick (NYR)
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    Blues don’t pick till 74 after the 1st and decide to add another 2nd to fall back . Also get the rights to mastrosimone who doesn’t appear to want to sign with the wings and can thus try to sign him
    STL
    1. Mastrosimone, Robert [Reserve List]
    2. 2023 1st round pick (BOS)
    3. 2023 2nd round pick (LAK)
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    $8,700,000$8,700,000
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    $925,000$925,000 (Performance Bonus$2,500,000$2M)
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    RFA - 1
    $4,000,000$4,000,000
    LW, RW
    UFA - 1
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    $918,333$918,333
    C
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    $4,750,000$4,750,000
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    UFA - 1
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    UFA - 4
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    $925,000$925,000
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    RFA - 1
    $2,500,000$2,500,000
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    UFA - 1
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    $1,400,000$1,400,000
    C
    RFA - 1
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    $1,100,000$1,100,000
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    RFA - 1
    $900,000$900,000
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    UFA - 2
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    $3,400,000$3,400,000
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    UFA - 3
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    $863,333$863,333 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
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    RFA - 1
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    $4,750,000$4,750,000
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    $3,000,000$3,000,000
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    $6,000,000$6,000,000
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    UFA - 1
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    $5,000,000$5,000,000
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    UFA - 2
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    $894,167$894,167 (Performance Bonus$850,000$850K)
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    $4,750,000$4,750,000
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    Apr. 24, 2023 at 7:29 a.m.
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    Quoting: tonyhzs
    Walman is a thing. He is top pair, late bloomer Rafalski/Giordano style. Edvinsson gets to be 1b to Seider. With Pelikka, Detroit would have the 2 ultra skaters in Walman and Pelikka with the two big skaters. All 4 two way players.


    Still need more from walman he’s 27 and his career high is 63 games . He had a nice season considering where he was at but I’m not writing him down as a sure thing to be a redwing in 5 years . Way too early to start comparing him to rafalski

    As for pelikka I like him but I think reinbacher atm is more a sure thing and would be more of a playoff type dman. If we can add another dman that can log 20+ mins a night with edvinsson and seider that would be huge. Anyways like I stated before as much as I think he’d be a good fit I think our #1 priority this draft is top line offense. We definitely need a 2nd right d but we can make a trade for one or sign one down the road. We won’t win games if we continue not to score goals
    Apr. 24, 2023 at 7:30 a.m.
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    Quoting: JaredOfLondon
    It's amazing how people keep saying the leafs will never move these contracts without paying a kings ransom and they need this cap space so so so bad that they'll be begging some team to take their 1sts and prospects to do it, yet the leafs keep moving the contracts for basically nothing.


    Ya it’s amazing
    Apr. 24, 2023 at 8:03 a.m.
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    Quoting: Wingsfannn
    Ya it’s amazing


    Yep, dubas is really good at getting out of bad contracts. Yzerman should take some notes for all the anchors hes signed
    Apr. 24, 2023 at 9:33 a.m.
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    Quoting: JaredOfLondon
    Yep, dubas is really good at getting out of bad contracts. Yzerman should take some notes for all the anchors hes signed


    🤣 I was being sarcastic ....1 bad contract ya he’s a legend 🤣

    Thanks but yzerman’s just fine
    Apr. 24, 2023 at 9:40 a.m.
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    Quoting: Wingsfannn
    🤣 I was being sarcastic ....1 bad contract ya he’s a legend 🤣

    Thanks but yzerman’s just fine


    Yeah, one bad contract, except for all the others.
    And i guess you would think hes only moved ine bad contract if you're fine with what the hell Yzerman's done in free agency
    Apr. 24, 2023 at 10:04 a.m.
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    Quoting: JaredOfLondon
    Yeah, one bad contract, except for all the others.
    And i guess you would think hes only moved ine bad contract if you're fine with what the hell Yzerman's done in free agency


    What others lmao

    He overpaid matthews and marner too soon causing cap problems earlier than needed. Traded Kadri at a great contract and then Signed tavares to 11per . Acquired McCann and exposed him to Seattle over a 3rd pairing dman holl . Wasn’t his fault but still ended up giving a 1st for free in the foligno deal

    After years and years of saying leafs needed to add playoff toughness he finally listened and did something this year

    Guessing you haven’t seen what yzerman did in tampa? How he’s done with our draft thus far? Why the **** should yzerman go out in free agency and sign a bunch of player with where the team currently is? Would be beyond moronic . I have no problem with what he’s done and I’d take yzerman as gm over Dubas any time and I’m sure most fans outside Detroit and Toronto would say the same

    But thanks anyways
    Apr. 24, 2023 at 10:21 a.m.
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    Quoting: Wingsfannn
    What others lmao

    He overpaid matthews and marner too soon causing cap problems earlier than needed. Traded Kadri at a great contract and then Signed tavares to 11per . Acquired McCann and exposed him to Seattle over a 3rd pairing dman holl . Wasn’t his fault but still ended up giving a 1st for free in the foligno deal

    After years and years of saying leafs needed to add playoff toughness he finally listened and did something this year

    Guessing you haven’t seen what yzerman did in tampa? How he’s done with our draft thus far? Why the **** should yzerman go out in free agency and sign a bunch of player with where the team currently is? Would be beyond moronic . I have no problem with what he’s done and I’d take yzerman as gm over Dubas any time and I’m sure most fans outside Detroit and Toronto would say the same

    But thanks anyways


    Matthews is fairly paid and marner is less over paid than husso
    Kadri was traded because he couldnt keep his head straight and hurt the team when it mattered most, then he did it again after the trade.
    McCann would have been nice, but the leafs needed top 4 defenders more, and holl is one and the prices for getting anothet top 4 rhd were insane then.

    But sure, the guy who gave ben chariot almost 5 million dollars a year is the good gm. Lol
    Apr. 24, 2023 at 10:24 a.m.
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    Quoting: Wingsfannn
    What others lmao

    He overpaid matthews and marner too soon causing cap problems earlier than needed. Traded Kadri at a great contract and then Signed tavares to 11per . Acquired McCann and exposed him to Seattle over a 3rd pairing dman holl . Wasn’t his fault but still ended up giving a 1st for free in the foligno deal

    After years and years of saying leafs needed to add playoff toughness he finally listened and did something this year

    Guessing you haven’t seen what yzerman did in tampa? How he’s done with our draft thus far? Why the **** should yzerman go out in free agency and sign a bunch of player with where the team currently is? Would be beyond moronic . I have no problem with what he’s done and I’d take yzerman as gm over Dubas any time and I’m sure most fans outside Detroit and Toronto would say the same

    But thanks anyways


    I also love the "when they needed cap space most!' Like you're really trying to pretend dubas knew the pandemic was coming and the cap wasn't about to rise massively over the next few years

    Oh, and giving yzerman credit for brisbois work is delightful
    Apr. 24, 2023 at 10:27 a.m.
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    Quoting: JaredOfLondon
    Matthews is fairly paid and marner is less over paid than husso
    Kadri was traded because he couldnt keep his head straight and hurt the team when it mattered most, then he did it again after the trade.
    McCann would have been nice, but the leafs needed top 4 defenders more, and holl is one and the prices for getting anothet top 4 rhd were insane then.

    But sure, the guy who gave ben chariot almost 5 million dollars a year is the good gm. Lol



    Nope, matthews and marner got paid way too soon. Everyone said it at the time. Who cares about husso lmao we’re not a playoff contending team , i’d Have waited till free agency and paid him an extra 500k if it meant keeping the 3rd.

    Sure but looking back it was a mistake to deal kadri who was only making 4 million and replacing him with an 11 million player. Holl is and was a 3rd pairing dman. Was a mistake especially since McCann got like 30 pts in 40 games the previous season so you could see there was something more there

    Yes the guy who helped build the tampa bay lightning is the better gm. Kyle Dubas has done literally **** all lmao

    Nice try though
    Apr. 24, 2023 at 10:28 a.m.
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    Quoting: JaredOfLondon
    I also love the "when they needed cap space most!' Like you're really trying to pretend dubas knew the pandemic was coming and the cap wasn't about to rise massively over the next few years

    Oh, and giving yzerman credit for brisbois work is delightful



    Bahahahahaahajaajahahahahaahahaa

    Giving yzerman credit for brisebois’s work ..... bahahahaahahahahahahaahaha

    Everyone who’s not lost it knows yzerman built the lighting ... brisebois 😂
    Apr. 24, 2023 at 10:30 a.m.
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    Quoting: Wingsfannn
    Bahahahahaahajaajahahahahaahahaa

    Giving yzerman credit for brisebois’s work ..... bahahahaahahahahahahaahaha

    Everyone who’s not lost it knows yzerman built the lighting ... brisebois 😂


    Everyone who is a wings fan sure says it, i wonder why
    Apr. 24, 2023 at 10:34 a.m.
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    Quoting: Wingsfannn
    Nope, matthews and marner got paid way too soon. Everyone said it at the time. Who cares about husso lmao we’re not a playoff contending team , i’d Have waited till free agency and paid him an extra 500k if it meant keeping the 3rd.

    Sure but looking back it was a mistake to deal kadri who was only making 4 million and replacing him with an 11 million player. Holl is and was a 3rd pairing dman. Was a mistake especially since McCann got like 30 pts in 40 games the previous season so you could see there was something more there

    Yes the guy who helped build the tampa bay lightning is the better gm. Kyle Dubas has done literally **** all lmao

    Nice try though


    "Over paying a middling goalie doesn't matter, but paying superstars superstar money is bad" yeah, thats what basement teams fans keep telling me.
    And it's genuinely amusing how you keep calling holl a 3rd pairing defender despite him putting up 2nd pair numbers on the 2nd pair of one of the leagues best teams that also has some of the leagues best defensive numbers, but hey, we can't all pay ben chariot 2.5x as much to be 1/100th as good.
    Yzerman is mr coattails, and the mess he's made in detroit is pretty evident
    Apr. 24, 2023 at 10:37 a.m.
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    Quoting: JaredOfLondon
    Everyone who is a wings fan sure says it, i wonder why


    Your a fool 🤣 lightning win nothing without yzerman
    Apr. 24, 2023 at 10:41 a.m.
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    Quoting: JaredOfLondon
    "Over paying a middling goalie doesn't matter, but paying superstars superstar money is bad" yeah, thats what basement teams fans keep telling me.
    And it's genuinely amusing how you keep calling holl a 3rd pairing defender despite him putting up 2nd pair numbers on the 2nd pair of one of the leagues best teams that also has some of the leagues best defensive numbers, but hey, we can't all pay ben chariot 2.5x as much to be 1/100th as good.
    Yzerman is mr coattails, and the mess he's made in detroit is pretty evident


    Wtf does paying husso what we did hurt us? We’re well below the cap 😂 leafs have had to look for deals and sign a bunch of guys to 7-900k cause of those deals

    Holl is a 3rd pairing dman who’s currently slotted on the 2nd pair for the playoffs , how many times we seen 3rd line players play games on the first line doesn’t make them a top liner. Holl has been talked about being moved for years and it’s almost certain he won’t be back after this season

    Mess he’s made in detroit lmfao you do realize when he came here we were a mess already hahaha he’s drafted seider raymond edvinsson etc.., I’m not worried at all lmfao
    Apr. 24, 2023 at 10:45 a.m.
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    Quoting: Wingsfannn
    Your a fool 🤣 lightning win nothing without yzerman


    What ever helps you sleep better at night, bub
    Apr. 24, 2023 at 10:48 a.m.
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    Wtf does paying husso what we did hurt us? We’re well below the cap 😂 leafs have had to look for deals and sign a bunch of guys to 7-900k cause of those deals

    Holl is a 3rd pairing dman who’s currently slotted on the 2nd pair for the playoffs , how many times we seen 3rd line players play games on the first line doesn’t make them a top liner. Holl has been talked about being moved for years and it’s almost certain he won’t be back after this season

    Mess he’s made in detroit lmfao you do realize when he came here we were a mess already hahaha he’s drafted seider raymond edvinsson etc.., I’m not worried at all lmfao


    Signing bad contracts always matters, especially when you're bragging about how amazing the guy is who signed it.
    Holl has been playing top 4 mins for the leafs for years, regular season and playoffs and he's been good in them, so i dont know why hed 'go back' to playing on a pairing he hasnt played on since he was a rookie.

    And yeah,again, what ever helps you get over that garbage fire of a team
    Apr. 24, 2023 at 10:50 a.m.
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    Quoting: JaredOfLondon
    What ever helps you sleep better at night, bub


    🤣

    Sure
    Apr. 24, 2023 at 10:51 a.m.
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    Quoting: JaredOfLondon
    Signing bad contracts always matters, especially when you're bragging about how amazing the guy is who signed it.
    Holl has been playing top 4 mins for the leafs for years, regular season and playoffs and he's been good in them, so i dont know why hed 'go back' to playing on a pairing he hasnt played on since he was a rookie.

    And yeah,again, what ever helps you get over that garbage fire of a team


    Quoting: JaredOfLondon
    Signing bad contracts always matters, especially when you're bragging about how amazing the guy is who signed it.
    Holl has been playing top 4 mins for the leafs for years, regular season and playoffs and he's been good in them, so i dont know why hed 'go back' to playing on a pairing he hasnt played on since he was a rookie.

    And yeah,again, what ever helps you get over that garbage fire of a team


    Lmfao

    Guessing since your being this mental your absolutely a leafs fan

    Goodluck
    Apr. 24, 2023 at 10:55 a.m.
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    Quoting: Wingsfannn
    Lmfao

    Guessing since your being this mental your absolutely a leafs fan

    Goodluck


    You're very sensitive about your gm eh? You should probably get over that so you arnt throwing around insults at people simply pointing out his bad moves, it makes any point you might have invalid.
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    Apr. 24, 2023 at 10:57 a.m.
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    Update: Wings receive every 1st round pick this draft, next draft and the draft after that. Nobody show up on the Friday. Its now known as Delusional D-day
    Apr. 24, 2023 at 11:38 a.m.
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    Quoting: JaredOfLondon
    You're very sensitive about your gm eh? You should probably get over that so you arnt throwing around insults at people simply pointing out his bad moves, it makes any point you might have invalid.


    🤣 yes I’m very sensitive 🤣 Anything you say is invalid cause it’s nonsensical it’s doesnt bother me it’s just comical when you look at both gm’s body of work and actually think Dubas is superior 😆

    Thanks for the laughs
    Apr. 24, 2023 at 11:45 a.m.
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    Quoting: Wingsfannn
    🤣 yes I’m very sensitive 🤣 Anything you say is invalid cause it’s nonsensical it’s doesnt bother me it’s just comical when you look at both gm’s body of work and actually think Dubas is superior 😆

    Thanks for the laughs


    I dunno how to break it to you, but only people who are really mad online use emojis the way you do
    Apr. 24, 2023 at 11:49 a.m.
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    Quoting: JaredOfLondon
    I dunno how to break it to you, but only people who are really mad online use emojis the way you do


    Yes I’m fuming 😂

    Thanks for the laughs
    Apr. 24, 2023 at 11:50 a.m.
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    Yes I’m fuming 😂

    Thanks for the laughs


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